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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 09:16:52
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And the Eye of Sauron turns toward the CHB. I'm getting a tub of cheese popcorn. This should be good.
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 10:39:49
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( Jumping up and down) I won I won I won I woooooooon!!!
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 12:48:02
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To bad Pedro isn't around to tell us what we should do
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 12:49:42
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ohgrant To bad Pedro isn't around to tell us what we should do Would he tell us to be more like these guys?
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 12:57:30
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bapu ohgrant To bad Pedro isn't around to tell us what we should do Would he tell us to be more like these guys? Nope..these guys..
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 17:12:24
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Mooch4056 (Jumping up and down) I won I won I won I woooooooon!!! But did you fill out the form?
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 18:47:59
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yorolpal Well I tried to submit and no matter what I did it wouldn't except it. Does it have an automatic dimbulb detector. I'll try again but really, what a crock. I don't have a "youtube link" either. But I've got a YouLube link if they'd like to try that;-) Olpal, it was broken until this morning. I was trying to submit some of my stuff on there and I kept getting an error message. I mailed Willy and he confirmed that it was something that needed to be fixed on their end. It's working now if you decide to give it another try. As for the CHB, agreed that there are many other artists that are incredible...however, you guys have built a pretty awesome reputation for delivering the goods in many styles, have great musicians and have all been long time Sonar supporters. And of course, created the band due to hanging out here and used one of the forum names as the band name. I personally was happy to see you get a bit of recognition for your efforts. If you do decide to do something here, as always, I will look forward to listening to it and wish everyone the best of luck who enters the contest. :)
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 21:05:32
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I'm a little confused by the contest seeing how Willie mentioned the CHB. Is it for hobbyist or artist's trying to make a name for themselves and advance their career? Is it open to guys like me who just do this for fun with no intention of making money at it? Let me apologize in advance if I offend anyone with this, it's not meant to be anything personal, but I don't think Willie should have mentioned anyone by name and say they were looking at them upon the announcement of a contest where there are prizes involved. That said, good luck to you guys in the CHB if you do submit something. I'm considering entering an original song as well.
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 21:30:16
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And is that a V-100 for everyone in the band? Or just 1 V-100? That's fine if you're an actual group of musicians who get together to rehearse and record, but in an international collab like the CHB, who gets it? Or, like the communal 145X145 pixel leopard-print undershreddies, will it get passed around on a regular schedule?
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 21:37:59
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I think everyone in the band shares that sentiment Bub, no offense taken. A generous gift a V-Studio is but we would have trouble dividing it 6 ways. The whole video about Cakewalk and how it changed our music carrier is the deal breaker for me personally though. It just doesn't seem like it really about the music to me under those conditions. I'm just here for the music and friends. I'm not looking to get into advertising. Every man has his price though, a V-Studio is just not it. I will however give support to any CHB member or any other collab team that I've participated with if they want to enter. Good luck to all who enter. Do we get to vote?
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/02 22:02:14
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Bub I'm a little confused by the contest seeing how Willie mentioned the CHB. Is it for hobbyist or artist's trying to make a name for themselves and advance their career? Is it open to guys like me who just do this for fun with no intention of making money at it? Let me apologize in advance if I offend anyone with this, it's not meant to be anything personal, but I don't think Willie should have mentioned anyone by name and say they were looking at them upon the announcement of a contest where there are prizes involved. That said, good luck to you guys in the CHB if you do submit something. I'm considering entering an original song as well. I kidn of have a feeling I dont have a chance ,since something was already mentioned about a particular name,, but in fairness, some of the members were humble and deflecting the attention ...
