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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/03 19:07:21 (permalink)
Thanks for the clarification Willy.

I speak for myself but I took no offence in the title of the thread.
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/03 19:09:58 (permalink)
 
Willy, can't you start throwing VS-700's around for post count.
 
You could feature a 3 minute decade video of Bapsi picking his nose and munching on a becan sarnie while posting endless drivel posts in the Coffee House 

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/03 21:06:21 (permalink)

Sorry if I rubbed anyone the wrong way, my intention was solely to spark a fun dialog.


Thanks Willy,

I saw it pretty much that way too (however it may appear to anyone else that I thought anything contrary to that).

I meant nothing that would give you a hard time by saying that I thought it was 'daft' mentioning a prospective entrant before the event, if you hadn't forseen the likelihood of a thread like this springing into existence in the first place. 

But if I was launching a 'daft' contest to be frank I don't think you have mastered the art in the same way as say a Mooch or a Bapu.  So no prize of a 'Tubby Custard' making machine for you on this occasion I'm afraid.

Actually looking back through the thread it's been pretty much a fun dialog all the way through, isn't it?

And for any other prospective entrants please remember I Am a worthy cause, so I urge everybody please enter this contest as I've explicitly talked myself out of taking part so your kind donation now is the only way I'm gonna get my hands on a free VS-100

Remember the more of you that enter the more likely I am to get hold of one.

I thank you all in advance, and may the best entrant win it. (for me)
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/03 23:47:42 (permalink)
 OK sorry if my grapes were sour. Danny and Jan are right. I guess I have a bad habit of looking through the deeds of others and need to work on taking things at face value. I sighed up as myself, CHB. I used an old live performance of my old band for the vid,.. boy oh boy will they be sorry they asked... I used the CHB website as the url and gave some history of my involvement. I hope that doesn't make me a hypocrite but peer pressure breaks me down every time. Does that make me a bad person? What about Bapu?
I'll try to work up some spirit...how's this   Go Cakewalk!!
post edited by ohgrant - 2011/06/03 23:58:58

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 05:54:57 (permalink)
ohgrant


I hope that doesn't make me a hypocrite but peer pressure breaks me down every time. Does that make me a bad person?




I was gonna say the same but I needed to see what other people said first before I could have an opinion...

And don't forget me brother G if you win.

btw I reckon this one has all the competition requirements for a Cakewalk forum contest, it has guitars AND cats, and shows you don't even need a video recorder to make a vid if you are creative enough.
 
http://www.rathergood.com/winners
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 06:53:30 (permalink)
 
I'd certainly consider entering (a Strammy original, a VeRy MeTaL cover, or as part of The CHB) if it weren't for the requirement of a video
 
I fully understand that you can import video into SONAR for scoring etc, but let's be honest, it's music software - some of us don't even own any video equipment
 
To me, the video component of the entry seems to a bit like having a photography competition but also asking the entrants to send in an oil painting showing them using their camera equipment.
 
Like X1, this competition, although conceived for all the right reasons, seems ill thought out, rushed and half-baked. Not least because the qualification for winning the V-Studio 100 is open to US residents only. Why? They sell them here in the UK, and all over the world I'd imagine.
 
"Anyone is free to enter although due to legal restrictions we can only make the V-Studio 100 prize available to customers in the U.S. (we apologize in advance for this restriction)."
 
Just for clarity, does this statement mean:
  1. I can enter from the UK, I can win the competition, but I can't have a V-S 100
  2. I can enter from the UK, I can win the competition, I can't have a V-S 100 but Cakewalk can still use my testimonials/endorsements etc for their own benefit
  3. I can enter from the UK and I can't win the competition
  4. I can enter from the UK and I can't win the competition but Cakewalk can still use my testimonials/endorsements for their own benefit
  5. I can't enter from the UK?
 Surely it must be one of these options?
 
In fact, if, as I'm assuming here, option #2 is correct, it would benefit Cakewalk financially to judge a non-US entrant as winner.
 
Or would the highest placed US runner-up get the prize?
 
Come on Cakewalk, please get the details correct - it sounds to me like this idea was dreamt up in two minutes and jotted down on the back of a cigarette package.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
      
 
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post edited by SteveStrummerUK - 2011/06/04 07:15:16

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 06:57:30 (permalink)
Double Post etc
 
Arrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................................
 
