EDIT: I hate this forum software. As Rain pointed out on the first page (and Firefox won't let me quote), the OP is the same person wrote just a couple of days ago a post saying how awesome Studio One was. So, folks, everything points to this being a trolling post.

Frankly I don't want another plugin or some marketing hype calling a fluffed up GUI "Daw 2.0" - total loss of faith there for me. I am tired of pro channel, mastering plugins, percussion and channel strips, etc. I'll choose my own plugins thank you, from vendors who specialize in plugins! Cakewalk, you make a DAW! Please specialize in that first, and season to taste with that other stuff once the core is nailed down! Have some focus, and roll me out a concise, elegant, robust and tested, powerful and flexible DAW environment with all the fat trimmed off but none of the power of versions past removed (these are not mutually exclusive items even though X1 seems to think so). If all these new DAW companies on the block can spend 2-3 years to make these smooth little programs that are catching so fast in features (in fact Reaper and Studio One are really on CW heels these days) and surpassing CW in some areas- why cannot Cake, who are essentially on version 20ish, bring something to the table to decimate these upstarts?

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Frankly I don't want another plugin or some marketing hype calling a fluffed up GUI "Daw 2.0" - total loss of faith there for me. I am tired of pro channel, mastering plugins, percussion and channel strips, etc. I'll choose my own plugins thank you, from vendors who specialize in plugins! Cakewalk, you make a DAW! Please specialize in that first, and season to taste with that other stuff once the core is nailed down! Have some focus, and roll me out a concise, elegant, robust and tested, powerful and flexible DAW environment with all the fat trimmed off but none of the power of versions past removed (these are not mutually exclusive items even though X1 seems to think so). If all these new DAW companies on the block can spend 2-3 years to make these smooth little programs that are catching so fast in features (in fact Reaper and Studio One are really on CW heels these days) and surpassing CW in some areas- why cannot Cake, who are essentially on version 20ish, bring something to the table to decimate these upstarts?

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As an owner of X1C and a growing number of 3rd party VSTs, I agree.  But you're missing a very key aspect from CW's perspective.  I can certainly remember when I was shopping for my first DAW.  All those extras were *very* important, because I was starting with nothing.  If CW wants to grow it's customer base, it must continue to offer an all-in-one package.  Those new customers, or at least many of them, will one day become more sophisticated and well equiped and will say the same things about not wanting CW to waste it's efforts on plugs as you're saying.  But it's those plugs that are essential in attracting new users, and it's in our best interests that CW continue to grow.

There were a couple of webcasts yesterday. They mainly focused on Melodyne, comping, audio quantize and freeze.

They mention over  100 new features/enhancements. Sound on Sound published the following:
http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=14328

Here you go...

http://studioone.presonus.com/

Bit, a demo has been up for over a day now on their site, you can download that and test it out.

easier said than done.


this is what I get.
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The question remains: am I willing to spend $500 to switch to a product whose main lure is that it's not X1?

it's $99 Bit.

it's $99 Bit.

Please elaborate!

Well, I downloaded the demo and did the install (no prob). The only gotta I heard about was to not accept the installer offer to pull in your V1 settings (if you do, Melodyne squeaks and pretends that you don't have a licensed copy of Melodyne).

After opening V2 for the first time, it scanned the VST folder and found everything just dandy (including Melodyne). I even had my BCF2000s working after a bit of experimenting - need to use HUI mode (I now have a 24 channel control with three of these - sweet) V2 hardware integration works much cleaner than ACT - I had my BCR2000 working with V1 - love those knobs.

Played around with Melodyne/ARA interaction and it works as advertised - quite nice actually. Glad to see they now have folders (and groups).  Played around pulling a midi sequence out of an audio track and no problems creating a midi track to drive another instrument. Did some quantize of tracks and all worked as advertised. The track layers are easy to work with and creating a final project on the project page seems to be a great time saver (being able to jump back and tweak a track in a tune and then move back to the final project and have everything update is very smooth).

