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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 10:12:55
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TerraSin
Going to anyway.
XP = clunky, no support, terrible interface compared to what 7/8 offer and God help you if you put the machine online and have stuff on it you don't want getting out because 0Day exploits were enmass. People who have the know how can now enter your system with no issue at all. This alone is why I refuse to work on company computers that have XP on it as it's a liability for me.
none of what you just said makes any sense to me. i'm cruising along at light speed, creating and capturing performances at will, and it plays it back marvelously. i post stuff all the time, that shows where i'm at with it.... so, i think your experience must be unique.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 11:42:36
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XP, in itself, is not bad. But, Win 7 is a "better" OS than XP. Whether Win 10 will be a better OS than Win7 or Win 8/8.1???? time will tell. I don't see a lot of corporate systems being upgraded to Win 10. Many just spent big chunks of $$ converting from XP to Win 7 and new Win 7 compatible applications software and training. The Enterprise versions of Win 7/8/8.1 which are used by many corporate computer systems are not included in the free upgrade.
However, XP is "potentially" less secure and open to malware/spyware, etc, more that newer OS's. The Internet was still growing when XP was released in 2002 and much of the potential malware/viruses were non existent and XP was never designed to combat them. They have upgraded things with Service Packs, security updates, etc but its still not as secure as newer OS'. Microsoft has now discontinued updates for XP. Windows 7 is really to some degree in the same boat. They have discontinued updating the OS. There are still some security updates being issued and Win 7 has until 2020 before its totally stopped being supported at all, just like XP was last year.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 12:31:46
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heh,
i never updgrade my software once i get it stable,
and it is not connected to the internet.
so,
what am i missing again?
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 13:09:51
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If you're happy with it and more importantly, it's not connected to the internet, then stick with it. My experience is far from unique. I couldn't imagine going back to XP.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 13:13:22
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☄ Helpfulby Doktor Avalanche 2015/06/09 16:22:06
As long as everything is working the XP will do as you want. However, if there are hardware problems, getting XP compatible hardware replacements could be an issue.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 14:02:58
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yes,
if i want to upgrade certain hardware that is run by newer drivers that must have win7 as a minimum,
then i'm off to the races.
i'll eventually choose to do that...
but more times than not,
i see that folks chase software and associated hardware thinking that THAT is what is going to make a difference in the sound of their mixes, and it probably wont.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 16:19:58
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The amount of times I've been shown a dead server on Windows NT 4 or Server 2000 and they just want me to fix the dead motherboard.... And I tell them they pretty much have to buy a completely new server with new software right now if they want to be up and running.... Leaving them with 3 or 4 day outage  Or roll a dice on ebay...
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 16:39:09
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I like fast. Faster is better. I don't have to be the fastest, but doggone it, I got stuff to do! Being a desktop tech for many years, operating systems don't scare me, as I was certified up to OSX 10 Snow Leopard and Windows 7 Enterprise, and also spent some time with Unix before retiring. I'm liking 10 so far.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 16:55:04
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TerraSin
I went into my update menu and it was on there. Wasn't until I clicked it that I got the icon on the tray.
As in Windows Update? It's not there for me. Are you talking Win 7 Pro? All my Win 7 pro machines are on Service pack 1, Auto Updates on, All up to date, all have been rebooted. Not one Pro machine has the Get Win 10 app in the sys tray or in Windows Update. WTH? As I said before, my Win 7 Home Premium lappy has it.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 17:06:10
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I wonder if it's due to my copies being OEM (albeit legit) on three of the four Pro machines.
However, on my DAW it's a legit MS Win 7 Pro Upgrade and it does not have the Get Win 10 app.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 23:35:58
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bapu
I wonder if it's due to my copies being OEM (albeit legit) on three of the four Pro machines.
However, on my DAW it's a legit MS Win 7 Pro Upgrade and it does not have the Get Win 10 app.
You might need to install the optional updates also.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/09 23:41:37
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bapu
TerraSin
I went into my update menu and it was on there. Wasn't until I clicked it that I got the icon on the tray.
As in Windows Update? It's not there for me. Are you talking Win 7 Pro?
Try forcing it. This is how: Open Control Panel Open Administrative Tools Open Task Scheduler Expand on the left "Task Scheduler Library" Expand Microsoft Expand Windows Scroll down and expand Setup Click the folder "GWXTriggers" On the far right, click "Run" I'm on Windows 8.1 OEM but it should work the same for Win 7.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 00:45:00
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TerraSin
bapu
TerraSin
I went into my update menu and it was on there. Wasn't until I clicked it that I got the icon on the tray.
