Will there be an X1E bugfix update before or after X2 is released?

Highly unlikely.

Nope. However I'm not sure what bugs there are to fix at this point. When I joined the forum there were still a lot of threads about bugs but they seemed to pertain mostly to the C patch. I haven't seen too many ACTUAL and legitimate bug complaints pertaining to D and I personally haven't encountered any yet... although I haven't really opened her up. I'm sure there are probably a couple little things that could be fixed but from what I've seen here any of the issues with the D patch are either user/hardware error or some really obscure thing that only an extreme power user or specialist would encounter. Cheers.

I am curious though... what bugs? I'd like to know what and where they are so I can avoid them or if I stumble across one I don't waste a bunch of time trying to figure out if I'm doing something wrong. Also potential workaraounds or links to threads detailing bugs and workarounds would be great too. Genuinely interested. Cheers.

That's the Roland/Cakewalk way.

 
Isn't that the way of just about every DAW manufacturer out there?   I don't think Cakewalk is any exception on this regard... at all.
 

I'm upgrading to X2..  I'm sure they fixed some bugs...  Software is a living breathing, ever changing product..  Its different than a microwave...  When was the last time, "Panasonic," sent a tech to update your ten year old microwave...

As if Cubase has no bugs...  LMFAO..  its one thing to buy it, if you want it, but to pretend its, "bug free."  The first thing you learn about Cubase is how to save your project file..  trust me on that

@matt... Thanks. Actually do recall seeing some people having a hard time with some automation stuff. Haven't really gotten too crazy yet with that stuff myself though. Just basic volume/gain so no dealing with big piles of spaghetti yet. I do like the look of those automation lanes though... also the take lanes. Much cleaner and easier to work with from the looks of it.

"As if Cubase has no bugs...  LMFAO..  its one thing to buy it, if you want it, but to pretend its, "bug free." 


As if I ever said it didnt... Wow you sure assume a hellova lot dont you... I mention another host and you need yer meds again Phase... I NEVER EVER stated that Cubase or ANY OTHER software including X1 or the up coming X2 is or EVER will be bug free. Did I? But Cubase's last update is nice, and worth the look. Its also very stable (6.5x) for alot of users according to the many forums Ive read. So Slurp your spews elsewhere. Thanks for the software lesson. I was loading software in a Vic 20 with a cassette recorder when you were just a twinkle in yer daddys eye... And If it pisses you off because of the mentioned issues in X1 when it was released,  and it obviously bothered you that I said as much here because of the retorts and snot bubbles from you, to the point it made you feel you had to mouth off because of all the unfairness in the world to date (and other hosts mentioned here) ,  then all I can say to you is (and you can Trust me on this Phase)......., goooood.....    Im LMFAO about that too...   Now, relax. These arn't the droids your looking for.   

mikey


"As if Cubase has no bugs...  LMFAO..  its one thing to buy it, if you want it, but to pretend its, "bug free." 


As if I ever said it didnt... Wow you sure assume a hellova lot dont you... I mention another host and you need yer meds again Phase... I NEVER EVER stated that Cubase or ANY OTHER software including X1 or the up coming X2 is or EVER will be bug free. Did I? But Cubase's last update is nice, and worth the look. Its also very stable (6.5x) for alot of users according to the many forums Ive read. So Slurp your spews elsewhere. Thanks for the software lesson. I was loading software in a Vic 20 with a cassette recorder when you were just a twinkle in yer daddys eye... And If it pisses you off because of the mentioned issues in X1 when it was released,  and it obviously bothered you that I said as much here because of the retorts and snot bubbles from you, to the point it made you feel you had to mouth off because of all the unfairness in the world to date (and other hosts mentioned here) ,  then all I can say to you is (and you can Trust me on this Phase)......., goooood.....    Im LMFAO about that too...   Now, relax. These arn't the droids your looking for.   

Wow, who need their meds ?. Touchy touchy ...
From what I read in the thread ... the pot calls the kettle black.
A bit comical aye :-)
LMFAOT

Never in the history of SONAR has CW ever patched an older version once a new version has been announced. Of course that does not mean it will not happen but I suspect the staff will be busy addressing issues introduced by X2 in addition to problems grandfather in and then there is the ever increasing list of feature requests for X3 just a year or so away.

Oh I see.. Your defending the jerk that I was being another jerk to?

Thank you doctor Cliffr . Ill take two pots and see your kettle in the morning...  

As far as getting X2, I will also be downloading it and using it along side of Cubase. Oh my...,  there IS that ugly word again. Please no whips this time...

scook


Never in the history of SONAR has CW ever patched an older version once a new version has been announced. Of course that does not mean it will not happen but I suspect the staff will be busy addressing issues introduced by X2 in addition to problems grandfather in and then there is the ever increasing list of feature requests for X3 just a year or so away.

I'm not an expert on how this stuff is done, but if they fix some of the bugs from X1 in X2, couldn't they then put those fixes into a separate patch for the X1 users to download and install...? Or is that dumb?

Anything is possible, but if the past is any indication of how they will act in the future, do not count on changes being made to previous versions of their products once a new product announcement has been made.

@ Steve, I even have my wallpaper loaded up and waiting lol.



Mike

mikey

1. Take people away from working on the X2 update, for a product that is at its life cycle end point monetarily speaking.

2. Make the X2 update less nifty for us to purchase since fixing X1 with these new fixes/items, meaning less money and food on the table for the bakers. They gotta eat too ya know... 


Its all about new 1's and 0's and bank account amounts now, for future X's of course... 

Thanks Mikey! I hear ya, but just for clarity:
 
1. It wouldn't be taking any staff away from X2 development since the X1 bugs would be worked out as part of the development of X2, no? I'm just saying couldn't they then take that batch of fixed code and make another X1 patch from it (although another poster did explain why that wouldn't necessarily be possible if the fixed code incorporated new coding that's specific to X2 that X1 wouldn't understand—or something).
 
2. I don't think it would make X2 any "less nifty" to any potential X2 customers since there's always the new bells and whistles and new UI enhancements every new version entices previous users with that are unrelated to important fixes.
 
And even then there's no guarantee that certain bugs will even BE fixed in X2, since there are still some bugs following each new version that have been lurking in the code since the Pro Audio days.
 
Look how long Microsoft supported XP, even right through development and release of Vista and Windows 7. In fact I think I read support for XP won't end until 2014.

There sure as hell NEEDS to be one. X1 d killed fastbaouncing of timecode based plugins (antare, melodyne, gtr rig, waves) Takes more than twice as long to bounce everything. Still can't drag a midi effect from clip to clip or clip to bin. Can't delete a clip with a midi effect on it. Still have reberb tails pasted on the beginnings of song exports. Half the time transients are detected that aren't even there (every quarternote). Have to revert to 8.53 for reliable transient detection. Plugin delay compensation problems. Cakewalk needs to take responsibility for what THEY BROKE in X1D. I've been writing and calling since March about all of the screwed up issues. I officially stopped recommending Sonar as of X1. Customer service sucks!! When I called and asked when Fastbouncing timecode plugins be fixed, They said, 'it's fixed in X2'. I said, 'Oh great, when are you fixing it in X1?' They told me that they weren't fixing X1. Complete --BULL**** There's been plenty of time to take care of the customers that only want what they've already paid for... a working product, Not a substandard piece of crap. Continuing down a path of COMPLETE disregard of the professional customers WILL result in the DOWNFALL and DEMISE of CAKEWALK.