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 00:02:45
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musicman100 Bub I'm a little confused by the contest seeing how Willie mentioned the CHB. Is it for hobbyist or artist's trying to make a name for themselves and advance their career? Is it open to guys like me who just do this for fun with no intention of making money at it? Let me apologize in advance if I offend anyone with this, it's not meant to be anything personal, but I don't think Willie should have mentioned anyone by name and say they were looking at them upon the announcement of a contest where there are prizes involved. That said, good luck to you guys in the CHB if you do submit something. I'm considering entering an original song as well. I kidn of have a feeling I dont have a chance ,since something was already mentioned about a particular name,, but in fairness, some of the members were humble and deflecting the attention ... Sure you have a chance musicman. He only gave the CHB a shout out hoping they'd get involved from the way I took it. On another note, I think that everyone should get involved with this if they have the time. I don't mind bragging about Sonar as long as they brag a bit about me if I were to win. Put it this way, I would have never heard of Cori Yarckin (who I think is a pretty good singer/songwriter) if she wasn't featured in a Sonar demo file as well as Unified Tribe, NOC and some others. I'm sure those bands made a few new fans from having that exposure. Any of us that enjoy sharing our music should jump at the chance and not look at what you feel the motives may be etc. I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do or how to think, but it's nice to get your music heard and if you can win something as well, it can be a cool situation. Donate the V-100, sell it, do whatever but by all means, you have a chance to share your music at virtually no cost to you other than to associate yourself with a product you use anyway and talk about on the forums. That's how I look at it and with all due respect, think a few people may have taken this to heart or a bit too out of context really. That said, I also totally respect anyone else's opinion/reason for not getting involved. Cakewalk needs us to keep the company alive, we use the product and hang out on this forum because of the product...might as well show them what we're capable of doing. If you win, you win, if you don't, you don't...but you never know who may get a hold of your material. The dudes at Cake know lots of people in the industry...what would it be for them to talk to someone in passing that may be looking for a singer or guitarist, drummer, song writer etc and they say "you know, this guy <insert name here> sent us some really good material that may interest you." You just never know....and you'll NEVER know if you don't submit something. I come here for the software and to help a few people out from time to time. I don't have many friends on here like the rest of you do so it's not the friendships that keep me coming back. It's the software and the element for me and of course I love to share anything music. Heck I'd love to see someone I kinda know on here win this and get some acclaim if possible. Music isn't and never will be "a competition" to me but it's sometimes nice to feel the challenge of things like this. :) Anyway, that's just my 0.2 on the subject. Best of luck to anyone that decides to give this a shot. :)
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 00:54:51
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Danny Danzi musicman100 Bub I'm a little confused by the contest seeing how Willie mentioned the CHB. Is it for hobbyist or artist's trying to make a name for themselves and advance their career? Is it open to guys like me who just do this for fun with no intention of making money at it? Let me apologize in advance if I offend anyone with this, it's not meant to be anything personal, but I don't think Willie should have mentioned anyone by name and say they were looking at them upon the announcement of a contest where there are prizes involved. That said, good luck to you guys in the CHB if you do submit something. I'm considering entering an original song as well. I kidn of have a feeling I dont have a chance ,since something was already mentioned about a particular name,, but in fairness, some of the members were humble and deflecting the attention ... Sure you have a chance musicman. He only gave the CHB a shout out hoping they'd get involved from the way I took it. On another note, I think that everyone should get involved with this if they have the time. I don't mind bragging about Sonar as long as they brag a bit about me if I were to win. Put it this way, I would have never heard of Cori Yarckin (who I think is a pretty good singer/songwriter) if she wasn't featured in a Sonar demo file as well as Unified Tribe, NOC and some others. I'm sure those bands made a few new fans from having that exposure. Any of us that enjoy sharing our music should jump at the chance and not look at what you feel the motives may be etc. I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do or how to think, but it's nice to get your music heard and if you can win something as well, it can be a cool situation. Donate the V-100, sell it, do whatever but by all means, you have a chance to share your music at virtually no cost to you other than to associate yourself with a product you use anyway and talk about on the forums. That's how I look at it and with all due respect, think a few people may have taken this to heart or a bit too out of context really. That said, I also totally respect anyone else's opinion/reason for not getting involved. Cakewalk needs us to keep the company alive, we use the product and hang out on this forum because of the product...might as well show them what we're capable of doing. If you win, you win, if you don't, you don't...but you never know who may get a hold of your material. The dudes at Cake know lots of people in the industry...what would it be for them to talk to someone in passing that may be looking for a singer or guitarist, drummer, song writer etc and they say "you know, this guy <insert name here> sent us some really good material that may interest you." You just never know....and you'll NEVER know if you don't submit something. I come here for the software and to help a few people out from time to time. I don't have many friends on here like the rest of you do so it's not the friendships that keep me coming back. It's the software and the element for me and of course I love to share anything music. Heck I'd love to see someone I kinda know on here win this and get some acclaim if possible. Music is and never will be "a competition" for me but it's sometimes nice to feel the challenge of things like this. :) Anyway, that's just my 0.2 on the subject. Best of luck to anyone that decides to give this a shot. :) Well said Danny. I iwsih the best to everyone who enters. I'll be excited to see who is featured.
