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What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
Despite logging untold hours with Sonar, every now and then I come into the forum and someone has come up with some cool trick, shortcut, or feature that makes me go "Wow, that's really cool...I didn't know that!" So I thought a cool thread would be shortcuts you love, usual applications for ordinary devices, or cool techniques that you hardly ever see mentioned. I'll kick off with one of my favorites: Using the Sonitus Delay to create stereo imaging from a mono source. I just insert it, set one channel for 0.1 ms delay and the other for 20-30 ms or so, turn down the feedback and crossfeed, and use the mix control to determine the width. I don't know why, but of all the delays I've tried for this application, the Sonitus seems to work the best. Next...
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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☄ Helpfulby Matt 2014/05/28 22:55:14
My favorite technique is a simple one that began during the days of tape recorders and made simple with digital recording. It's a reverse reverb sound that works like this: 1.record a part, say a vocal line,highlight it and reverse it (process>apply effect>reverse) 2. pick a reverb and apply the effect to the reversed clip 3. Reverse that clip and you'll have the reverb coming before the recorded part and the recorded part will be going forward again. It works best when the clip begins immediately on the first beat and the reverb isn't too long or short. It's quick and fun to experiment with. It can really make a chorus, bridge, or solo stand out.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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Great topic, Craig. I'll probably post again but the first feature that came to mind that other daws probably don't have and is underrated is the RIGHT-CLICK LASSO SELECTING introduced in X2. I hope it won't change in future versions.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/28 20:17:32
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Lynn, that's a nice one. You can use that trick with Delay too -- reverse clip -- add delay -- apply fx -- reverse again. My favorite simple trick is to add nodes to selection for all tracks at once. 1. select all tracks - ctrl+a 2. ctrl click to select the same envelope type for all tracks 3. swipe a highlight region in the time ruler at the top 4. right click over one of the selected envelope regions in any of the tracks 5. choose 'add nodes at selection' Result... 2 nodes are added at either end of the selected region on EVERY track. Why it matters... If you record lots of songs in a row and you want to isolate fader automation from song to song, this makes it easy to ensure you don't accidentally lift the volume of the bass in the last song at the same time you raise it in the current. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJiqjyJnAvg
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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This is exactly the kind of material I'm talking about...carry on! I'll be adding some more of my own.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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I use the loop feature a lot. I'll record maybe 12-20 bars of a song or chord progression, then set my loop points and play it over and over again, trying out various effects, concrete limiter, eq settings etc...I may listen to a simple recording 1,000 times trying out different things...I've been known to let a loop roll for hours and hours... I'll also use the loop feature to jam along with, coming up with new parts...bass lines, percussion, etc....sometimes I'll just spend a couple of minutes laying down a track, then spend hours and hours messing with it....it's all part of my song writing technique... Here's a sample of a recording I made using the loop based writing technique described above....it was done many years ago, but still sounds cool today.... http://www.soundclick.com...&q=hi&newref=1 .
