Working with Buses

I kind of feel bad about this thread being bumbed and all, I'll just put it right back up here where it will get some nice sunshine.

ORIGINAL: cjlinus

When I was a kid we had to use Portastudios, uphill! both ways!!

Ohh, you were lucky..... ...complete luxury in fact.....

We used to dream of recording with a Portastudio.

We used to have to get up in the morning at 11 o'clock at night half an hour before we went to bed and lick the portable radio-cassette player clean with our tongues.....

..... then we'd go down the studio, struggle our way through a forty three hour shift and pay the studio owner for the permission to come to work...... and when we got home, our parents would slice us in two with a bread knife and dance about on our graves singing "Alleluia".








Aye, and you tell that to the young kids of today..........


....... and they won't believe you.












Thanks to Mssrs Cleese, Chapman, Jones, Palin, Gwilliam and Idle for the inspiration - I may put it to music you know

And the people rejoiced.

ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK

ORIGINAL: cjlinus

When I was a kid we had to use Portastudios, uphill! both ways!!

Ohh, you were lucky..... ...complete luxury in fact.....

We used to dream of recording with a Portastudio.

We used to have to get up in the morning at 11 o'clock at night half an hour before we went to bed and lick the portable radio-cassette player clean with our tongues.....

..... then we'd go down the studio, struggle our way through a forty three hour shift and pay the studio owner for the permission to come to work...... and when we got home, our parents would slice us in two with a bread knife and dance about on our graves singing "Alleluia".

Oh, that was simply paradise!


When I was young we would all have to crowd together in the studio. All 150 of us lads. Well it wasn't really a studio but a hole in the motorway with a cardboard roof that holes in it. And on microphone connected to nothing but a an old gramophone. Five of the lads used to have to hold up Timmy to cover the holes in the cardboard while we recorded. And then we had to pay 5 quid an hour for the luxury of recording a single minute of a song. We couldn't even afford instruments so some would make guitar sounds and others would make drum sound (a drum each) and others would make bass sounds.

We would have to record for hours on end for 4 pence every two years. And then when we got home dad would beat us about the head and neck with a broken bottle and mum would cut us in half with a chain saw....



Lads, if you are reading this you need to go to the very first post in this thread. If you have already been there and have found yourself here then you are surely lost.

Well I wasn't going to tell you all this, but to be honest, we had no Portastudio. We used a Realistic 8 track casset and a Mr. Microphone. My mom would gather up the whole bunch of us and send us to the nice folks at Techno Phobe Inc. Where we would all be forced down into the mines or over to the shirt factory where they would make us whistle and sing for the soundtrack of Mickey cartoons, I still shudder every time I see a picture of a dwarf. Then at the end of our 10 year contract all 867.6 of us kids would be sent home where our dad would be waiting to beat us senseless with the rolled up newspaper reviews of the soundtracks. Now what really made it bad was the fact the the whole time, that Jackson family next door kept getting all the credit for tunes we had made up as mom made us practice for the next 10 year contract. Well I can't illiterate as well as others but I think you get the idea that it was a grim place to be. I had just posted the bit about the Portastudio because I like to pretend that I'd had a happy childhood.

Thanks guys for the bringing up old sorrows and woes, I 'll be off to write that next hit song, now that my muse is back.



Alright, so it ain't John freggin' Cleese!!!!!

ORIGINAL: cjlinus

Well I wasn't going to tell you all this, but to be honest, we had no Portastudio. We used a Realistic 8 track casset and a Mr. Microphone. My mom would gather up the whole bunch of us and send us to the nice folks at Techno Phobe Inc. Where we would all be forced down into the mines or over to the shirt factory where they would make us whistle and sing for the soundtrack of Mickey cartoons, I still shudder every time I see a picture of a dwarf. Then at the end of our 10 year contract all 867.6 of us kids would be sent home where our dad would be waiting to beat us senseless with the rolled up newspaper reviews of the soundtracks. Now what really made it bad was the fact the the whole time, that Jackson family next door kept getting all the credit for tunes we had made up as mom made us practice for the next 10 year contract. Well I can't illiterate as well as others but I think you get the idea that it was a grim place to be. I had just posted the bit about the Portastudio because I like to pretend that I'd had a happy childhood.

Thanks guys for the bringing up old sorrows and woes, I 'll be off to write that next hit song, now that my muse is back.



Alright, so it ain't John freggin' Cleese!!!!!

