What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?

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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2011/03/08 19:11:34 (permalink)
Ahh ok, yeah that's no good.


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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2011/03/08 19:20:39 (permalink)
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Breverb is 64bit too If I recall correctly...

@Corling.... what problems are you having using EWQL Spaces...   I'm really tempted to purchase it.

IF you are a registered SoundsOnline user then you can put in a Serial # and read their Support forum.
 
Given how deep SoundsOnline buries their support forum, I was suprised to find it bursting with complaints about their products -- including Spaces.
 
IF the reverbs I purchased recently (Spaces, Aether and EAReverb) worked, I'd say Aether is by far the best.
 
Maybe I will buy Breverb wich will be $1,000+ towards the effort to find a good, stable 64-bit reverb. I hope the fourth time is a charm!

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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2011/03/08 19:44:38 (permalink)
Get the LXP.   Lexicon reverbs sound amazing, and have probably graced more top tracks than just about anything.   It's just in the last year that they have finally released their good algorithms in VST format instead of $3000 hardware rack units.


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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2011/03/08 20:31:12 (permalink)
Okay, I discovered the issue I was having with EAReverb is actually a specific issue that can develop when it follows Anteres Autotune Evo in the VST signal chain.

The issue resolved when I flipped their order and flipped it back. I am crossing my fingers to see if it develops again.

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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2011/03/08 20:57:43 (permalink)
Hi Corling, I"m surprised with your setup (Intel i7-980x, etc.) that you're getting crashes with Aether, is it just your one project it crashes in? or is it others too?


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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2011/03/09 10:00:50 (permalink)
Hi Corling,

I hope Autotune EVO works fine with EAReverb now.
I have not found a way to reproduce this problem with one of my installed pitch-shifters, but I will keep continue to investigate.

For your information, I'm currently working on 2 new models for EAReverb (very large and extremely large ones).
These models should be sent to the testers team today... I just hope Dave will like them ;-)

Kind regards,
Philippe
post edited by PFozz - 2011/03/09 10:01:58
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2011/03/09 15:23:11 (permalink)
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Hi Corling, I"m surprised with your setup (Intel i7-980x, etc.) that you're getting crashes with Aether, is it just your one project it crashes in? or is it others too?

I am able to run one instance of Aether on the audio track of a brand new default template with full stability.

For some reason, once I added three instances to my current Sonar project, the plugin caused instability. Aether's specific DLL crashes when I attempt to load the project, and the project loads fine if I disable its DLL.

As a general caveat -- my Cakewalk projects seem to be easily made unstable. I don't know if I push the limits of the project specification or what. (I don't think I'm doing anything *that* elaborate).

There have been cases with numerous plugins (specifically NI Kontakt Player, QL Spaces, EastWest's PLAY Engine, and probably some others) where I could run the plugin with high stability as a single instance in a brand new project template -- but had it become unstable in a full project.

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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2011/03/11 17:03:25 (permalink)
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http://www.liquidsonics.com/software_reverberate.htm

Works fine in Reaper 64bit, dont know about Sonar x1?


This is bundled in the DVD with the January issue of Computer Music - the one that covers Sonar X1.  I believe it is the CM version but is quite similar to the full version which retails for $50.

http://www.musicradar.com/computermusic/computer-music-160-january-issue-on-sale-now-335910



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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2011/03/12 16:21:30 (permalink)
IS the CM music version of Reveberate X64native?

What has been dumbed down??
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/16 22:20:04 (permalink)
Corling


Update also posted at the top:

What I have now purchased due to suggestions in this thread:
 
2CAudio Aether -- unfortunately, after I bought this, it will not run stably in my current Sonar project. If I start a blank project I seem to be able to run one instance stably, but multiple instances cause my current project to crash.
http://www.2caudio.com/products/aether/index.html
EAReverb
After downloading the demo for this and finding the demo to operate beautifully, I purchased the full version. Unfortunately, the full version has a bug that causes it to distort the audio on my tracks (make it sound much lower). It is unusable.
http://eareckon.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=74&lang=en

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With Spaces, Aether and EAReverb failing, I've spent $750 in the past month looking for a Reverb VST that does not crash in my current Sonar Project or have debilitating bugs. Too many times, the demo works fine but then the actual version does not (e.g. EAReverb).