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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☄ Helpfulby John T 2014/05/28 21:24:00
A recent find is dragging items from the FX bin to the PC gets you an automatic FX Chain with your Effect in it.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/28 21:10:01
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My all time favorite is the ability to record directly to a track. As odd as it may seem not all DAWs can do this. Another is freeze as implemented in Sonar. True it was not the first to have this but in my view it has not been improved on by anyone else. Its versatile.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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Another favorite feature of mine is the step sequencer....awesome sauce.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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This may not seem like much, but it's a little trick that I like to do on occasion. Sometimes I like a slow, long delay just on certain words or syllables, but sometimes on the long delays, the intelligibility suffers as it goes on. So, I zoom in on the syllable or word, cut it and paste it on a different track. Then I copy it however many times I want it to repeat, and place them so they're exact with the beat. Then I automate the panning so it alternates hard left and hard right. Then I automate the track volume to fade it to my liking. That way the main vocal retains it's original quality, but I can use this trick to bring out certain words/syllables without losing the clear quality as the delay fades out.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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I remixed a song one time using a 2 second delay, the results were stunningly beautiful. It made the song sound like two separate people were singing it, one delayed.....the timing of the song worked out perfectly.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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☄ Helpfulby Grem 2014/05/28 23:06:56
As trivial as this may seem, it's something I use on every midi editing session: Using Keyboard command "[" and"]" (square brackets) to enter +10 or -10 increments in the Event Inspector, Note Properties data fields. . . . it also works for entering + octave and - octave entries. This has always worked in Cakewalk products, even though it is not assigned in Keyboard Shortcuts.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/28 23:14:26
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Scrub tool. I bet many don't know it even exists the feature is so hidden.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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Here's one: Length - I use that fairly often, and most typically for runs on a piano, or a harp. I'll run my finger over an octave or two of notes, wanting to run into the next section of a piece, but it'll come out short or too long. Lasso the notes in PRV, and by selecting to change the start times, usually not the length of the notes, I'll take a guess at what percentage will make the run end up where I actually wanted it. It usually takes a few tries, but it doesn't take long to make that dramatic run more effectively in the pocket. Kinda cool hmm? Another common usage for it is to play something like a timpani roll. I'm using a Garritan timpani that has left and right hand strokes two octaves apart - and I'm drumming my little heart out to do the roll, but not concerned with if I'm actually playing it fast enough. With the Length control, I change the clip so it's about half as long. Copy and paste that for how long the roll should be, then sweep through the velocities so I have the build I want. The timing is semi-sloppy and "humanized" since I played the notes, but now the roll is slicker than I could do in real time. Randy B.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/29 00:01:10
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CakeAlexS Scrub tool. I bet many don't know it even exists the feature is so hidden.
Scrub Tool would be a great feature if it worked per take lane. Unfortunately it's a track-based feature so scrubbing a lane plays the other lanes in the track too unless you mute them.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/29 06:04:31
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Yeah, I got to say, I never ever use Cakewalk's implementation of Scrub. It could be I just don't understand it enough. idk.
post edited by gswitz - 2014/05/29 06:19:51
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/29 06:05:41
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As most know I am a huge user of the old standby BOOST11 to punch my mixes, I just know what it does and it does it well and easy. I love the tempo-synced loop browser also. Hey there are some great samples in SONAR PE, get in there and play around! -Shawn
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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I like using the metronome count in function but muted as AD plays while recording. A quick humanize is also to manually record one of the AD kits pieces. Recently I got the percussion pak especially. I like single delays as in the old cakewalk echo/delay. (Bring it back 64bit). A nice and simple way to give a DI'd track or clean synth some depth in the digital world. Usually just over over 50% 3-5 ms time shifts and the like. Good for putting a track further back in the mix. Another is a fairly wet Breverb heavily compressed to contain its spill somewhat with some high and low shelves making it more natural until you automate the panning to get attention.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2014/05/29 19:50:53
