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Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
I know from nothing when it comes to soft sythns. I have a Roland JX8P, Alpha Juno 2, Yamaha DX7, Korg M1 at my disposal. I've tried many of the soft synths that come with X1 and upgraded Dimension Pro, Rapture and Guitar Rig. Will Z3ta+ 2 give me anything significantly different or better than what I have now, or should I use the $50 toward the next paid upgrade??
I have to admit $50 seems steep after the months of X1 anguish but maybe I'm out to lunch.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 13:33:52
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I personally will not be spending 50 dollars on the upgrade. Should be free for all us X1 beta testers.....
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 13:38:22
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No, only because I have no use for it. I've never even opened the Z3ta+ I have in the 6 years I've been using Sonar.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 13:40:48
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I just posted about this on cakewalks FB wall. Since Z3ta+1.5 is free with Sonar X1 producer anyway it should be included for free in the X1c update IMO.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 13:54:54
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No. I've never cared for Z3ta+. IMO the presets suck and I rely on tweaking presets to build my synth patches.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 13:58:37
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If it's worth it I''ll pay for it. It's only the price of half a tank of gas here.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:01:36
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Rasure
I just posted about this on cakewalks FB wall. Since Z3ta+1.5 is free with Sonar X1 producer anyway it should be included for free in the X1c update IMO.
Ah, so does that mean my Toyota dealer will let me trade in my 2005 Tundra for a 2012 model for free?
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:05:25
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Did you have to wait three months after you bought your toyota for a bugfix so you could drive it...........
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:05:27
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Z3TA for $50 is a good deal - if you use soft synths. There are a lot of (free) patches around, tho mainly dance stuff. but it will do other sounds and is very programmable. Some interesting controls.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:07:10
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Did you have to wait three months after you bought your toyota for a bugfix so you could drive it...........
I could drive X1 from day 1. This message board is the definition of 'entitlement'.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:07:50
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I just posted about this on cakewalks FB wall. Since Z3ta+1.5 is free with Sonar X1 producer anyway it should be included for free in the X1c update IMO.
Ah, so does that mean my Toyota dealer will let me trade in my 2005 Tundra for a 2012 model for free?
Hardly the same thing is it now!  Since its free with sonar prducer X1 anyway and since alot of us bought X1 in good faith when it first came out with all the bugs and all, it should be with X1c
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:08:54
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I just posted about this on cakewalks FB wall. Since Z3ta+1.5 is free with Sonar X1 producer anyway it should be included for free in the X1c update IMO.
Ah, so does that mean my Toyota dealer will let me trade in my 2005 Tundra for a 2012 model for free?
Hardly the same thing is it now! Since its free with sonar prducer X1 anyway and since alot of us bought X1 in good faith when it first came out with all the bugs and all, it should be with X1c
Here's a better analogy. I just bought a new Gibson Les Paul with some steel strings. I don't like them, they have to be defective. Gibson should now supply me with nickel strings forever.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:15:40
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Z3ta+ worked in Sonar. I don't see why an upgrade of it, which has doubtless cost the company a few bucks in development, should be free.
Besides, X1c is coming out in August as a free upgrade.
Early adopters (like me) take chances that there may be issues when we go for the latest version hot off the press. That's just the way it is. In the software world, if you want absolute stability, wait a while.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:16:03
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I don't like them, they have to be defective.
That analogy is dumber than the first one. I love X1 when it works. Unfortunately it didn't work till X1b.
I would say the fact there was an X1A and X1B would be a good indicator there were bugs at release...did you see the fix list.
Did they have to release a fix for the guitar strings. Sorry but your thought process is ridiculous
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:20:47
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Just to make things clear, the upgrade for existing Z3ta+ owners, including those who got it via purchasing SONAR, is $50. The price for new customers will be released shrotly. SP EDIT: Corrected wrong pricing information. Sorry! 
post edited by Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk] - 2011/07/06 14:44:56
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:21:27
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Paul Russell
Z3ta+ worked in Sonar. I don't see why an upgrade of it, which has doubtless cost the company a few bucks in development, should be free.
Besides, X1c is coming out in August as a free upgrade.
Early adopters (like me) take chances that there may be issues when we go for the latest version hot off the press. That's just the way it is. In the software world, if you want absolute stability, wait a while.
Sorry Paul ... but X1C is not an 'upgrade'. It's a 'patch' to fix bugs. There's a big difference.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:25:38
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Just to make things clear, the upgrade for existing Z3ta+ owners, including those who got it via purchasing SONAR, is not $50. The upgrade will be more like $20.
SP
Thats a bit more like it;-) thanks for clearing that up.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:30:57
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Thanks Seth I'll upgrade for 20.00.......
