Hmm... I think $50,- is not that much. I just upgraded a while ago from Rapture LE to Rapture full, and that was costing more. As I am living in the Netherlands, I wonder what the price will be in Euro's.

I was just wondering if this upgrade is a download version or a boxed version. As I do not own a credit card (credit cards are not that easy to get in the Netherlands - the criteria to get one are a bit harsh), I have to purchase the upgrade from one of the on-line shops here. Normally they only sell boxed versions...

Anyway - I think I will upgrade..

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

 
Maybe it's not good for an acoustic folk duo...

I'll take that as a personal challenge
 
 

$50 doesn't seem out of line for a major version upgrade of a softsynth -- going from Absynth 4 to 5 cost around $75 if i recall correctly (and that may have been a sale price).

Of course it's not worth it if you don't like or don't use Z3ta+ (or both)...but for someone (like me) who does electronic music and is always looking for new sounds, $50 sounds like an ok price for substantial new features (and it looks like the -2 version does deliver in that regard).

Z3ta+ is a very powerful softsynth, if you don't mind getting your hands dirty in terms of creating your own patches.

Regards
Glenn

JClosed


Hmm... I think $50,- is not that much. I just upgraded a while ago from Rapture LE to Rapture full, and that was costing more. As I am living in the Netherlands, I wonder what the price will be in Euro's.

or £

as much as cakewalk is US based... pricing would be good across the board...

I actually have trouble sleeping over this...

I'm so much looking forward to the second incarnation of z3ta+. Years ago when I started a collab project studio with a buddy of mine, he had z3ta+ and I was blown away by it. I belive this was even before Cakewalk bought the thing. I abused it so much that I actually learned to program my own patches using that particular synth. After knowing how to do that I moved on to program patches in other synths as well. After it was included in Sonar I kept using it wherever I went, I'd sit in parks, on planes, in various studios etc just messing with it and abusing it to the max and creating some pretty cool stuff - that even has paid a bill or two! But eventually I stoped using it, probably because there were other intersting things coming out. But it's been my go to synth when everything else fails up until this day.
 
I recently upgraded to the full version of Rapture as well and it absolutely kick arse! I am so annoyed I didn't upgrade sooner... But now I have it and am absolutely thrilled over how it sounds!

So yes, I will be upgrading to z3ta+2 as soon as I can! What I've seen of it so far makes me drool in anticipation and I can't wait to integrate it into my go-to arsenal again.
 
BTW: I've even used it in a dixie land-ish tune, creating a bucket bass patch. Killer fun!

Yes, I will definitely be among the first in line to buy Z3TA+2.

Keni

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

InstrEd

That's just not accurate.

Inside information  -  Spill the beans

Well the separate PRV snap for one...but that's already been mentioned. And I think I've hijacked this thread now.

Yeah, but what a great hijack! I hadn't seen the confimation regarding the snap issue Many thanks for that one!

YES!!!  Wow, first, NI gives me 3 free Kore soundpacks, now my one major beef with X1 is going to be resolved!  This day keeps getting better and better!  I guess it's all downhill from here.

cryophonik

Keni

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

InstrEd

That's just not accurate.

Inside information  -  Spill the beans

Well the separate PRV snap for one...but that's already been mentioned. And I think I've hijacked this thread now.

Yeah, but what a great hijack! I hadn't seen the confimation regarding the snap issue Many thanks for that one!

YES!!!  Wow, first, NI gives me 3 free Kore soundpacks, now my one major beef with X1 is going to be resolved!  This day keeps getting better and better!  I guess it's all downhill from here.

Glad it was a good one for you... Mine was mixed... Everything kept me away from work all day being "too busy"... But the snap fix is more to me than simply the fix itself as benstat's Sonar Plus already took the sting out of the snap.... ;-) But it will be good to have "proper" dual settings once again as we had in the past (or better?)...

I'm hoping they addressed the envelope and event filter issues too... That would go a long way for me.