If I win, I'll donate the value of my prize FOR SOME NEW FORUM SOFTWARE
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 09:55:42 (permalink)
Jonbouy


ohgrant


I hope that doesn't make me a hypocrite but peer pressure breaks me down every time. Does that make me a bad person?




I was gonna say the same but I needed to see what other people said first before I could have an opinion...

And don't forget me brother G if you win.

btw I reckon this one has all the competition requirements for a Cakewalk forum contest, it has guitars AND cats, and shows you don't even need a video recorder to make a vid if you are creative enough.

http://www.rathergood.com/winners


Cool site brother I love that cat. I used you as a reference and didn't tell them it would cost them a V-Studio + Montana if they even look at my app.

 I'm a bit confused about that prize limitation brother Strummy, if you want me to pull out let me know. I've only been in 3 CHB tunes. Steve's rhythms are the very backbone of all the the CHB metal tunes.

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 10:00:47 (permalink)
it sounds to me like this idea was dreamt up in two minutes and jotted down on the back of a cigarette package.


Isn't that how the RAF's Spitfire came into being?

I've seen the film, I'm sure that's right....

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 11:40:49 (permalink)
ohgrant

I certainly don't want to discourage anyone from entering. I do kind of think experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists.
If anything I would think the single artist would be celebrated more. The guys who use X1 for tracking, mixing, mastering and do it all themselves rather than pay someone else to do the mastering stage.

That silly little song in my signature ... 100% me from start to finish using only samples included with X1, samples I created, free synth's off the web, and the only plug-in's used were ones that came with X1. Seems to me something like that would be more impressive than a collaboration of people who then send their mix out to be mastered by a professional in some cases.




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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 11:43:21 (permalink)
Enter it Bub.

Take yer iPhone5.765 and make a vid.

I wanna see you win (even though I'm not mentioned in the song)
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 11:59:38 (permalink)
I was gonna use your name, but I couldn't think of anything to rhyme with Bapu at the time. :)

I would never enter that. I used too many people's names from around here and I'd feel funny about it. Besides, you definitely don't want to see any video of me. I've put on a few pounds since that pic in my signature was taken. :(

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 12:32:29 (permalink)
Bub


ohgrant

I certainly don't want to discourage anyone from entering. I do kind of think experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists.
If anything I would think the single artist would be celebrated more. The guys who use X1 for tracking, mixing, mastering and do it all themselves rather than pay someone else to do the mastering stage.

That silly little song in my signature ... 100% me from start to finish using only samples included with X1, samples I created, free synth's off the web, and the only plug-in's used were ones that came with X1. Seems to me something like that would be more impressive than a collaboration of people who then send their mix out to be mastered by a professional in some cases.


What gives you that impression Bub? Larry and I do everything from tracking to mixing and mastering.

 
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 13:06:46 (permalink)

Not least because the qualification for winning the V-Studio 100 is open to US residents only. Why?

Legal reasons - if we could change it we would.  Unfortunately its outside of our control.  I'm not a lawyer and don't have the specifics but we go through this every time we do a contest.  I'm truly sorry, but we can't.


I can enter from the UK, I can win the competition, but I can't have a V-S 100

You can submit your info and be featured on the Cakewalk website, but you won't be in the contest to win


I can enter from the UK, I can win the competition, I can't have a V-S 100 but Cakewalk can still use my testimonials/endorsements etc for their own benefit
The spirit of this whole thing was supposed to be for your benefit as well, you getting your music and story featured.  As I said earlier - the VS-100 was just to create an extra incentive.  To be completely honest - the amount of time it will take us to sift through everyone's content, re-size graphics and get stories edited and quotes etc will likely far outweigh 'our own benefit'.  We're not some giant corporate entity trying to use your content to sell our products, we just wanted to find a way to tell your stories.  Does it show us in a positive light - well yeah sure.  Are we going to break any sales records by doing it - no.


I can enter from the UK and I can't win the competition

Yes


I can enter from the UK and I can't win the competition but Cakewalk can still use my testimonials/endorsements for their own benefit

See above


I can't enter from the UK?