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 02:24:24
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Wise words brother Danny. I certainly don't want to discourage anyone from entering. I do kind of think experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists. Not sure it's fair to gang up on our friends. In any case I'm just not ready for the whole video thing anyway..I'm learning but a video from me at this point would probably make 10ten's procedures look sane. To give analogy...picture Wille E Coyote drawing out and building elaborate traps to catch the roadrunner....and still failing. I do appreciate Cakewalks efforts, I've showed them that by paying for their 1's and 0's, that and my thanks is all I have to offer at this point beggar that I am..
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 03:38:20
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ohgrant Wise words brother Danny. I certainly don't want to discourage anyone from entering. I do kind of think experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists. Not sure it's fair to gang up on our friends. Thanks Grant and Ed too. I think that's where my little issue lies Grant, in what you mentioned above. Not really an issue with what you said, but I think this is what I find misleading on how some people *may* have taken to this. Why would anyone assume that the CHB, SMB, CBS or NBC would have an advantage? LOL! We don't know what the Bakers will be looking for really. I would assume someone that has a REALLY good sound that represents their products well...which any of our singular artists can do with ease, don't ya think? Heck, as a solo artists myself, I don't sweat going up against full bands on my own. As a matter of fact, I welcome it and would never say "ah, I probably lost because I'm a one man operation" know what I mean? My new DD band stuff is off the hook. I got the best players I've ever played with in my life right now and as confident as I am, I don't know if I'd win if I submitted that stuff. (which I'm not going to) Look at guys like bitflipper, Bob Oister, Marco, Tony Pruden, (to name a few) the list goes on and on. All as talented as some of the full bands I've heard blowing through here. Also, some full bands play well but don't really write good tunes. To ME that's important...to the Bakers, it may not be. So we don't know for sure to assume anything. So maybe the hit factor may come into play...maybe an instrumental tune, maybe some blues dudes, jazz, classical, or Randy B comes in and steals the show with his incredible orchestral work, who knows? I just found it a bit strange that anyone would assume anything with this whole thing especially Willy's mention of the CHB. It's like a few are reading way too much into it in my opinion. Again, I'm honestly not trying to be confrontational or make anyone think the way I do....I just would find it a bit sad if people didn't look at it for what it is/what it could be instead of what they THINK it could be or might be. :) Make sense at all?
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 04:03:49
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Just thinking out loud here: What if all the people that enter the contest put up $/€/Yap/whatever 10 and Cake will double that amount for a good cause? Edit: looking at you Willy
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 04:47:37
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I just found it a bit strange that anyone would assume anything with this whole thing especially Willy's mention of the CHB. It's like a few are reading way too much into it in my opinion. Again, I'm honestly not trying to be confrontational or make anyone think the way I do....I just would find it a bit sad if people didn't look at it for what it is/what it could be instead of what they THINK it could be or might be. :) Make sense at all? I get what you are saying completely Danny although if a potential entrant gets named in the build up to a comp by the organizers themselves of course it is going to invite sour grapes and negative comment. I'm not reading too much into it or going overboard with my views on it like you have suggested I just think it was daft naming a potential entrant in same line as the announcement. Period. It's only my view but music ain't for me a competitive sport and I'm not gonna pitch my stuff up against, for example, Bub or MM in some framework that suggests my stuff is any 'better' than theirs anytime soon, certainly not for that price... . I'd fully endorse the products I use however and all it would take is somebody to show an interest in what I do for me to start enthusing about it I don't need a carrot. And some of the names you've mentioned there Danny would make nice features for Cakewalk's marketing dept. and like me I'm sure it would take no more effort than somebody asking them if they'd like to be featured. There is an embarrasment of riches in the songs forum to choose from. No big deal or me coming from a stance where I've gotten too into it. I just don't do music comps, and aside from auditions and the like, I never have.