Wow-Sure seems like you have something else going on. I mean, you have some the top reverbs and they don't work for you? That's weird. Just sayin..................................................I bought Reverberate x64 $75 and rock ssolid for me. My specs are below

 
 
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/16 22:58:37 (permalink)
I really like Valhalla Room:  http://www.valhalladsp.com/valhallaroom. It's a fantastic reverb, and costs only $50.

I use it in my synthesizer arrangement of Venus from Holst's "The Planets": http://soundcloud.com/mike-leghorn/venus. It's 64-bit, and I'm using it in Sonar X1 64-bit.


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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 00:18:45 (permalink)
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I like PerfectSpace and Classic Studio Reverb by IK Multimedia.


+1 for CSR or both, actually.

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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 05:46:15 (permalink)
Vienna Hybrid Reverb (part of the Vienna Suite) they are all 64bit and beautiful.
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 09:39:24 (permalink)
Sorry to come to this thread late but you CANNOT beat Valhallaroom for value for money. $50 and this thing is awesome - seriously, download the demo, you will not be disapointed.
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 09:50:25 (permalink)
the lex is stable via bitbridge

 
+1
 
Not cheap... but you'll not have to worry about reverb for a while.

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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 10:12:27 (permalink)
http://www.liquidsonics.com/home.htm

Liquidsonics Reverberat - from UK are really great Convolution Reverb. Also it is in full x64bit. Also it support "True Stereo" + Zero latency -mode in extremely low cpu usage.
 
IMHO "Reverberat " are much better then Waves or Altiverb Convolution Reverb. IR Convolution reverb is the way to go if you want the best possible reverb sound. I have convolutions samples from Lexicon 960 hardware + real places like Vienna Philamonica Hall, churches etc..


 
 
 
 
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 11:33:58 (permalink)
+ 1 on Valhalla Room

Not sure how you can beat this one...




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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 11:37:13 (permalink)
Corling


For the life of me, I can't find a good 64-bit Reverb.

What I Own:

Spaces from EastWest is 64-bit but it's a buggy mess in X1a:
http://www.soundsonline.com/Spaces

iZotope Nectar is 64-bit  has a "so so" Reverb, but it is not nearly as robust as Altiverb, Wizooverb or other classic 32-bit reverbs:
http://izotope.com/products/audio/nectar/

Altiverb is not 64-bit and is a buggy mess if I try to run it in BitBridge:
http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Altiverb/features/Altiverb6features.html

What I'm Afraid To Buy Because They Are 32-bit:

Lexicon LXP is not 64-bit. I don't own it but as unstable as Altiverb is, I'm afraid to buy another reverb to run via BitBridge
http://www.lexiconpro.com/product.php?id=167

Voxengo Pristine Space is another reverb from a reputable company that is not 64-bit
http://www.voxengo.com/product/pspace/

As usual, Waves is determined to never join the 21st Century and forever be 32-bit. This includes their IR-1 reverb
http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=250

Am I missing any 64-bit reverb options? What do other 64-bit users do for reverb?

EDIT:
 
What I have now purchased due to suggestions in this thread:
 
2CAudio Aether -- unfortunately, after I bought this, it will not run stably in my current Sonar project. If I start a blank project I seem to be able to run one instance stably, but multiple instances cause my current project to crash.
http://www.2caudio.com/products/aether/index.html

EAReverb
After downloading the demo for this and finding the demo to operate beautifully, I purchased the full version. Currently, the full version has a bug that causes it to distort the audio output of Autotune Evo (frequency-shifting it down to sound much lower), and I usually put AutoTune right before the reverbs in my signal chain. I'm investigating a workaround for this.


http://eareckon.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=74&lang=en





Quick question - why are still using X1A when version C is available along with updated patches?