Here's a bump you just cannot refuse.

Bump for fun!!

ORIGINAL: cjlinus

Bump for fun!!

Bumpy road CJ?

I feel a bit of C&W coming on................. yeeeee hah

Steve,

Remember to wear your cowboy hat and chaps when you write a country song, otherwise you may be writing an eighties pop song. I Wanna be a Cowboy!!

EDIT: I had that backwards, DON"T wear the hat and chaps or you might wind up with strange men offering to buy you drinks while your writing an eighties pop song.

Man, we gotta get this thread to page 6.

Kind of makes you feel like this, doesn't it?

pretty much

ORIGINAL: cjlinus

Steve,

Remember to wear your cowboy hat and chaps when you write a country song, otherwise you may be writing an eighties pop song. I Wanna be a Cowboy!!

EDIT: I had that backwards, DON"T wear the hat and chaps or you might wind up with strange men offering to buy you drinks while your writing an eighties pop song.

Hey there CJ - I see you've finally found a pic of Pistolpete!

Get off your milk and drink your horse

Hey Pete! Is that really you? Maybe before you were a big rock star, back in your days in the Thunder from Down Under troop.

ORIGINAL: cjlinus

Hey Pete! Is that really you? Maybe before you were a big rock star, back in your days in the Thunder from Down Under troop.

He seems to have gone all quiet CJ.

Not his normal cheeky self at all

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ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK


Prepare to cringe with THIS PARTICULAR BUMP

Cringe I did! and then had this feeling of really needing to purge me stomoach. I had to run to hospital as well for the sever mental anguish it caused.

A Bump of Chicken for ya

Thanks for letting me use this video clip of you Pete

Here's hoping - Come on Cakewalk!!

ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK


Here's hoping - Come on Cakewalk!!

Maybe they'll do it just to make that stop.

ORIGINAL: RobertB

Maybe they'll do it just to make that stop.

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Come on Cakewalk!!

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ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK

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Come on Cakewalk!!

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Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze

Bipity Bopity Bumpity. You know this is getting quite tiresome.

ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth

Bipity Bopity Bumpity. You know this is getting quite tiresome.

Take it easy mate - let me help out.

Pretty good firts try on the SH7, I'm still fighting with the the idea of upgrading to a more, eh hem, supported cakewalk product. The wife gave me a little spending money and I have enough left to cover the new SHS XL if I want. How is the drum program it ships with?

Back to your song, I've allways liked those grand melodramatic kinds of songs. I love your choice of synth sounds! Your guitar is pretty good too, nice licks. I do, for some reason want to speed the whole thing up and sing the lyrics to Journey's "Seperate Ways" though.

Thanks for your kind words about the tune CJ

That's just a rough mix still - I keep meaning to spend a bit of time polishing it up a bit.

As to HS7, check out THIS THREAD over in the HS forum before you buy mate - a lot of us have found that the program is a bit of a disappointment, it's a more user-friendly and stripped back program than its predecessor, HS6. Cake seem to be squarely aiming the new look HS to newer users it seems.

In fairness to Cakewalk, they've listened to our complaints and they're currently running a special offer upgrade price for HS users on SONAR 8 Studio Edition; HS6 users can upgrade for $99 while those of us with HS7 get the upgrade for just $39.

As to the drums, HS7 and HS7XL come with Cakewalk's Studio Instruments drums, most commentators see this as a downgrade from Session Drummer 2, which came with HS6XL.

It might be worth doing a bit of research before you get HS7XL CJ, just to make certain it has the features you want.

If there's anything specific on HS7XL you want to know, ask away and I'll try to help.

Steve

Thanks Steve for the info. I would really like to get sonar but I don't want to spend the money on just the DAW, I have a couple other toys I want as well. I was kind of hoping that I could incrementally upgrade to sonar producer but if it's worth the extra $$ to do it now I may have to rethink the SHS7 option though. I'll have to get Doc's opinion on the whole matter and maybe even, GULP, spend some time in the SONAR room. Or I could go to the dentist for the same sensory input.

Doc, you want to pipe in on this?

ARRGHH!!! I just went to set up a nice picture of a guy in a dentist chair and freggin IS blocked the site. I may have to break down and actually do work around here just to stem the boredom!!