Best feature ever added to SONAR was freezing the horizontal scroll when you manually edit an automation envelope during playback. Runner-up: global effects bypass. Most useful effect plugin ever bundled with SONAR: Channel Tools. Most underrated plugin: PerfectSpace. Runner-up: Sonitus Modulator. Most under-appreciated feature: automatic plugin delay compensation. Runners-up: drum maps and slip-edits. Best bundled software instrument: Dimension Pro. Runner-up: Studio Instruments Bass. Most-used feature: CTL-Z.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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I like Sonars way of slip editing with midi. EG: If I drag a short midi sequence from EZ or Superior Drummer to Sonar and need it longer, I just drag it out to the desired length. In the other DAW I use regularly - I have to copy the midi clip over and over because slip editing only works when shortening ... Also - likely because I grew up on Roland Drum machines, the step sequencer is one of my best friends. I know the PRV is very similar and much more powerful, but I'm more at home with the step sequencer. bitflipper Runner-up: global effects bypass.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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☄ Helpfulby Grem 2014/05/29 10:27:19
My favorite underrated plug-in is the Sonitus Multiband compressor. Not only does it have the limit feature so you can do "maximization"-type compressing (as long as you don't take it too far), but if you don't use it as a compressor by setting the ratio at 1:1, it's a great multiband crossover - insert it in the effects bin and solo a band to process only that range of frequencies.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/29 10:08:00
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I also need to give a nod to the draw tool for generating waveforms for automation. It's not just that you can create waveforms (tremolo, anyone?) but that it's so easy to vary the height and phase. The random option does instant sample-and-hold effects, which is also cool. I hardly ever see anyone mention this feature.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/29 10:24:46
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I think Track Templates are under-appreciated in a few ways. Here's a thing I've found handy for recording vocals. Saving a track template with the output set to a bus will also re-create that bus when you insert it in a new project. I've got a template called "Vocal mic in", which is routed to a bus which already has a basic low-cut EQ, the PC2A compressor module and a light reverb on it. Also, the track fires up already armed for record. One really nice detail here is that as you add more vocal tracks, the bus isn't duplicated. Sonar is smart enough to realise it already has that bus. So while laying down multiple vocal tracks, I have a two click method of getting each new track up and ready to record, and already having a compressed and reverb-ed bus for them to run through. Not as you'd use in a final mix, but handy for immediate playback to get some idea of how things are going to sound in the eventual production.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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Right now I am really getting into the Take Lanes/Comping features. Love it. Here's what I have been doing: Select a section of the song like Verse. Set looping for that section. Now hit record with comping mode on. Do about ten takes of whatever it is you doing (vocal, bass, guitar)(yes ten takes, bear with me!) After your done, section off the takes about two - four measures with the comp tool. Now go through the takes and select which section you want to promote. After you have the whole section decided on, copy and paste the promoted track to a different (new) track. Repeat the three steps above using different takes from the first time to promote What you end up with is a lot of variation that can be used throughout the song. I have used it for vocals on chorus, back up vocals, lead fills, drum fills, hi hat parts (works great for this! Very human!). The way I see it, it's use is almost endless. One draw back/concern in this method: When you copy and paste the promoted track to a new track, all ten takes come with it. I have a method/work around for eliminating it.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/29 10:30:55
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John T One really nice detail here is that as you add more vocal tracks, the bus isn't duplicated. Sonar is smart enough to realise it already has that bus. So while laying down multiple vocal tracks, I have a two click method of getting each new track up and ready to record, and already having a compressed and reverb-ed bus for them to run through.
Great tip, I'll be making that part of my workflow immediately! Another track template coolness is I have one set up with multiband distortion for guitar - one track, four buses for the split into four bands (see above regarding the tip on the multiband compressor), TH2 inserted, optimized ProChannel settings, etc. all ready to rock.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2014/05/29 19:47:46
I like to undock the browser, go to the VST plugin and open up the controller assignment to add automation knobs for the synth.
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/29 10:44:18
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Anderton I also need to give a nod to the draw tool for generating waveforms for automation. It's not just that you can create waveforms (tremolo, anyone?) but that it's so easy to vary the height and phase. The random option does instant sample-and-hold effects, which is also cool. I hardly ever see anyone mention this feature.
Must try this. Thanks!
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
2014/05/29 11:20:48
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arachnaut I like to undock the browser, go to the VST plugin and open up the controller assignment to add automation knobs for the synth.
WOW!! I never knew this!! Opens up a new world!! Thanks!!! Found out that you can also put it (the undocked browser) in the multidock!!
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Re: What's Your Favorite Underrated Sonar Feature or Technique?
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☄ Helpfulby BCnSTL 2014/05/29 16:45:30
The ability to bounce arpreggiator to midi notes that can be edited. Arpreggiators are great but can be stiff and monotonous. Being able to instantly render out all that is heard from pressing one note or chord opens a lot of flexible ways to edit and add variety.
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