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:30:59
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Just to make things clear, the upgrade for existing Z3ta+ owners, including those who got it via purchasing SONAR, is not $50. The upgrade will be more like $20.
SP
Seth, thanks; I know you need to bring some income, so a little cash for a great synth is no big deal for the ones who likes and uses it. I hope you do it for Dimension too, including an emphasis of making its Preset Management more friendly.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:31:49
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Thanks Seth, I'll re-read the email Watch the new Z3TA+ 2 video promo and sign up for immediate notification
Z3TA+ 2 is coming this July and you can check out the first promotional video which shows off just a few of its new features. Z3TA+ 2 will be available as an upgrade to existing customers via download for only $49 and will also be available to new customers (price TBD). If you want to be notified as soon as Z3TA+ 2 is available, please fill-out the form right below the video section. Okay, where am I getting confused??? "Mother, more Gordon's!"
post edited by ampfixer - 2011/07/06 14:34:14
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:35:09
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Just to make things clear, the upgrade for existing Z3ta+ owners, including those who got it via purchasing SONAR, is not $50. The upgrade will be more like $20.
SP
Hi Seth Your statement differs from this announcement: Z3TA+ 2 will be available as an upgrade to existing customers via download for only $49 and will also be available to new customers (price TBD). I enjoy using Z3TA+ and anticipate the Z3TA+ 2 release..... whether it be $49 or $20 (either price seems fair). I don't understand the complaints from some folks..... You wanna play?.... You need to pay. Otherwise, you're in the wrong business or need to find a new hobby. Just my .02 cents worth.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:36:06
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I hope that clears things up a bit for you guys. The $50 price tag will be for upgrade customers. Of course, since most, if not all of you, own one version or another of SONAR Producer, you will of course qualify for the $50 upgrade price. SP EDIT: corrected wrong pricing information.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:40:01
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Wow $50 is a great price for new users. I imagine it will be pretty popular at that price.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:41:38
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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Just to make things clear, the upgrade for existing Z3ta+ owners, including those who got it via purchasing SONAR, is not $50. The upgrade will be more like $20.
SP
Hi Seth
Your statement differs from this announcement:
Z3TA+ 2 will be available as an upgrade to existing customers via download for only $49 and will also be available to new customers (price TBD).
I enjoy using Z3TA+ and anticipate the Z3TA+ 2 release..... whether it be $49 or $20 (either price seems fair). I don't understand the complaints from some folks..... You wanna play?.... You need to pay. Otherwise, you're in the wrong business or need to find a new hobby. Just my .02 cents worth.
Ack, you are right! My apologies to all of you. I spoke out of turn and misunderstood some information I was given the other day. My bad, guys. Didn't mean to misinform any of you (editing my previous posts so as to not cause confusion). To be clear, the upgrade is $50 and the price for new customers is yet to be determined. Again, sorry for the confusion (ducking). Too much information thrown at me the other day. [:D SP
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:49:53
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No. I've never cared for Z3ta+. IMO the presets suck and I rely on tweaking presets to build my synth patches.
Wow this is surprising to me, but I guess it depends on what kind of music you do. There are tons of great patches out there for Z3TA. To my ears, even the presets don't suck at all. I have often wow'd folks using those presets. 
post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2011/07/06 14:51:30
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 14:53:50
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Sorry Paul ... but X1C is not an 'upgrade'. It's a 'patch' to fix bugs. There's a big difference.
That's just not accurate.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 15:13:44
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That's just not accurate. Inside information - Spill the beans 
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 15:15:11
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That's just not accurate.
Inside information - Spill the beans
Well the separate PRV snap for one...but that's already been mentioned. And I think I've hijacked this thread now. 
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 15:31:54
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Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50? Not me. But that's only because I don't use it much. It's not that I don't like it - it's as good as many soft synths that sell for much more - it just doesn't fit my style, which leans more toward acoustic and sampled acoustic instruments. When I do use electronic sounds, I usually turn to my outboard hardware synths. Will Z3ta+ 2 give me anything significantly different or better than what I have now? Given your current collection of hardware synths, I'd say "not much". Still, for those who are seriously into electronic music, they're always on the hunt for something different, even if only a little bit different. They tend to collect synths obsessively. They also seem to hold Z3ta+ in high regard.
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Re:Will you upgrade to Z3ta+ 2 for $50?
2011/07/06 15:37:54
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Wow this is surprising to me, but I guess it depends on what kind of music you do. No it doesn't. Z3ta Rules ;) - I've used Z3ta on all sorts of music - and I mean all sorts: from fattening basslines in Beatles-esque rock stuff to dark electro to out-of-this-world sound effects. That synth and the myriads of presets offer great starting points for all kind of stuff. P Of course, everyone's entitled to their opinion and tastes. :)
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