ok, so i've installed the latest, after uninstalling the previous version. definitely works without clicks and pops... but still no bones on the latency or mix-down issues.

PLEASE resolve this, whomever out there in the world resolves such things!

and, i still cannot get the SPDIF setup working correctly with the 0404, so if anyone can help with that, it would be much appreciated.

Could someone answer me this question on the TI? If I sell my Virus C and buy a Virus TI, will the TI be able to "read" the MIDI dumps from Sonar that I made with the Virus C. Is it backwards compatible like that? I would hate to lose the sounds on previous projects if I sell my Virus C.

how much i am nudging each time...

18ms

Thanks for the answer, Cryophonic. I'll probably get one when/if this issue gets resolved.

I'm re-opening this thread from about a year ago, because - despite being on Sonar 7 and the latest Virus plugin (2.7.1.0 & beta 5) - I have the problem of not being able to use any other VST synths at the same time as the Virus plugin because the latter adds huge latency to any other soft synth loaded at the same time.

I've written to both Access & Cakewalk about this, but as I haven't found any reports of this since about a year ago, has everyone here who experienced the problem, fixed it ?? I only have this problem in Sonar (which is becoming a familiar tale ...).

That is the version I am using .... but the problem, I believe, is with Sonar rather than the Virus as I don't have this latency issue with Ableton Live.

Apart from the crashing & freezing do you have the latency issue as well ?

ORIGINAL: rjay

I'm re-opening this thread from about a year ago, because - despite being on Sonar 7 and the latest Virus plugin (2.7.1.0 & beta 5) - I have the problem of not being able to use any other VST synths at the same time as the Virus plugin because the latter adds huge latency to any other soft synth loaded at the same time.

I've written to both Access & Cakewalk about this, but as I haven't found any reports of this since about a year ago, has everyone here who experienced the problem, fixed it ?? I only have this problem in Sonar (which is becoming a familiar tale ...).

I installed the 2.7 beta OS yesterday, but only spent about a half hour with it. However, I did not experience any crashes, freezes, pops/crackles, etc. even while running other synths alongside my TI. I used the 2.5OS for a long time without any problems, so if I do experience any of the problems you've mentioned, I'll simply revert back to that OS until a stable official OS is released - you may want to consider doing the same thing.

Are you using the Virus as your soundcard? I'm not, which may explain why I'm not experiencing the issues you're getting (assuming that you are using it as a soundcard).

Also, it would help if you post a step-by-step detailed example of what you are doing that causes the problems, so others can try to replicate it. Also, tell us more about your setup.

As far as this being a Sonar-only issue, that's unlikely the case, but it's more likely because Access has a history of treating Cakewalk as an afterthought when it comes to the TI/Virus Control. The European DAWs (esp. Cubase and Live) seem to be Access' priority. And, let's face it - while I love my Virus, it's certainly not the most stable, problem-free piece of hardware on the market - just go check the Unofficial Access forums or Infekted.org and you'll see complaints from people using every DAW imaginable. Finally, and most importantly, you need to understand that this is a beta version of the TI OS developed by Access, so there are bound to be problems (and plenty more still to come). So, I wouldn't place all the blame on Cakewalk/Sonar. Hopefully, Access and Cakewalk will work together, as they did a year ago, to fix any compatibility issues (are you guys listening?).

Here's what I'm doing. My main soundcard is an RME MADI, so I'm not using the Virus as soundcard. My Sonar buffers are set to 1024 and in my RME ASIO panel, it's set to 128. With any VST synth loaded, I load in the Virus plugin and instantly all VST synths EXCEPT the Virus now have latency of about .25 -.5 seconds. Very occasionally, the latency will drift around &/or improve. Once whilst trying different buffer settings the latency went but when I did exactly the same thing again it did not go.

i resolved myself looooooooooooooooooooooooooong ago to not use the TI in anything but "stand alone" mode and man, am i glad i did.
im glad because i have had 0 issues, no satan saw, no clicks, pops, glitches (except in Atomizer!), or anything of the sort. *
when i do attempt to use the VSTi version, i find it only useable in DIRECT mode (per channel) and although neat, i find it unispiring and frustrating.
when i get home i'll put the beta on it and see if there are any changes of note to us sonar users.
i too am glad they are acknowledging sonar users.

now if only access will come through with a stand alone version of the patch editor/browser, i'll be set.

*i hate that when working in SEQ mode in sonar and quitting sonar, it resorts back to "single" mode.

On the advice of Cakewalk tech support I disabled "Enable Delay compensation" and as long as I have the LIVE button permanently enabled in the TI plugin, I seem to have got rid of the latency problem.

CW support also suggested configuring the TI plugin as a ".. tempo-based effect" in the Sonar Plugin manager rather than as a synth. It seems to be working OK as a synth for me: what does everyone else have it configured as ? And what practical difference does it make, in the way that Sonar handles it ?

Now all I need to do is fix the pitch drift problem when using Virus TI .....

ORIGINAL: cyberzip

By cryophonik
And, let's face it - while I love my Virus, it's certainly not the most stable, problem-free piece of hardware on the market - just go check the Unofficial Access forums or Infekted.org and you'll see complaints from people using every DAW imaginable.

Is this instability present when using the Virus TI in standalone mode? Because my Virus B has been rock-solid for years, and I'd be sad to hear if the TI is worse when used in the same way. (I might upgrade one day... ;) )

I don't think so, but I always use mine in TI mode. And, mine has also been rock solid for years (until this beta OS). The problems that I was referrring to are not ones that I have experienced myself - rather, just what I've observed by reading other peoples' experiences on those forums.

OMG!!!

mystp


I recently replaced my trusty Access Virus C with a Virus TI, which promises "total integration" with the host sequencer. In theory, this means that you should be able to control the Virus TI (manage patches, tweak individual sounds, get total setup recall etc) through USB with the supplied Virus Control VST-plugin. However, my experiences with this plugin in Sonar have been less than stellar, as I'm encountering some pretty grave latency issues with it.

Now, it may or may not be my specific setup that's causing the problems - though a number of other Virus TI users are reporting latecy problems as well - but the reply I got from Access support really caught me by surprise:
Apparently, they can't help out, as Sonar isn't on their list of supported sequencers - something I was totally unaware of when I purchased the synth. Instead, they recommend that I use the Virus TI as a regular synth, without the sequencer integration. That gets rid of the latency problems, but this is hardly how I intended to use it when I bought it in the first place.


This is quite sad, as the Virus TI is a great-sounding synth and the total integration element seemed extremely promising. Perhaps it works for other Sonar users and hopefully I'll get it to work in my setup as well at some point, but things don't look to good right now.

So to any Sonar users considering to purchase the Virus TI: Sonar isn't officially supported by Access yet, so for the time being, you're out of luck if you encounter any latency issues with the Virus Control plugin in Sonar.

You can read more about this on the thread: http://virusti.com/forum/index.php?s=1f773f811f91a33bebba3988b8a42bbd&act=ST&f=10&t=390&st=0&#entry3111

(Oh, and if anyone have any suggestions on how to solve the latency issue I'm describing in the Virusti.com-thread, I'd love to hear from you!)

- Asbjoern