As it says you can still submit your info to be featured on our site, but you cannot be in the contest for the VS-100


To me, the video component of the entry seems to a bit like having a photography competition but also asking the entrants to send in an oil painting showing them using their camera equipment.
I think I already clarified that this can be a music video, live performance or anything.  Is it really that insane of us to think that musicians have videos on YouTube? 

Tough crowd

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 13:11:22 (permalink)
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Bub


ohgrant

I certainly don't want to discourage anyone from entering. I do kind of think experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists.
If anything I would think the single artist would be celebrated more. The guys who use X1 for tracking, mixing, mastering and do it all themselves rather than pay someone else to do the mastering stage.

That silly little song in my signature ... 100% me from start to finish using only samples included with X1, samples I created, free synth's off the web, and the only plug-in's used were ones that came with X1. Seems to me something like that would be more impressive than a collaboration of people who then send their mix out to be mastered by a professional in some cases.


What gives you that impression Bub? Larry and I do everything from tracking to mixing and mastering.


Did somebody mention paying for stuff?...

WOW, Bub keep going at this rate and you're going to single-handedly get everyone to enter just for the express purpose of pi$$ing you off...

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 13:19:08 (permalink)

Tough crowd


I find if you batter them with a mallet, grill them thoroughly for 45 minutes and reduce their post count they become quite tender.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2011/06/04 13:20:23

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 14:06:48 (permalink)
I sometimes wish for a Tongue In Cheek Smiley... I could have inserted it many times so my comments wouldn't be mis- understood...

Maybe with the new forum software...


I dont use any Cakewalk Software in a direct way in my live music ...BUT

I sure get a mile high high for my own personal enjoyment when I create, mix and produce my own projects on Cakewalk software .

Who needs hookers and blow, I got X1,,,

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 15:54:56 (permalink)
 
Hi Willy, and many thanks for replying to my post.
 
 
 
 
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Not least because the qualification for winning the V-Studio 100 is open to US residents only. Why?
Legal reasons - if we could change it we would.  Unfortunately its outside of our control.  I'm not a lawyer and don't have the specifics but we go through this every time we do a contest.  I'm truly sorry, but we can't.
I've seen similar restrictions where an entrance fee is involved, but not when the entry is free. Maybe it's because the competition is only open to Cakewalk customers?
 
Still, why not let Roland Europe run the next similar competition and only let EU residents qualify for winning the prize? I'd be interested in the "tough crowd" reaction of all the Americans who were allowed to enter but not win the prize.

I can enter from the UK, I can win the competition, but I can't have a V-S 100

You can submit your info and be featured on the Cakewalk website, but you won't be in the contest to win


I can enter from the UK, I can win the competition, I can't have a V-S 100 but Cakewalk can still use my testimonials/endorsements etc for their own benefit
The spirit of this whole thing was supposed to be for your benefit as well, you getting your music and story featured.  As I said earlier - the VS-100 was just to create an extra incentive.  To be completely honest - the amount of time it will take us to sift through everyone's content, re-size graphics and get stories edited and quotes etc will likely far outweigh 'our own benefit'.  We're not some giant corporate entity trying to use your content to sell our products, we just wanted to find a way to tell your stories.  Does it show us in a positive light - well yeah sure.  Are we going to break any sales records by doing it - no.
I understand completely, and thanks for explaining it. My apologies for suggesting anything other than what you have stated.

I can enter from the UK and I can't win the competition

Yes


I can enter from the UK and I can't win the competition but Cakewalk can still use my testimonials/endorsements for their own benefit

See above


I can't enter from the UK?

As it says you can still submit your info to be featured on our site, but you cannot be in the contest for the VS-100


To me, the video component of the entry seems to a bit like having a photography competition but also asking the entrants to send in an oil painting showing them using their camera equipment.
I think I already clarified that this can be a music video, live performance or anything.  Is it really that insane of us to think that musicians have videos on YouTube? 
No, but it wouldn't be "sane" to think everyone does. I think my comparision is valid.
 
Tough crowd
Well I guess so, but you guys don't seem to do yourselves any favours in the PR department.
 
And I paid the same (well, more actually) for my Cakewalk software and hardware as those who live in the US. Maybe you should outline these kind of international trade restrictions in the EULA (if you already don't).
 
