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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:20:36 (permalink)
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The nerd that I am must provide the answer (17).
 
Or a Double Quarter-Pounder combo meal.  Your choice.


 
60 isn't it? Burger (5) + fries (1), x drink (10), or do you have to do it another way round? I never know.




Good catch on the multiplication sign!  I missed it.  But, your answer is also incorrect.
 
Shakes are 10 each (10 + 10 + 10 = 30)
Burgers are 5 each (shake 10 + 5 + 5 = 20)
But fries are 2, not 1 (burger 5 + 2 + 2 = 9)
So burger plus fries times shake is (5 + 2 x 10), which looks at first like it would be 70 but, in math, the multiplication takes priority (unless there are parentheses), so it's 5 + (2 x 10) or 25.



 
2 fries=2. 
 
Last line has only one fries.
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:24:40 (permalink)
RE: Mathz
 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:29:47 (permalink)
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The nerd that I am must provide the answer (17).
 
Or a Double Quarter-Pounder combo meal.  Your choice.


 
60 isn't it? Burger (5) + fries (1), x drink (10), or do you have to do it another way round? I never know.




Good catch on the multiplication sign!  I missed it.  But, your answer is also incorrect.
 
Shakes are 10 each (10 + 10 + 10 = 30)
Burgers are 5 each (shake 10 + 5 + 5 = 20)
But fries are 2, not 1 (burger 5 + 2 + 2 = 9)
So burger plus fries times shake is (5 + 2 x 10), which looks at first like it would be 70 but, in math, the multiplication takes priority (unless there are parentheses), so it's 5 + (2 x 10) or 25.




3rd line has 4 fries, not 2, last line has 1 fries, as Paulo says.
 
So, if multiplication takes priority (why?), then the answer is 15.

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:40:21 (permalink)
Yeesh...
 
Shakes = 10 each
 
Burgers = 5 each
 
Fries = 1 each
 
1 Burger (5)
+ 1 Fries (1)
= 6
 
 
6 x 1 Shake (10)
= 60
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:41:08 (permalink)
I feel dirty now.
 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:42:31 (permalink)
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The nerd that I am must provide the answer (17).
 
Or a Double Quarter-Pounder combo meal.  Your choice.


 
60 isn't it? Burger (5) + fries (1), x drink (10), or do you have to do it another way round? I never know.




Good catch on the multiplication sign!  I missed it.  But, your answer is also incorrect.
 
Shakes are 10 each (10 + 10 + 10 = 30)
Burgers are 5 each (shake 10 + 5 + 5 = 20)
But fries are 2, not 1 (burger 5 + 2 + 2 = 9)
So burger plus fries times shake is (5 + 2 x 10), which looks at first like it would be 70 but, in math, the multiplication takes priority (unless there are parentheses), so it's 5 + (2 x 10) or 25.



 
2 fries=2. 
 
Last line has only one fries.




Um, no.  If a burger is 5, then 9 - 5 is 4.  So two fries = 4, therefore each box of fries = 2.

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:44:24 (permalink)
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The nerd that I am must provide the answer (17).
 
Or a Double Quarter-Pounder combo meal.  Your choice.


 
60 isn't it? Burger (5) + fries (1), x drink (10), or do you have to do it another way round? I never know.




Good catch on the multiplication sign!  I missed it.  But, your answer is also incorrect.
 
Shakes are 10 each (10 + 10 + 10 = 30)
Burgers are 5 each (shake 10 + 5 + 5 = 20)
But fries are 2, not 1 (burger 5 + 2 + 2 = 9)
So burger plus fries times shake is (5 + 2 x 10), which looks at first like it would be 70 but, in math, the multiplication takes priority (unless there are parentheses), so it's 5 + (2 x 10) or 25.



 
2 fries=2. 
 
Last line has only one fries.




Um, no.  If a burger is 5, then 9 - 5 is 4.  So two fries = 4, therefore each box of fries = 2.


 
 
Craig, look at the 3rd line again. There's FOUR fries.

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:46:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jamesg1213 2017/09/01 21:47:59
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The nerd that I am must provide the answer (17).
 
Or a Double Quarter-Pounder combo meal.  Your choice.


 
60 isn't it? Burger (5) + fries (1), x drink (10), or do you have to do it another way round? I never know.




Good catch on the multiplication sign!  I missed it.  But, your answer is also incorrect.
 
Shakes are 10 each (10 + 10 + 10 = 30)
Burgers are 5 each (shake 10 + 5 + 5 = 20)
But fries are 2, not 1 (burger 5 + 2 + 2 = 9)
So burger plus fries times shake is (5 + 2 x 10), which looks at first like it would be 70 but, in math, the multiplication takes priority (unless there are parentheses), so it's 5 + (2 x 10) or 25.



 
2 fries=2. 
 
Last line has only one fries.




