azslow3
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 06:15:58
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Adq
So assuming you pay 4 months, then pay for a full year up front, then cancel your monthly membership, this will permanently unlock the latest version you own during your entire membership.
After "full year up front" there is nothing to cancel. If I start monthly subscription in January and someone else in June and we both cancel out subscriptions in July next year, according to the answer, I can not keep June version but other member, which has started to pay half a year later, can. That make no sense. +1 Cakewalk should clarify all that. The startup of membership was advertised with "you pay for what we have already developed during the last year (list) plus everything which comes in our mind during this year (partial list)". And I think everyone agree that was delivered and justified. But for the next year, the first statement is no longer valid (users have already paid for it). Leaving just "everything which comes during this year", and without any attached list that does not sound attracting.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 13:24:36
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Sort of confused since initially all the hub bub basically said the last version "owned" was the last update so long as it spanned or exceeded 12 months... Now it says if someone pays 16 months, they only get to month 12?
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 13:31:37
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mettelus
Sort of confused since initially all the hub bub basically said the last version "owned" was the last update so long as it spanned or exceeded 12 months... Now it says if someone pays 16 months, they only get to month 12?
It seems that it is said only in support's reply to me, so it could be mistake. But it is weird that it is not clarified.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 16:45:15
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The Rolling Updates page usually previews what will be in the next month's release. The last two months (Ipswitch and JP) have been major feature releases. I expect we won't see another major feature for at least a couple of months, as these things do take time to develop. Hence nothing posted under Rolling Updates since it could be a while before we actually see "the next big thing", which BTW I hope and expect to be an Arrange feature as much discussed here and in Feedback Loop.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 17:31:24
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I'm thinking around the 1st year renewal time....what is it....Jan 22nd 2016 (or so)...there will be a huge frenzy again for those that complain about the subscription, don't understand Cake's policy, and a flurry of threads that duplicated last years.
It seems this thread has started to warm things up in that arena.
Honestly, I'm ready to pay the next [upcoming] year and forget about payments for 12 months and continue to be very impressed with all the new updates that rolled out monthly. The value of the updates has well exceeded $149 imo, and I see that trend incredibly likely to continue. Lots of good suggestions for new features and I believe Cake has their ears open.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 17:34:14
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mixmkr
I'm thinking around the 1st year renewal time....what is it....Jan 22nd 2016 (or so)...there will be a huge frenzy again for those that complain about the subscription, don't understand Cake's policy, and a flurry of threads that duplicated last years.
It seems this thread has started to warm things up in that arena.
Honestly, I'm ready to pay the next [upcoming] year and forget about payments for 12 months and continue to be very impressed with all the new updates that rolled out monthly. The value of the updates has well exceeded $149 imo, and I see that trend incredibly likely to continue. Lots of good suggestions for new features and I believe Cake has their ears open.
Same here :) One thing I noticed looking at Cakewalk at steam is that they aren't doing the monthly payments over there anymore.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 18:24:50
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mixmkr
I'm thinking around the 1st year renewal time....what is it....Jan 22nd 2016 (or so)...there will be a huge frenzy again for those that complain about the subscription, don't understand Cake's policy, and a flurry of threads that duplicated last years.
It seems this thread has started to warm things up in that arena.
Honestly, I'm ready to pay the next [upcoming] year and forget about payments for 12 months and continue to be very impressed with all the new updates that rolled out monthly. The value of the updates has well exceeded $149 imo, and I see that trend incredibly likely to continue. Lots of good suggestions for new features and I believe Cake has their ears open.
IT'S NOT A SUBSCRIPTION!! Gee, I wonder why people stay confused? 
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 18:32:51
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mixmkr
I'm thinking around the 1st year renewal time....what is it....Jan 22nd 2016 (or so)...there will be a huge frenzy again for those that complain about the subscription, don't understand Cake's policy, and a flurry of threads that duplicated last years.
It seems this thread has started to warm things up in that arena.
Honestly, I'm ready to pay the next [upcoming] year and forget about payments for 12 months and continue to be very impressed with all the new updates that rolled out monthly. The value of the updates has well exceeded $149 imo, and I see that trend incredibly likely to continue. Lots of good suggestions for new features and I believe Cake has their ears open.
IT'S NOT A SUBSCRIPTION!!
Gee, I wonder why people stay confused?
It was not and it is not. But I think the point of this thread is preventing the membership is "converted" into it. If there will be no "this year you will get at least..." list before next up front payment, it will be "magazine subscription" (yes, not modern software "subscription") since that means "pay up front and get whatever we write next year"
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 19:06:09
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Anderton
I thought it was $14.99 a month for a Platinum update, which works out to a little less than $180 for the year. Or you can just pay $149 up front.
well if that's true, then I'd definitely have no problem continuing. I don't know where I got $30 from? Is that what it currently is for people who are updating?
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 19:10:41
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mixmkr
It seems this thread has started to warm things up in that arena.
I didn't mean to sound like that at all, I'm fine with there being a monthly payment option, I'm not complaining. Just trying to decide if it's still something I want to be doing now that I'll own Sonar.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 19:28:23
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I start reading some of these threads and get so confused :-)
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 20:39:42
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I am paying $30/mo for the upgrade from Professional... It will go down in Jan.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 20:43:59
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Adq
Bristol_Jonesey
I think your use of the word 'conspiracy' carries very negative undertones.
I'm very sorry, could not find suitable word...
Don't worry...in spite of the text-only limitations, I took at as humor.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/26 20:46:46
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The simplest option is at the end of the year, upgrade for another year. 
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 03:41:12
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Anderton
The simplest option is at the end of the year, upgrade for another year.