As in Windows Update? It's not there for me. Are you talking Win 7 Pro?
Try forcing it. This is how:
Open Control Panel
Open Administrative Tools
Open Task Scheduler
Expand on the left "Task Scheduler Library"
Expand Microsoft
Expand Windows
Scroll down and expand Setup
Click the folder "GWXTriggers"
On the far right, click "Run"
I'm on Windows 8.1 OEM but it should work the same for Win 7.
Did it. It installed more updates. Did them all including optional updates. Still no Win 10 App icon. 
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 04:13:09
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 15:09:32
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I'm all in for Windows 10.
I don't understand peoples hate toward Microsoft. If you should hate someone it should be google. They force their marketing through YouTube and such. Collect all user data. Ban Windows apps and make it hard for people using Windows and their stuff. And they are really pricks compared to Microsoft who is opening up now and make their programs available to all platforms.
Just remember. If there was no Microsoft we would certainly not be making music at home at all.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 15:42:46
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Just remember. If there was no Microsoft we would certainly not be making music at home at all.
Because no one ever would have invented another operating system to take it's place? IIRC Windows was originally based on a Xerox OS that Gates asked if he could use and Xerox said "sure".
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 15:46:42
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 17:08:21
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Read history. Microsoft made the way for People to sell software. Without it we would not have had Cakewalk. We would just have super expencive systems made just for making Music. No one would invest any amount in software. Like free software. All the good ideas that newer happends because People dont get paid for writing code. And when they dont feel like it they stop.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 17:42:37
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Jarsve,
We will have to agree to disagree. I don't need to read about computing history. I'm 62 years old and I have been in IT since 1978. That is looooooong before Microsoft developed Windows but just about the time they got (think: stolen) DOS up and running on IBM computers.
Guess what? back then (1978) there were other operating systems the least of which was Unix. If you go back even further in history you will find that before regions/countries were able to communicate and near light speed very similar "inventions" took place over thousands of years. How did that happen? People thought in vaccuums. It's not far fetched to say that if Bill Gates had died in car crash at age 14 someone else would have taken his place and the name may not even be Microsoft, it might be called SpringBoardComputing for all we know.
Based on that knowledge and understanding of history I say Microsoft is *not* the only outcome that enables us to be able to do what we do today. We would be here no matter what. Just some names would be different.
JMO.
BTW, I don't hate Microsoft.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 17:43:59
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Jarsve
Just remember. If there was no Microsoft we would certainly not be making music at home at all.
heheh, the apple people are laughing. thunderbolt and lightning, very very frightening, me
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 18:25:11
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I'm not talking about windows. I'm talking about the business model to make money of an application
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 18:34:53
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☄ Helpfulby Jarsve 2015/06/10 20:06:17
Jarsve
I'm not talking about windows. I'm talking about the business model to make money of an application
Ha ha. So again, MS is the only company in all of history who came up with, or could have come up with, that idea?
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 18:46:10
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 18:51:32
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think i'll stick with xp. 
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 20:05:00
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Jarsve
I'm not talking about windows. I'm talking about the business model to make money of an application
Ha ha. So again, MS is the only company in all of history who came up with, or could have come up with, that idea?
I'm not saying Microsoft was the only one. But they had a great impact in how to be a business of software. Before that time most of it was free
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/10 23:06:29
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Jarsve
I'm not saying Microsoft was the only one. But they had a great impact in how to be a business of software. Before that time most of it was free
Business software was free before Microsoft? I don't remember any free business software before M$. Linux wasn't even around it was Unix and even that demanded a fee.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/11 09:36:38
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Back on topic. Finally got all my Win 7 machines to reserve my copy of Win 10. Yay.
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Re: Windows 10 will be the last OS
2015/06/11 09:56:10
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Sorry for being Nagy yesterday. Was too tired to write online. But nice you all have interest in Windows 10. For me the only downside yet in build 10130 is the mail app. It is still buggy. But if you use outlook that wont be a problem. Now WDM gave me 5,6 msec latency for recording and playback. I didn't try with more than one card tho. I have also a petition in the Insider Hub that they overhaul the WDM code. Feel free to like it there.
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