Still, when all's said and done, it's still great that you guys come into the forums and have these open chats with us and reply to the PMs we send you- that's one reason that I for one will continue to support you
 
 
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 16:43:37 (permalink)
Jonbouy


jamesg1213


Bub


ohgrant

I certainly don't want to discourage anyone from entering. I do kind of think experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists.
If anything I would think the single artist would be celebrated more. The guys who use X1 for tracking, mixing, mastering and do it all themselves rather than pay someone else to do the mastering stage.

That silly little song in my signature ... 100% me from start to finish using only samples included with X1, samples I created, free synth's off the web, and the only plug-in's used were ones that came with X1. Seems to me something like that would be more impressive than a collaboration of people who then send their mix out to be mastered by a professional in some cases.


What gives you that impression Bub? Larry and I do everything from tracking to mixing and mastering.


Did somebody mention paying for stuff?...

WOW, Bub keep going at this rate and you're going to single-handedly get everyone to enter just for the express purpose of pi$$ing you off...
I'm not pissed Jonbouy ... sorry you got that impression. You need to work on that, you have a habit of misinterpreting things people say.

I was simply agreeing with Grant that "... experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists." and added that in my opinion I think a song done by a single artist from start to finish in X1 would hold more weight in my eyes than a collaboration who gets help from a third party mastering their material or uses any third party plug-ins.

I'm basing that off the fact that X1 was advertised as being capable of producing "radio ready" mixes so I would think that's what they would be looking for? Nudge nudge wink wink. ;-)
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 16:50:15 (permalink)
You need to work on that


Thanks

I shall add it to my big long list of things I have to work on... 

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 16:52:28 (permalink)
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I was simply agreeing with Grant that "... experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists."


A simple question for you - what advantage exactly?

 
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 17:04:00 (permalink)
jamesg1213

Bub

I was simply agreeing with Grant that "... experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists."
A simple question for you - what advantage exactly?
Perhaps you should ask Grant since he said it?

I happen to agree, but maybe not for the same reason's as Grant and I wouldn't want to speak for him.


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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 17:09:33 (permalink)
Bub


jamesg1213

Bub

I was simply agreeing with Grant that "... experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists."
A simple question for you - what advantage exactly?
Perhaps you should ask Grant since he said it?

I happen to agree, but maybe not for the same reason's as Grant and I wouldn't want to speak for him.

I'm asking you what you meant.

 
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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 17:17:13 (permalink)
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Bub


jamesg1213

Bub

I was simply agreeing with Grant that "... experienced collab teams such as the SMB or the CHB might have an unfair advantage over single artists."
A simple question for you - what advantage exactly?
Perhaps you should ask Grant since he said it?

I happen to agree, but maybe not for the same reason's as Grant and I wouldn't want to speak for him.

I'm asking you what you meant.
Sorry James. I'm not going to play along with this, it seems juvenile. If you don't like the fact that someone said the CHB would have an unfair advantage, then you should talk to the person who originally said it rather than try to pin someone else down on it.




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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 17:20:00 (permalink)
dang!  everybody's undershreddies are in a wad over this contest.

come on guys, chill?  ok?  it's not really worth getting that worked up over. 

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 17:24:20 (permalink)
Could somebody like me enter this contest?

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 17:26:07 (permalink)
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Could somebody like me enter this contest?
I think those of us who have been banned are automatically disqualified.




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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 17:34:31 (permalink)
I have a record? Marked for life? nothing to look forward to? Back to borrowing cars and money from the banks? Boney and Claude revisited? NOT EVEN HONORABLE MENTION? 

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 20:35:35 (permalink)
Still, why not let Roland Europe run the next similar competition and only let EU residents qualify for winning the prize?
If Roland Central Europe, Roland UK (or any Roland office for that matter) wanted to they could.  We're not preventing them from doing so nor do we have the power to make them.  Other Roland offices often run contests, promotions and special offers that are only applicable to their market.

Could somebody like me enter this contest?

Yes - absolutely.

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Re:WILLIE SWELLS UP THE CHB 2011/06/04 21:34:03 (permalink)
Wow Bill!  Sounds like you've got this one is the bag!

 
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