 
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 12:19:22 (permalink)
You do realize this thread was started in March of last year right? That is why it says X1a. It just seems to have been revived.
 
My two cents:
 
For value you just cannot beat ValhallaRoom as several have said. In fact, ALL of the Valhalla plugs are just amazing. I got Shimmer and have been channeling my inner Brian Eno. UberMod is also just great.
 
For those of you that have no issue with the iLok (please....let's not start that war here) I can't say enough great things about Softube's TSAR-1. That is the big brother of TSAR-1R which comes in the Softube mix bundle that Cakewalk sells. That whole bundle is a GREAT deal by the way IMHO. If I could only use 1 reverb in a project it would be TSAR-1. Not cheap though if bought standalone. TSAR-1R is really good also just not as flexible.
 
If you want to get wild effects well beyond standard reverb then Fabfilter's Timeless 2 is just amazing. More along the lines of reverb/delay.
 
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 16:57:05 (permalink)
Otto70


http://www.liquidsonics.com/software_reverberate.htm

Works fine in Reaper 64bit, dont know about Sonar x1?


Hi Oto...

a big +1 from me here... I just downloaded the free 64bit/32bit version the other day and tested it with some of the IR's I have... It sounds quite good. I'm only 32bit here myself tho I run the 64bit engine in Sonar, but it claims to be 64bit so it should run native on a 64bit system (ie without bitbridge)...

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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 18:00:43 (permalink)
Corling
Altiverb is not 64-bit and is a buggy mess if I try to run it in BitBridge:
http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Altiverb/features/Altiverb6features.html
Am I missing any 64-bit reverb options? What do other 64-bit users do for reverb? 

Yes, you're missing that current version of Altiverb is 7 and supports 64 bit. it's a matter of waiting patiently, I agree the 64 bit has been a pain for all of us but it pays in the long run.

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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/17 18:32:40 (permalink)
inaheartbeat


You do realize this thread was started in March of last year right? 
 

Obviously I didn't, my oversight, didn't pay attention to the original date.

 
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/18 05:04:29 (permalink)
Keni


Otto70


http://www.liquidsonics.com/software_reverberate.htm

Works fine in Reaper 64bit, dont know about Sonar x1?


Hi Oto...

a big +1 from me here... I just downloaded the free 64bit/32bit version the other day and tested it with some of the IR's I have... It sounds quite good. I'm only 32bit here myself tho I run the 64bit engine in Sonar, but it claims to be 64bit so it should run native on a 64bit system (ie without bitbridge)...

Keni
Yes Keni, It does.
I'm use it myself and it works perfect in SONAR X1 x64. It is extremely stable, never crashed a single time yet.


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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/18 16:38:02 (permalink)
Really surprised the new kings of algorithmic reverb haven't been brought up more. The others are really 2nd rate by comparison with the advancements these two guys have made for ITB verbs.
 
http://www.valhalladsp.com/valhallaroom
 

 
 
http://www.relab.dk/lx480_lite.html
 
 
  
  
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/18 21:30:50 (permalink)
Without question:

UAD: Lexicon 224 vst.
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/19 07:40:11 (permalink)
I use UAD EMT Plate 140--and have for years--works fine in 64bit.

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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/01/19 21:40:21 (permalink)
I just tested the Lexicon LXP reverb plug in Sonar X1c.

It sounds good. Really good. Unfortunately, it's also $524 and uses iLok.

However, the current version (Jan. 18) is NOT 64-bit; it is a 32-bit plug-in.

After testing this and a few others, my advice is to just use the Sonitus Reverb x64, and wait for the Lexicon LXP to develop their 64-bit version and lower their price.

But oh . . . it does sound sweet.
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/12/28 10:33:49 (permalink)
Spaces from EastWest is 64-bit but it's a buggy mess in X1a:

 
I have an interest in Spaces at the current sale price.  Then I saw this posting from 2011.
 
Can anyone expand on the "buggy mess" comment?  What types of problems?  Have these since been resolved?
 
Are others using Spaces in Sonar X1 or X2?
 
Thanks!