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 05:10:58
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Grant, I agree with Danny. I think Willie was just trying to get the CHB's attention. The rest of us just jumped on the band wagon and had fun exaggerating the whole thing. The same message appears to be on all of the other forums without mention of the CHB. I think Willie also knows that we don't take things too seriously down here so that he could inject some humor and grab everyone's attention at the same time. I'm not a musician per se, so I probably won't have anything to submit. I noodle around a bit, but most of my Sonar activity is remixing some old stuff that I recorded years ago. If I come up with an idea, I will enter it. It's just a very long shot. I hope that you won't be deterred from entering the contest just because you're doing the solo thing. Remember that, as a solo artist, you have complete control, where as a band composition will have had to make some compromises. I also expect that--if you were to ask--quite a few Coffee House dwellers would be happy to collaborate. CHB doesn't have a monopoly are here. I'd bet Bapu would play bass for you--as long as it's in Am. I believe it will come down to the quality of the entry. It doesn't really matter how you write and record your music as long as you're happy with the finished song--you'll have as good a chance as anyone else. Mike Oldfield created "Tubular Bells" as a soloist and he didn't have Sonar. Good luck, Jan
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 05:18:43
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I think Willie also knows that we don't take things too seriously down here so that he could inject some humor and grab everyone's attention at the same time. FWIW that's how I read it too. But it was bound to raise some eyebrows.
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 07:20:27
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Jonbouy I just found it a bit strange that anyone would assume anything with this whole thing especially Willy's mention of the CHB. It's like a few are reading way too much into it in my opinion. Again, I'm honestly not trying to be confrontational or make anyone think the way I do....I just would find it a bit sad if people didn't look at it for what it is/what it could be instead of what they THINK it could be or might be. :) Make sense at all?
I get what you are saying completely Danny although if a potential entrant gets named in the build up to a comp by the organizers themselves of course it is going to invite sour grapes and negative comment. I'm not reading too much into it or going overboard with my views on it like you have suggested I just think it was daft naming a potential entrant in same line as the announcement. Period. It's only my view but music ain't for me a competitive sport and I'm not gonna pitch my stuff up against, for example, Bub or MM in some framework that suggests my stuff is any 'better' than theirs anytime soon, certainly not for that price.... I'd fully endorse the products I use however and all it would take is somebody to show an interest in what I do for me to start enthusing about it I don't need a carrot. And some of the names you've mentioned there Danny would make nice features for Cakewalk's marketing dept. and like me I'm sure it would take no more effort than somebody asking them if they'd like to be featured. There is an embarrasment of riches in the songs forum to choose from. No big deal or me coming from a stance where I've gotten too into it. I just don't do music comps, and aside from auditions and the like, I never have. And I too get what you're saying completely as well, Jon. But the thing to remember is, it's only a competition if you allow it to be really. As much as I try, I can't stomach death metal with screaming, cookie monster vocalists. I love the music behind it most times, but man, I just can't handle coooookkkkieeeee growls through a tune. If something like that beat out everyone else, there's no loss to those that didn't win the prize....it's all about the exposure and sharing your music, brother. In our minds, quite a few of us will never love death metal...if a tune like that wins over the majority of people who are judging the material that's submitted, so be it, ya know? I honestly don't see it as a competition as much as I see it as a chance to share a part of yourself and maybe just get a little acclaim or exposure. I'm still lost on the "build-up" and "sour grapes" thing man...it's a different atmosphere in the coffee house....so why would it be so wrong to call upon a great band that also happens to share the Coffee House name that has been around for years? You seriously consider that "daft"? It to me was just a playful invitation. If the CHB doesn't take part, no one will be upset. If they do, I wouldn't think anyone would be really intimidated or scared off by that, do you? If so, they are in the wrong business. It's totally cool not to take part and have views on why you do or don't want to share your music. I just can't understand some of the things I've read on here and honestly feel that some of them appear to be giving ole Willy a hard time. If Willy wouldn't have included the CHB in the subject line, would it have made a difference? Would the band consider taking part? Do you really think there could be sour grapes over something like this? If anything, the people that commented on this in a slightly negative fashion have planted the seeds to where there could be some sour grapes over something that was just said in fun, and most of all, a respectful invitation in my opinion. Anyway...I'll shut up now because I don't wish to upset anyone, I really don't. I guess I just had a hard time understanding why there would be any conflict associated with this at all. Most people are all friends around here from what I read and see. If someone is going to get bent, sour, or place expectations on others that are not realistic due to a fun little situation that could gain exposure and a V-100, I'd seriously question whether or not these people were really people I'd call friends....but that's just me, and why I don't have many friends.
