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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 11:59:55 (permalink)
And X3C ignored the bug and as a result the combination worked fine.
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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 12:05:58 (permalink)
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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 12:33:35 (permalink)
Exactly.

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@48/24 & 128 buffers latency is 367 with offset of 38.

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 12:34:52 (permalink)
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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 12:41:39 (permalink)
You are being incessantly narcissistic Alex. You can not speak for me of what I am being affected by. I already answered about Noel's statement. There was no 'bug' or 'incorrect' behavior identified before X3D so this is a NEW behavior regardless of where it lies.
 
Bottom line is something changed in X3D and it has been identified as a change in CW code as well as Waves not giving CW what they need. Waves has been notified. I am fine with where this issue is going and support Cakewalk and Waves that they will get it corrected.

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 12:48:15 (permalink)
> There was no 'bug' or 'incorrect' behavior identified before X3D
 
So as far as you are concerned what Noel wrote was the incorrect cause of the bug, and it was X3D that broke this, worse in fact caused this :
 
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
What is broken here is that the plugin's are not sending the notification back to SONAR and this puts it out of sync. Now when you save the project we save the state that SONAR knows about which is incorrect and when you load it back you get the incorrect state that you are seeing.

 
Clearly you don't agree with the above statement.
Glad we got that sorted ;)
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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 12:57:24 (permalink)
No, you are assume I do not agree with that.
 
You are missing my point and I do know yours.
 
I already answered Noels statement question from you. I know there is a disconnect from what Waves is sending and what CW is getting in X3D.
 
Please look at what I originally asked. I wanted to know if anyone ran into this and what the changes were. I know now and I am happy with the direction they are both going with it. Shouldn't that be all that matters here?

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 13:00:23 (permalink)
Now (finally) a point I don't have to argue with :) At last !

Keep safe Conley, I do respect you a lot probably because you remind me of myself, stubborn as hell :).
Anyway keep posting and keep commenting, you contributions are often useful, it might come across all wrong but believe me I do have a lot of respect for you, determination more than anything...
 
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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 13:04:26 (permalink)
mods anyone?

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 13:05:19 (permalink)
I appreciate and respect your opinion too Alex. That is why I have not blown up as much as I wanted.  :-D
 
Peace to you bro! now get some sleep. :)

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 13:57:29 (permalink)
Sleep, and a reference to getting a room in the same thread.    Scary stuff.
 

 

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 14:39:13 (permalink)
Oh my this is still going on?
 
As my little buddy Mooch would say, since Noel chimed in, WHO CARES!!??!!
 
We know there is a problem, Noel, Waves and DMG(sic?) are working on it.
 
I'm gonna go re-scan my plugs now (and sacrifice that chicken).
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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 14:45:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/01/31 14:48:18
Bapu - could you scan mine too, while you're at it?
And don't forget to reset! ;-)

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 14:49:15 (permalink)

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 15:12:40 (permalink)
Hmm I was thinking about a threesome, but five might be pushing it...

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 16:50:57 (permalink)
I've confirmed myself that the Waves Chris Lord Alge plugins do not stay set to the settings I've made to them when I re-open X3D.  It's a bit un-nerving because I've had to basically recreate the mix.  So my workaround has been to save as a user preset- on EVERY instance I have open.  When I open the project with those plugins I THEN have to go to all of them I have on any track and re-load my user preset.  It's a PITA.  However, I couldn't say if it's Sonar or Waves issue- but it's an issue.

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 17:04:25 (permalink)
It's a back end issue.

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 17:12:47 (permalink)
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It's a back end issue.


I've had back end issues before.
 
Preparation H took care of it.
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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 17:21:59 (permalink)
Bapu - I bet you forgot to "reset" before you rescanned...

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 17:46:23 (permalink)
Sorry Bapu, there's a difference between back end and bottom end :).
Anyway I got the bum deal...

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/01/31 18:52:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Guitarmech111 2014/01/31 20:01:57
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I've confirmed myself that the Waves Chris Lord Alge plugins do not stay set to the settings I've made to them when I re-open X3D.  It's a bit un-nerving because I've had to basically recreate the mix.  So my workaround has been to save as a user preset- on EVERY instance I have open.  When I open the project with those plugins I THEN have to go to all of them I have on any track and re-load my user preset.  It's a PITA.  However, I couldn't say if it's Sonar or Waves issue- but it's an issue.



The easiest way to avoid the problem is to NOT use SONAR's  preset picker and to use the preset picker from the Waves UI. The waves issue is that the plugins are not working properly in VST3 unless the default preset (preset 0) is selected while saving and loading.  Apparently that doesn't change the current preset as reported to the host although it picks the right preset inside the plugin.

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/02/01 02:43:57 (permalink)
I got to the end and I sure hope it is. Please may I have the last word?

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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/02/01 13:49:20 (permalink)
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The easiest way to avoid the problem is to NOT use SONAR's  preset picker and to use the preset picker from the Waves UI......



Thanks for confirming what I said in post #11 of this thread.
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Re: Waves presets - not working in X3D 2014/02/06 12:49:00 (permalink)
This should be the last word - I just got Notice that this issue has been submitted to Development. Thanks Bakers.

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