Um, no.  If a burger is 5, then 9 - 5 is 4.  So two fries = 4, therefore each box of fries = 2.




I'd give it up if I were you. You're having a right ****ing nightmare with this.
 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:46:52 (permalink)
IIRC multiplication or any other modifiers need to be put in brackets with the numbers to be futz with if they are to be given first priority in the equation.
 
As in do the math in the brackets first then use the results to complete the larger equation.
 
/sucks at math
//should probably remedy that
///this equation is not a real ballbuster though
 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:48:33 (permalink)
I'm losing the will to live....can I have those fries?

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:50:34 (permalink)
Exactly.
 
Third line reads 5 + 2 + 2 = 9
 
I suppose that's supposed to be the trick of this. If you ignore that there are two sets of two fries in line three than the single fries in the last line will muck you up right sideways.
 
 
 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:51:57 (permalink)
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I'm losing the will to live....can I have those fries?




I'm hungry now........
 
I can't decide whether to have a pork pie or a macca d's.
 
Or a macca d's with fries.
 
 
Or 2 fries.
 
 
Or 2x10-4 fries.
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:57:35 (permalink)
I'll have to eat something, I can't go to bed while CraigB's wrong on the internet.

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:57:49 (permalink)
Heh, both of your posts weren't there when I created my last one, but...
 
You're right!  I only saw line three as two fries, not four.
 
So (finally), fries do = 1 and the final answer is 15.
 
*Sigh...*  I take a day off and my eyesight takes the day off with it! 

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 21:58:29 (permalink)
...and goodnight.

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:03:41 (permalink)
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...and goodnight.




Even though he's still wrong ?
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:09:02 (permalink)
urm... 15?
 
Am I mistaken that without brackets an equation is to be performed left to right?
 
So in this case
 
5 + 1 = 6
 
6 x 10 = 60
 
To get 15 you'd have to multiply fries and the shake FIRST then add the burger like so...
 
1 x 10 = 10
 
10 + 5 = 15
 
and what I think that would be written as (instead of what is portrayed) is...
 
5 + (1 x 10) = 15
 
Anyhoo... now I'm curious if I flip flopped some junk around since I was kid barely paying attention in math class.
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:11:15 (permalink)
It's 60.
 
(5 + 1) = 6
               6   x   10   =   60
 
 
 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:11:15 (permalink)
It's 60.
 
(5 + 1) = 6
               6   x   10   =   60
 
 
 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:12:19 (permalink)
I wuz posting while Beeps wuz posting. (It took like 2 minutes for my double post to show up)
 
 
IOW we rubbed up against each udder.
 
 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:17:03 (permalink)
I'm starting to recall some weird "order of operations" stuff that might be what's going on here.
 
As I said... I am now curious (and a little ticked off that I can't remember this type of thing... time for some math courses).
 
FRIGGEN MATHZ!!!!
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:18:11 (permalink)
So udder
Many amaze
Wow
 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:21:30 (permalink)
My eyesight may be poor today, but my math is correct.

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:25:57 (permalink)
The standard calculator that comes with Windows shows the incorrect answer, while the Scientific one (same app) is correct.  More info:
 
Different calculators follow different orders of operations. Many simple calculators without a stack implement chain input working left to right without any priority given to different operators, for example typing
 
        1 + 2 × 3 yields 9,
 
while more sophisticated calculators will use a more standard priority, for example typing
 
        1 + 2 × 3 yields 7.

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:30:01 (permalink)
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My eyesight may be poor today, but my math is correct.





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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:30:42 (permalink)
Whoomp... thar it is...
 
For example, in mathematics and most computer languages, multiplication is granted a higher precedence than addition, and it has been this way since the introduction of modern algebraic notation.[1][2] Thus, the expression 2 + 3 × 4 is interpreted to have the value 2 + (3 × 4) = 14, not (2 + 3) × 4 = 20.
 
craigb is right... it's 15.
 
Totes forgot about the OoO.
 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:34:35 (permalink)
It's still a double quarter-pounder combo.

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:41:37 (permalink)
Of course, Paulo probably noticed that the second box of fries in each part of line 3 is slightly higher indicating that it is fries raised to the fries power.  That makes fries equal to about 1.56 (1.56 ^ 1.56 = 2.00) which makes the final answer 20.6.
 
That must be what he saw.  Sharp that guy is I tell ya! 

 
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 22:44:47 (permalink)
Dammit, Jim!
 
We're musicians... not math talking guys!
 
serios tho... now i've got in my craw to fix this massive math gap in my brain goop
 
that ain't cool
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Re: Unappetizing food 2017/09/01 23:23:15 (permalink)
Can't help it.  Having been a programmer for over 46 years now order of operations is seared into my jelly-like brain.  Of course, my programs rarely compile clean on the first try, so there is that issue... 

 
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