Only played around for about an hour but never cracked the manual. Before I decided to call it a night, I was wondering why things seemed different, then I realized - not one crash - things worked as advertised - period. Yes the interface is different and there are similar features in X1, but it was nice to think about music and not trying to figure out why something is not working and trying to save before the next crash.

I plan to dive in more this weekend and will probably upgrade by next week. I was planning on going for E X P A N D E D, but now I think I will spend my allowance on V2 - it's a no brainer for $99. Oh yea, I am still on XP 32 bit SP2 quad core Asus MOBO.

I seem to be able to download everything EXCEPT the main WIN program files.  I get a windows web page error.

Dave its $200 from Artsit to Studio One Pro version 2. (using the $100 upgrade from Artist to Pro 1 and then $100 from pro 1 to pro 2) Pro, even V1 is a lot better than Artist by the way so judging it on Artist is unfair. This already program has got better. I am someone who has made a complete switch for the last year in fact. It has never crashed once in this time. All worked flawlessley espeically in a pro work situation. It won't hold you back making great music.

There are 100 improvements not three. They have taken a long time to do it and it would have been bullet tested by now. This patch will work perfectly. There won't be the need for a series of corrective patches.  They have made some serious improvements without sacraficing the lean aspect of the software.

The integration with hardware such as the Presonus digital mixers is quite incredible and it is good to have a software package that has that potential even for later. The digital mixer Studio One link is very strong and only getting better. At a time perhaps where something like the V700C could be seen to be moving away slightly if anything from X1.

I like the concept of giving you 4 great instruments and letting you get the extra ones you need and a supply of great useable plugins but you can grow that part of your software to suit your needs and choose much more expensive and better sounding plugins (than most bundled plugins) like expensive limiters and EQ's etc..

kurrykid


There is also a crossgrade version available: If you own any other major DAW, but would like to switch over to the most intuitive recording software on the planet, the Studio One Crossgrade was created just for you. All you need to do is provide a copy of the UPC code or original purchase receipt for the “other DAW” in an email to crossgrade@presonus.com. Upon approval you will be issued a coupon code, which you can then use to purchase Studio One Professional for the Crossgrade price of $299 USD.

For real? This might make the decision of switching easier for me. Is this limited time offer?

bitflipper

it's $99 Bit.

Please elaborate!

Studio One Artist Version 1 or 2 to Producer 2 Upgrade 
                             $99.00

lowdown


Been using the Demo since yesterday - not one crash, freeze, strange goings on, or any disaster.
Feels tight & solid.
No staff view for me - but hey not the end of the world.
Really, really easy learning curve with very easy dragging and dropping from the browser without
Glitching, stopping or spitting at me.
In short - fills you [me] with confidence. You can just get on and make Music.


If you are hanging out in this thread, you might have some interest in S1/2,
So give the Demo a run - Good stuff.

How's the MIDI editing possibilities...? Many options or just the basic ones? Can you easily draw (with envelopes) automation data for anything?

hellogoodbye

lowdown


Been using the Demo since yesterday - not one crash, freeze, strange goings on, or any disaster.
Feels tight & solid.
No staff view for me - but hey not the end of the world.
Really, really easy learning curve with very easy dragging and dropping from the browser without
Glitching, stopping or spitting at me.
In short - fills you [me] with confidence. You can just get on and make Music.


If you are hanging out in this thread, you might have some interest in S1/2,
So give the Demo a run - Good stuff.

How's the MIDI editing possibilities...? Many options or just the basic ones? Can you easily draw (with envelopes) automation data for anything?

I've come to be careful w/ my assertions in regards to MIDI functionalities because "basic" doesn't mean the same thing for everyone. When I work in Logic, which has one of the most complete set of tools, I use most of them BUT to maybe a 10th of their capacity in certain cases. Someone may use only half of these but to their full capacity.

One feature that I use all the time in Logic is selection by filter. I couldn't seem to locate an equivalent in my dabbling w/ S1 version 1. On the other hand, for some reason, I hardly ever used it in Sonar. Maybe because it isn't as straight forward and readily available.  Meaning that I can live w/o it in S1.

Yes you can automate modulation and such via envelopes. Even in the piano roll, CCs are displayed as an envelope (unlike in Sonar).