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 10:48:36
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I assure no sour grapes here, my intentions were never to give Willy a hard time. I'm sure he's just doing his job. I hold nothing against him for calling us out. The fact still remains. I still do not own any video equipment anymore and really wasn't planning on getting any, any time soon. That pretty much excludes me from participating. The simple economics for me is, if I wanted a V-Studio, instead of spending money to go out and buy a video camera for a chance to win a V-Studio. I would probably be better off just saving the money too buy one myself. As I stated earlier, I will however give my support to anyone in the band that wants to enter on our behalf. I do apologize to Willy if it seems I was giving him a hard time, I do love my Cakewalk from GT 2.0- X1 . I'm a pretty generous guy, if there is anything I can do for you that does not involve a video camera just ask. To be clear Danny, you are certainly a valued member of this band, if you think this is a worthy endeavor, you have my full support if you want to enter the CHB.
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 12:52:02
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Jonbouy I think Willie also knows that we don't take things too seriously down here so that he could inject some humor and grab everyone's attention at the same time. FWIW that's how I read it too. But it was bound to raise some eyebrows. Absolutely, it was just a wry comment based on the fact that's it's a sticky above the CH. If Willy had named anyone in the same sticky over at Songs, I could see that getting people's backs up - but he didn't.
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2011/06/03 18:18:47
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And there was me thinking that 'daft' was an asset in the Coffee House. ...looking at your Willy! (or Am I?)
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2011/06/03 18:36:08
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I just re-read the details. It would appear that they don't want a 'performance video' as I'd assumed: " In addition, we would like a small video (no longer than 3 minutes) which spotlights your success as an independent artist and how Cakewalk has played a role in your music career" I'm really not quite sure how to interpret that I'm not trying to be flippant here, in fact quite serious - yeah, we all use Cakewalk products, but how many of us are genuinely having " success as an independent artist" or a " music career"? For starters, how does one quantify/qualify " success"? Record sales? Pro gigs? Or a good review in our Songs forum? It's all relative I guess.
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 18:43:20
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I'm easy with it all. After all there are so many earth-shattering stories on the world news at the moment, like Simon Cowell's professional split with Cheryl Cole and Simon Cowell being accussed of rigging Britain's Got Talent, that frankly a good ol' music contest sounds like a bit of light relief against those matters of real import...
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 18:46:15
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For starters, how does one quantify/qualify "success"? Record sales? Pro gigs? Or a good review in our Songs forum? It's all relative I guess. I see success as being completely fulfilled in your art...
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 18:59:03
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Jonbouy For starters, how does one quantify/qualify "success"? Record sales? Pro gigs? Or a good review in our Songs forum? It's all relative I guess. I see success as being completely fulfilled in your art... But why would anyone want to fill in my "art"? Is that like those paint by numbers thingies?
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB
2011/06/03 19:04:50
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Hey Everyone, Sorry if I rubbed anyone the wrong way, my intention was solely to spark a fun dialog. RE: the YouTube thing, the video doesn't have to be a testimonial like some of our current artists are, it can be just a video of you/your group performing live, a music video anything really. The copy isn't clear about that and I'll look into getting it clarified. Is it open to guys like me who just do this for fun with no intention of making money at it? Absolutely I'd fully endorse the products I use however and all it would take is somebody to show an interest in what I do for me to start enthusing about it I don't need a carrot. That's awesome - and to others that feel this way enter away and if you win and don't want the VS-100 we'll donate it to a school music program or some other worthy music related charity that could benefit from it. The spirit of this was so that we could spend an entire month featuring independent (IOW - not signed to major labels, world-touring or billboard) musicians that use our products. The VS-100 give a-way is just an added bonus. OT - but since we're talking independent artists for anyone that didn't catch this Dan 'The Kaptain' Kaplan our graphics guy just had one of his tunes on The Deadliest Catch
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