That is what I think everyone is going to do. But even there one question is (from my knowledge) not answered: WHEN should be do this? Let me explain. From what I know, the Membership starts from the date of payment. If someone has the membership at this time, it is no longer counted, so it is not possible to extend the membership now for the next year. So, if done "too early" that short the previous up front period. There is no reason to do this (for usual customers 150/256 per day... but still). So, should it be 00:00 at the next day, one day, one week after? Which penalties can be if someone forgot/had no money/made a decision to wait X months with the next up front payment? Yes, all that make no big sense for most of us, but there should be clear answers on such questions.
post edited by azslow3 - 2015/10/27 03:51:19
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 06:47:38
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☄ Helpfulby Milton 2015/11/17 00:29:44
Maybe cakewalk are doing or have done this.
If I log in I want to see how many days left and the end date. Plus a renewal button.
Just before I renew I want to see the end date and number of days left I would have after my payment.
Confusion gone.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 08:35:50
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Doktor Avalanche
If I log in I want to see how many days left and the end date. I don't, 'cause I find it annoying.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 09:03:40
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Doktor Avalanche
Maybe cakewalk are doing or have done this.
If I log in I want to see how many days left and the end date. Plus a renewal button.
Just before I renew I want to see the end date and number of days left I would have after my payment.
Confusion gone.
I would like this as well. Not critical, but a nice feature to have
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 09:39:24
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Doktor Avalanche
If I log in I want to see how many days left and the end date.
I don't, 'cause I find it annoying.
Then don't navigate to the subscription page, which is what I'm talking about. It would be friggin nice though if you've only got two weeks left to have a notification as soon as you log in, as long as you could turn it off.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 09:52:58
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☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2015/10/27 10:03:46
IT'S NOT A SUBSCRIPTION!!
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 09:54:16
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BobF
IT'S NOT A SUBSCRIPTION!!
if it were a print magazine it would be
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 09:55:38
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Doktor Avalanche
Soundwise
Doktor Avalanche
If I log in I want to see how many days left and the end date.
I don't, 'cause I find it annoying.
Then don't navigate to the subscription page, which is what I'm talking about.
It would be friggin nice though if you've only got two weeks left to have a notification as soon as you log in, as long as you could turn it off.
i'd be surprised if they don't notify subs of approaching renewal - sales should be sacked if they don't!
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 09:59:00
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pwalpwal
i'd be surprised if they don't notify subs of approaching renewal - sales should be sacked if they don't!
You trust email? Okeydokey...
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 10:01:59
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Doktor Avalanche
pwalpwal
i'd be surprised if they don't notify subs of approaching renewal - sales should be sacked if they don't!
You trust email? Okeydokey...
what a strange question - i trust email as much as the normal postal service, and i think its the only contact info they have for me - everyone else seems to manage ok, why shouldn't cakewalk? why wouldn't they send out expiry/renewal reminders?
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 10:12:39
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BobF
IT'S NOT A SUBSCRIPTION!!
if it were a print magazine it would be
You're right...but thanks to Adobe et al, there's an actual definition for "subscription software."
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 10:26:59
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pwalpwal
Doktor Avalanche
pwalpwal
i'd be surprised if they don't notify subs of approaching renewal - sales should be sacked if they don't!
You trust email? Okeydokey...
what a strange question - i trust email as much as the normal postal service, and i think its the only contact info they have for me - everyone else seems to manage ok, why shouldn't cakewalk? why wouldn't they send out expiry/renewal reminders?
Okay then. Don't forget to sign up to the newsletter as well!! ;) That service has aways been 100% perfect...
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/10/27 10:38:39
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 10:52:37
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I would personally love if they did a complete overhaul of MIDI editing that destroys the competition. Everyone mentions how Cubase is the current lead in that area.
I'd also like to see an update to video support for audio editing in film.
Going to laugh when January comes and they surprise everyone with Mac support and finally become the industry standard DAW. ;)
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 11:04:42
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TerraSin
I would personally love if they did a complete overhaul of MIDI editing that destroys the competition. Everyone mentions how Cubase is the current lead in that area.
I'd also like to see an update to video support for audio editing in film.
Going to laugh when January comes and they surprise everyone with Mac support and finally become the industry standard DAW. ;)
I don't know about Cubase, but IMO, having the P5 SS/MIDI editor section ripped out of P5 and set up as an optional MIDI editor for Sonar would be great.
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 11:29:37
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Doktor Avalanche
pwalpwal
Doktor Avalanche
pwalpwal
i'd be surprised if they don't notify subs of approaching renewal - sales should be sacked if they don't!
You trust email? Okeydokey...
what a strange question - i trust email as much as the normal postal service, and i think its the only contact info they have for me - everyone else seems to manage ok, why shouldn't cakewalk? why wouldn't they send out expiry/renewal reminders?
Okay then. Don't forget to sign up to the newsletter as well!! ;) That service has aways been 100% perfect...
did you forget the "/s" at the end there? cakewalk has a limited-time current userbase - it would be a schoolboy error not to prompt those users to renew their "not a" subscription... this is a separate system than the newsletter, especially now it's handled by "not so" cleverbridge... maybe paypal (one of the "not a" subscription payment options) has the possibility to notify when a recurring payment is about to end? anything useful to add? maybe i should try deleting my aud.ini, or whatever you're pimping these days?
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Re: Upcoming features/next year's planned features
2015/10/27 11:30:19
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Anderton
pwalpwal
BobF
IT'S NOT A SUBSCRIPTION!!
if it were a print magazine it would be
You're right...but thanks to Adobe et al, there's an actual definition for "subscription software."
such a shame to let commerce dictate the evolution of language!
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