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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/12/28 10:53:31 (permalink)
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Spaces from EastWest is 64-bit but it's a buggy mess in X1a:
I have an interest in Spaces at the current sale price.  Then I saw this posting from 2011.
 
Can anyone expand on the "buggy mess" comment?  What types of problems?  Have these since been resolved?
 
Are others using Spaces in Sonar X1 or X2?
 
Thanks!

From what I can surmise from the dump he posted near the beginning of the thread, he was having memory issues of some sort.  It's too bad that people kept recommending that he buy this reverb or that, when I suspect he had a problem with his system that needed to be sorted out first.  I wonder if he ever figured out what was going on?  Anyway, assuming your system is stabile, I don't think you would have the same sorts of problems that the OP was having, so I would say 'take the plunge'.


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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a? 2012/12/28 11:04:25 (permalink)
Corling


For the life of me, I can't find a good 64-bit Reverb.

What I Own:

Spaces from EastWest is 64-bit but it's a buggy mess in X1a:
http://www.soundsonline.com/Spaces

iZotope Nectar is 64-bit  has a "so so" Reverb, but it is not nearly as robust as Altiverb, Wizooverb or other classic 32-bit reverbs:
http://izotope.com/products/audio/nectar/

Altiverb is not 64-bit and is a buggy mess if I try to run it in BitBridge:
http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Altiverb/features/Altiverb6features.html

What I'm Afraid To Buy Because They Are 32-bit:

Lexicon LXP is not 64-bit. I don't own it but as unstable as Altiverb is, I'm afraid to buy another reverb to run via BitBridge
http://www.lexiconpro.com/product.php?id=167

Voxengo Pristine Space is another reverb from a reputable company that is not 64-bit
http://www.voxengo.com/product/pspace/

As usual, Waves is determined to never join the 21st Century and forever be 32-bit. This includes their IR-1 reverb
http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=250

Am I missing any 64-bit reverb options? What do other 64-bit users do for reverb?

EDIT:
 
What I have now purchased due to suggestions in this thread:
 
2CAudio Aether -- unfortunately, after I bought this, it will not run stably in my current Sonar project. If I start a blank project I seem to be able to run one instance stably, but multiple instances cause my current project to crash.
http://www.2caudio.com/products/aether/index.html

EAReverb
After downloading the demo for this and finding the demo to operate beautifully, I purchased the full version. Currently, the full version has a bug that causes it to distort the audio output of Autotune Evo (frequency-shifting it down to sound much lower), and I usually put AutoTune right before the reverbs in my signal chain. I'm investigating a workaround for this.


http://eareckon.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=74&lang=en

Hi - I am jut trying to get up to speed on this thread, will help if I can.  Can you please detail your system specs? (CPU/RAM/OS Version/Sonar version/etc).  I am just wondering if there may be something with your system itself that is a factor with the instability you are seeing from so many different plugins.  


Also, do you have antivirus software running during audio processing sessions with Sonar?  If so, which one?  (these can sometimes interfere with audio processing).


Is your operating system patch current?  When you installed the current operating system on your computer, was it a clean install, or an upgrade?

What patches are applied to the version of Sonar you are running?  (X1 has some, X2 has a quick fix and an X2a set of patches).

As I was looking down through other posts here in this thread, and seeing others in the forum using some of the same plugins that are driving you crazy (but they are using them without these crashes), that is what led me to ask these questions - just in case there is something that can be altered in your system that may alleviate some of these issues you are having.

Bob Bone


Wisdom is a giant accumulation of "DOH!"
 
Sonar: Platinum (x64), X3 (x64) 
Audio Interfaces: AudioBox 1818VSL, Steinberg UR-22
Computers: 1) i7-2600 k, 32 GB RAM, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 & 2) AMD A-10 7850 32 GB RAM Windows 10 Pro x64
Soft Synths: NI Komplete 8 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, many others
MIDI Controllers: M-Audio Axiom Pro 61, Keystation 88es
Settings: 24-Bit, Sample Rate 48k, ASIO Buffer Size 128, Total Round Trip Latency 9.7 ms  
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