Corling
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What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
For the life of me, I can't find a good 64-bit Reverb. What I Own:
Spaces from EastWest is 64-bit but it's a buggy mess in X1a: http://www.soundsonline.com/Spaces iZotope Nectar is 64-bit has a "so so" Reverb, but it is not nearly as robust as Altiverb, Wizooverb or other classic 32-bit reverbs: http://izotope.com/products/audio/nectar/ Altiverb is not 64-bit and is a buggy mess if I try to run it in BitBridge: http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Altiverb/features/Altiverb6features.html What I'm Afraid To Buy Because They Are 32-bit: Lexicon LXP is not 64-bit. I don't own it but as unstable as Altiverb is, I'm afraid to buy another reverb to run via BitBridge http://www.lexiconpro.com/product.php?id=167 Voxengo Pristine Space is another reverb from a reputable company that is not 64-bit http://www.voxengo.com/product/pspace/ As usual, Waves is determined to never join the 21st Century and forever be 32-bit. This includes their IR-1 reverb http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=250 Am I missing any 64-bit reverb options? What do other 64-bit users do for reverb? EDIT: What I have now purchased due to suggestions in this thread: 2CAudio Aether -- unfortunately, after I bought this, it will not run stably in my current Sonar project. If I start a blank project I seem to be able to run one instance stably, but multiple instances cause my current project to crash. http://www.2caudio.com/products/aether/index.html EAReverb After downloading the demo for this and finding the demo to operate beautifully, I purchased the full version. Currently, the full version has a bug that causes it to distort the audio output of Autotune Evo (frequency-shifting it down to sound much lower), and I usually put AutoTune right before the reverbs in my signal chain. I'm investigating a workaround for this. http://eareckon.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=74&lang=en
post edited by Corling - 2011/03/08 20:18:49
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biodiode
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 17:05:16
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 17:07:19
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the lex is stable via bitbridge
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 17:12:07
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 17:21:11
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64bit: Sonitus Reverb is still my favorite.
32bit: Perfect Space Conv. Reverb.
I've tried demo's of others and those two (both come with Sonar) are still my favorite.
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 17:21:27
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I use the Lexicon LXP as well, and have had no problems with it. Sounds awesome of course too.
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Corling
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 17:21:59
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 17:25:12
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Perfect Space makes a pretty good aux bus "natural sounding" reverb. It may be 32 bit, but I've run it under 64bit for years without any problems.
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 17:30:20
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Aether is really cool, and so is the breeze, I own both. Go into your options and turn oversampling up... Aether has a ton of tweak-ability, it really lets you dial in what you're looking for
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 17:55:15
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My DAW: Intel i5, Cakewalk UA-1G, Win7 64 bit, SONAR X1a Producer 64 bit
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 17:57:18
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Any issues for using convo verbs really only depends on the quality of the impulses themselves.
Waves, Voxengo Pristine Space both work fine in x64 using Bit Bridge.
(be careful of zipper noises with Altiverb using tempo changes in Sonar)
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Corling
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 18:24:08
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Lucky me, I just spent $250 on Aether and while it sounds great, it also crashes when Sonar tries to load the project! Here is my crude non-programmer analysis of Aether's minidump file.
GetPageUrlData failed, server returned HTTP status 404
URL requested: http://watson.microsoft.com/StageOne/SONARPDR_exe/18_0_1_197/4d0900d5/audplg64_dll/0_0_0_0/4cfe6fa9/c0000005/0001812b.htm?Retriage=1
FAULTING_IP:
audplg64+1812b
000007fe`eac9812b 0f2927 movaps xmmword ptr [rdi],xmm4
EXCEPTION_RECORD: ffffffffffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff)
ExceptionAddress: 000007feeac9812b (audplg64+0x000000000001812b)
ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
Parameter[0]: 0000000000000001
Parameter[1]: 000000004a361000
Attempt to write to address 000000004a361000
PROCESS_NAME: SONARPDR.exe
ADDITIONAL_DEBUG_TEXT:
Use '!findthebuild' command to search for the target build information.
If the build information is available, run '!findthebuild -s ; .reload' to set symbol path and load symbols.
FAULTING_MODULE: 0000000077ca0000 ntdll
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4cfe6fa9
ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%08lx referenced memory at 0x%08lx. The memory could not be %s.
EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%08lx referenced memory at 0x%08lx. The memory could not be %s.
EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000001
EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2: 000000004a361000
WRITE_ADDRESS: 000000004a361000
FOLLOWUP_IP:
audplg64+1812b
000007fe`eac9812b 0f2927 movaps xmmword ptr [rdi],xmm4
MOD_LIST: <ANALYSIS/>
FAULTING_THREAD: 000000000000082c
BUGCHECK_STR: APPLICATION_FAULT_INVALID_POINTER_WRITE_WRONG_SYMBOLS
PRIMARY_PROBLEM_CLASS: INVALID_POINTER_WRITE
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: INVALID_POINTER_WRITE
LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 000007feeac82d46 to 000007feeac9812b
STACK_TEXT:
STACK_COMMAND: ~0s; .ecxr ; kb
SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 0
SYMBOL_NAME: audplg64+1812b
FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner
MODULE_NAME: audplg64
IMAGE_NAME: audplg64.dll
BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: INVALID_POINTER_WRITE_c0000005_audplg64.dll!Unknown
WATSON_STAGEONE_URL: http://watson.microsoft.com/StageOne/SONARPDR_exe/18_0_1_197/4d0900d5/audplg64_dll/0_0_0_0/4cfe6fa9/c0000005/0001812b.htm?Retriage=1
Followup: MachineOwner
I guess I'll go bark up 2CO's tree. *SIGH* Why don't these things just work?
