projectm - that link wouldn't work for me I coulde see the page but not the video...

stoutlyric

bladetragic

I will say this, it can be a time consuming process for someone not used to creating that type of music and Sonar is NOT a dubstep friendly program from my brief experience.  There is a LOT of automation involved (assuming you're creating your own sounds and not using samples) and that is one of Sonar's weaker areas.  The broken copy/paste synth automation bug alone will be a pain in the a## and causes more work than necessary. 

Also, the weird way Sonar reads out values on the automation envelopes is an issue since dupstep relies heavily on automating LFO's to sync w/ different note lengths based on the bpm.  Sometimes it will give you the proper readouts like 1/8, 1/16, etc.  Other times it will just give a percentage value.  In the case of creating dubstep you will definitely prefer the former.  Someone w/ more knowledge may know a solution for that one, but I haven't figured out the rhyme or reason to it yet. 

So, what is the best daw for dubstep?

I imagine it comes down to preference and knowledge of the progam at the end of the day, but from what I've seen/heard most seem to prefer Ableton for whatever reason.  I haven't used it so I don't know but a lot of the tutorials you see are in Ableton.  Also seen a few using FL Studio and Cubase also.

sounds of blackness themselves are probably not requesting it. record labels often will have remixers make mixes that seem out of place and will use the hot remixer and genre of the moment. The sounds of blackness had several dance mixes of their songs that were popular in the clubs. i dj'd then and it was natural fit considering many dance music vocalists start off with gospel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh0gPl5Sr4U

bladetragic

konradh


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Sounds of Blackness is a gospel & inspirational group/choir who had a few big songs in the 90's.  That's why I said it was an odd combination earlier.   That's the part I found strange.  I cannot see Sounds of Blackness requesting a dubstep mix.  That's no where near their target audience.  And their "Unity" album came out in 2005.  Maybe I'm missing something.

 
It's not that unusual at all.  Oftentimes a remixer is called in when a group is releasing a greatest hits album, to 'update' the music for a younger audience, which widens the potential audience.  And the 'dubstep' sound is considered to be the hottest genre going around right now. 
 
It may seem strange that a group like the "Sounds of Blackness" would want a dubstep mix, but even Maddie (Madonna) and Britney have the dubstep sound in their latest albums. And, strange combinations are the name of the game.  Going even further back, look at Jay-Z and Linkin Park, and Armand Van Helden remixed Tori Amos' Professional Widow, and BT remixed Sarah McLachlan's Silence.  Heck, Junkie XL remixed Elvis's "A Little less conversation", which became a #1 hit as well! These remixes are actually more well know than the original artist songs, which opened up the audience to much wider exposure (as well as their royalties, nonetheless  )
 
As for hitting the sound of dubtep, I would try the Computer Music Magazine's Ultimate Guide to Dubstep (http://www.musicradar.com/computermusic/the-ultimate-guide-to-dubstep-cm-special-53-on-sale-now-543660).  They sometimes put out genre-specific specials like this showing techniques and the synths that are used.
 
Edit:  Well,  dubdisciple beat me to it as for the reasons why.  However, the info still stands for reference.

" Chregg "So, what is the best daw for dubstep? " lol This is a valid question. If you want to make dubstep as in the original post, then what is the best daw for dubstep friendly production?",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Any DAW will do, its about whether you can program the sounds or not !! and what bladetragic said about being able to snap the automation to note lengths, i have no problem with it, the percentage thing is just how much of say, lfo speed you add, **** it i'll produce a dubstep track using sonar, just to prove ma point !!!!

shawn@trustmedia.tv


I've talked with Gary Hines many times about this project, he loves it...the more I learn about DubStep the more it seems the perfect fit for this song....

here is the "Cinematic Mix" uf UNITY that is the song I'll be creating a dubstep version of... 

http://www.trustmedia.tv/unity.html
- Shawn

That's a great track Shawn and being all one one chord and fairly straight forward makes it very pliable and could be bent in to many genres
but I can see it working really well in dub step.

For some reason it's all in D sharp minor. 
That should have been C sharp minor
   
Steve

oops, done it again

Shawn get hold of some classic Dub like King Tubby and stuff like that, take out the skanking and make the bassline go 'wubwubwubwub' instead, take out the one drop or rocksteady beat and put in some Garage beat instead after reducing the tempo by 50% and then stretching it to fit.

You'll be exactly in the right ball-park.

If you want to be more appealing on that side of the pond listen to some 'Skrillex' records for production techniques, whilst being classed more as 'Brostep' it seems to be more popular outside of the sweaty London clubs who seem to favour more massive 'subs'.

Skrillex

Jonbouy


Shawn get hold of some classic Dub like King Tubby and stuff like that, take out the skanking and make the bassline go 'wubwubwubwub' instead, take out the one drop or rocksteady beat and put in some Garage beat instead after reducing the tempo by 50% and then stretching it to fit.

You'll be exactly in the right ball-park.

If you want to be more appealing on that side of the pond listen to some 'Skrillex' records for production techniques, whilst being classed more as 'Brostep' it seems to be more popular outside of the sweaty London clubs who seem to favour more massive 'subs'.

Thanks for that Shrilex tip Jonbouy
Not heard him but I'm enjoying some iof his myspace choons. Could do with just a touch more wubwubwubwub for me though :)

Steve


Edit
Having said that I could quite soon get bored of it. Some great sounds and all that but a bit (a lot) over produced.

Cheers Dub
I'd go with the traditionalists argument frankly, the cheesy dance and disco elements could come right down in the mix 

Steve

Shawn, I can't get this link to do anything but draw the Trust media logo.  http://www.trustmedia.tv/unity.html

Here's a dubstep remix of bob marley's jammin' http://www.youtube.com/wa...PqHxRQ&feature=related

dahjah..as much as i love dub reggae and would love to give it all the glory, dubstep's relation to reggae is somewhat non-linear. It's signature sounds aka the notorius wobble bass (disclaimer..longtime fans know dubstep is much more than wobble) was handed down from drum and bass. It's rhythm was derived from two-step garage. Mind you, drum and bass came from jungle which was t osome degree a bastard child of techno and dub reggae. I'm not saying dubstep is not related to reggae dub but it is more like a quadroon than mulatto and defintaly not a full blooded descendent (never thought i would use outdated racial classifications to describe music). Also, if you listen closely, dubstep is actually 140 bpm with many elements played in halftime. I know that sounds like splitting hairs, but it makes a big difference when actually producing.

Ha ha! I found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uXGVn86PRw&feature=fvwrel

(Speaking of Skrillex)

I'll try to get my hands on the rest of it. Looks interesting and really funny with those old blokes trying to understand his music
 
 
 
EDIT TO ADD: Oh, I found the home page for it - free soundtrack too. http://regenerationmusicproject.com/

dahjah..very true. i rem,ember the first time hearing jungle back when it was dominated by ragga samples. A few big names in roots dub have embraced dubstep. It's an amazing combination. i think I'm going to have to crank up the subwoofer and annoy my co-workers