But the fact that they did accept the need for the dual settings once again revived some of my hope that maybe they'll adress a few of these other "important" (to me) issues too....  I know I think of "simple fixes" but realize that they are often not as simple as it might appear....

This z3ta+ 2 upgrade seems very nice unto itself... and I have no problem related to the cost tho I understand some always think they should get a gift for their suffering... ;-)

Too bad they didn't interface the ProChannel more as they have the z3ta! ;-)

Keni

Jumbicat


I won't be upgrading.  I've really never used it so not aware of it's potential. IMO, it should be free to existing customers. 

but the original is what, 4+ years old now ? it's a bit like asking my car dealership to look after my car 10 years down the line ( should I try that ? :) )

I bought it stand alone, and then again later as part of sonar... the price later will be more.

as much as people go on about les pauls / gibsons etc.. I'm more a synth head.. so to some people thats like their equivalent

generally I find people dismissive / closed to some  of things on here.. seriously "mess" about with things.. you'd be surprised what use you will find for them..

I don't play guitar.. doesn't mean I won't use the fx angle guitar rig for other things etc.

even if it's folk combo.. it could be used to do drones  / pads... the people who most people like musically, didn't and don't stick to the rules "musically" even if it seems that way.

I just think it's a bit of an ask for a freebie, they put dev time into it.. much like you go to work / get paid

Fog


I just think it's a bit of an ask for a freebie, they put dev time into it.. much like you go to work / get paid

I agree... and tho Cakewalk owns it, it's a separate product. Nice that a version was included with Sonar... I remember the VSampler synth that came bundled with a Sonar version... I bought the full upgrade and again later upgraded it as I appreciated the product. To me it's the same for the z3ta+...

Not to argue the point, but how long it took to give shows how solid a device it is where it wasn't needed.... but that doesn't mean the new features and such aren't very good tools in the hands of those who decide to use them artistically...

So yes, while I'm primarily a guitarist, these days I consider my main instrument "the studio" and the guitar, drums, bass, synths or any other devices to be extensions of my toolset... and I can't have too many tools... I own a few guitars, a number of hardware synths and a number of software synths... Often some of them don't get used... or at least for long periods (years?) but I'm still glad that I have them because I remember the instruments that have passed thru my hands over the years that I no longer have and admonish myself for ever letting go of them! ;-)

Many years ago I did a lot of specialized synth work and sound design and I know that each device has it's own character... Having and chosing the right one(s) can be a big part of getting work doen well and quickly...

This update seems to be aimed at just that... Making the use of a great device even better/easier... and relatively (?) inexpensive!

Keni

Fog

Jumbicat


I won't be upgrading.  I've really never used it so not aware of it's potential. IMO, it should be free to existing customers. 

 

I don't play guitar.. doesn't mean I won't use the fx angle guitar rig for other things etc.

even if it's folk combo.. it could be used to do drones  / pads... the people who most people like musically, didn't and don't stick to the rules "musically" even if it seems that way.

Oh so true.

I'm sure I'll take the upgrade. I've hardly touched the original, but did spend some time with it one night,
which was enough for me to see it's potential. It's one of those things I've been meaning to come back to,
but there's been too much pressure on my time to get around to it.

I'm sure there will be many happy takers for this one.

Cheers - Cliff

I'd pay $400+ if it blew away Omnisphere...  that's kinda in the same price range, if you're thinking "blow money" on an instrument.

actually it sounds interesting ...in the fact they picked up this ball and ran with it.  I think this synth is 'kinda' consistant with the music the cake musicians that frequent this board, use and the way sonar seems "kinda" leaning towards.... with the step sequencer, matrix and all that jazz.

I like the comments of using it for other stuff than the expected mainstream trance and dance that people will probably use this more for though.

I will be. I love the original zeta :)

Mod Bod


Nope.  Not something that I'm interested in. 

If Cakewalk had a 64 bit version of a Hammond B3, Wurlitzer Electric Piano, Fender Rhodes, Mellotron, etc. - I'd be interested. 

I'd buy that too!  (if they were good, that is!)