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pathos
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 18:38:25
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I have 2-3 instances of Aether in all my projects using X1x64.
Post your computer specs so others can diagnose your problem easier.
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windsurfer25x
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 19:00:52
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SOrry to hear you're having issues.. when I have computer issues I always feel like breaking something, I haven't had any issues with Aether, the support guys for 2Caudio are pretty good though
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Corling
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 19:16:27
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windsurfer25x
SOrry to hear you're having issues.. when I have computer issues I always feel like breaking something, I haven't had any issues with Aether, the support guys for 2Caudio are pretty good though
Really? I was just on their website looking for support -- I could not find it: http://www.2caudio.com/products/aether/ I am also having this odd problem where when the plugin DOES load -- when I authorize it, save the project and re-open the project, the plugin state is not saved as "authorized" and I have to re-authorize it.
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 19:31:28
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 19:59:31
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Overloud Breverb is also one you might want to check out. Comes in native 64bit. Best results come from tweaking it to your liking. Presets are hit and miss. I'm quite amazed at how some of these major companies are dragging their feet on 64bit support. Now that machines come w/ 64bit Windows as the standard it all but ensures that 32bit will slowly become obsolete. They're going to have to get on board. It's inevitable.
post edited by bladetragic - 2011/03/07 20:09:17
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windsurfer25x
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 20:58:37
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Hey Corling I had the same issue about the authorization. If I remember correctly, it had to do with where the plugin was installed and enabling in the properties of the .dll it to be more than read only. Here's the e-mail for support support@2caudio.com
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/07 21:02:54
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I like PerfectSpace and Classic Studio Reverb by IK Multimedia.
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 00:58:54
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Probably ought to look at Reflektor as well. 64 Bit, zero latency stereo convolution reverb. What's not to like...
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 03:16:07
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Here are some notes I made when I had trouble installing and authorizing Aether:
Run setup.exe as Admin or files will not be installed
Run Sonar as Admin when entering serial or serial will not be remembered
I'm on Win7. HTH.
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Corling
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 03:56:03
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benstat
Here are some notes I made when I had trouble installing and authorizing Aether:
Run setup.exe as Admin or files will not be installed
Run Sonar as Admin when entering serial or serial will not be remembered
I'm on Win7. HTH.
Wow, running Sonar as an administrator to enter the Serial seemed to solve both problems that I was having. Thanks!
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 04:52:21
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Corling
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 12:04:09
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Err, Lexicon LXP is 64-bit...
http://www.lexiconpro.com/product.php?id=167#specs
No, they use the vague claim of "Software Compatbility." Alleged compatibility has nothing to do with whether it is a native 64-bit VST at all. In fact, it's the vague kind of language developers use to hide the fact that they only have a 32-bit plugin that they happen to have successfully installed and observed not-crashing with a 64-bit OS / DAW.
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 13:48:57
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Vienna Suite is all 64 bit. Great plug-ins! Antares and Waves have disappointed with lack of 64bit versions, but still work around that with jbridge.
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 15:36:38
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I'll also attest to the Lexicon LXP being very stable under BitBridge and also jBridge. One thing to remember is that the Lexicon native reverbs require the use of an iLok device, which many people have sworn off as pure evil. However, I personally haven't had any problems with mine's. Here's a cool-sounding little reverb ( Audio Damage Eos) that I recently picked-up secondhand on KVR forums. They just released a 64-bit native update to it. I had a few problems getting the new 64-bit version to show up in SONAR but their support was very helpful and I eventually got it working. -e.B
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 17:27:30
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Breverb is 64bit too If I recall correctly...
@Corling.... what problems are you having using EWQL Spaces... I'm really tempted to purchase it.
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Corling
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 18:51:18
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Update also posted at the top: What I have now purchased due to suggestions in this thread: 2CAudio Aether -- unfortunately, after I bought this, it will not run stably in my current Sonar project. If I start a blank project I seem to be able to run one instance stably, but multiple instances cause my current project to crash. http://www.2caudio.com/products/aether/index.html EAReverb After downloading the demo for this and finding the demo to operate beautifully, I purchased the full version. Unfortunately, the full version has a bug that causes it to distort the audio on my tracks (make it sound much lower). It is unusable. http://eareckon.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=74&lang=en ------------ With Spaces, Aether and EAReverb failing, I've spent $750 in the past month looking for a Reverb VST that does not crash in my current Sonar Project or have debilitating bugs. Too many times, the demo works fine but then the actual version does not (e.g. EAReverb).
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 18:55:51
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can't you use a compressor etc to bring up the audio if the problem is that it's just too low?
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Corling
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Re:What is the BEST 64-Bit Reverb For X1a?
2011/03/08 19:03:56
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Kroneborge
can't you use a compressor etc to bring up the audio if the problem is that it's just too low?
Sorry, I was not clear. By making it much lower, I meant that EAReverb fundamentally frequency shifts the audio down -- as if I put a pitch shifter plugin on the track and set it to -12 semitones. It is clearly a bug and I contacted their support people. It did not happen when I thoroughly tested the demo.
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