CJ,

My thought is it might be better to move up to S8SE after hearing all the downsides to SHS7 and SHS7XL. It's hard to say how long the upgrade offer from SHS7 will last. If I were in your shoes I'd put the cash to the side and get S8. It's worth the investment and the improved performance that it provides. In either case I'd wait a bit though. There are still a few outstanding items that seem to need a bit of sorting out thought I believe release 8.0.1 have addressed. I expect to see update 8.0.2 sometime in the future. As you say you might want to go lurk in the Sonar SE & PE room.

Doc,

Your probably right that I should have waited but I didn't and done did it, SHS7XL. I'll miss out on the upgrade to SONAR 8 but I can go that route in a year or two I guess. My main consideration was that I want something with a drum VSTi and I'd have to go producer to get that with SONAR. My other choice was to get SONAR Studio and then buy Toontracks but I just cheked and everyone seems to have brought out their latest versions with the included price hike. SHS is simply teh best value for me at this time. I was pleasently suprised to see that the Bakers responded to the complaints so quickly and in a way that seems to have satisfied most of the forum members. I'll keep you guys up to date on how this all works out. Thanks again for the advice. I'll have to start spending some time over in the SHS room to see what I've gotten myself into.

CJ, don't get me wrong, HS7XL is a great program - it's just not the same as HS6! One big improvement it has over HS6 is in the audio engine, which shares some of the enhancements currently being employed in SONAR 8.

Cake are taking a slightly different approach to their mid-range product which means a lot of the features that HS users have taken for granted have been stripped out - you can customise GT to a much greater extent!

The offer to upgrade from HS7 to SONAR8 Studio Edition runs until 27th November and costs just $39 - if p&p costs aren't prohibitive, I'd say that would be $39 extremely well spent CJ! I'm certainly going to SONAR8, but I'm hoping Cake might allow the upgrade to Producer Edition in one direct step, as opposed to having to upgrade twice.

Like I said mate, let me know if there are any specifics with HS7XL you need to know.

Steve

Strummy,

Stepping up to S8? I'm envious. Right now my funds are tied up in a DAW construction project to be ready for S8PE when I purchase the update. Purpose built PCs seem to be quite expensive these days.
Here's the chassis I've started with. Motherboard arrives today. Woohoo!

Doc, can you help me out with something i don't understand. Maybe its just the words, but what does a bus do and why use the word bus? The same for envelope. Please forgive my dumbness. Thank you!

ORIGINAL: stratmanforever

Doc, can you help me out with something i don't understand. Maybe its just the words, but what does a bus do and why use the word bus? The same for envelope. Please forgive my dumbness. Thank you!

If you haven't already followed the link I put in your other thread Bill, Robert's excellent buss tutorial is the first post in this very thread.

ORIGINAL: stratmanforever

Doc, can you help me out with something i don't understand. Maybe its just the words, but what does a bus do and why use the word bus? The same for envelope. Please forgive my dumbness. Thank you!

The word Buss comes from an electrical term relating to and electrical circuit. Specifically it refers to a set of parallel conductors in a circuit that forms a main transmission path.

The term envelope comes actually from another computer concept when using a lasso in programs such as Photoshop. The resultant area included within the lasso area is called an envelope. Really because it is a logical container that holds information. Like an envelope holds a letter.

Steve and Doc,

I've a feeling Bill may be making a point.

Doc,

Gigabyte boards rule! I built my computer around on and it is super stable. Of course I've probably just cursed myself.

Steve,

If my software showes up in time for me to get it registered by the 27th I'll get the upgrade.

ORIGINAL: cjlinus

Steve,

If my software showes up in time for me to get it registered by the 27th I'll get the upgrade.

Nice one CJ - it's a no brainer really!

ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK

- it's a no brainer really!

Then you should be able to handle it Steve.

ORIGINAL: pistolpete

ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK

- it's a no brainer really!

Then you should be able to handle it Steve.

The $39 upgrade you imbecile, not the program.

I suppose a tour jacket's out of the question now?

Sorry, the tour jackets are all sold out.

ORIGINAL: pistolpete

Sorry, the tour jackets are all sold out.

Congratulations - how many did you make - one?

And how much did you charge yourself to sell it out




Sorry, I shouldn't really - you just make it soooooooooo easy Pedro......



BTW, have you had any problems with latency recently?

ORIGINAL: cjlinus

Steve and Doc,

I've a feeling Bill may be making a point.

Yes, Unless you have been digging up some history, been exposed to similar technologies in the past, the lingo is not at all obvious.

ORIGINAL: cjlinus

Doc,

Gigabyte boards rule! I built my computer around on and it is super stable. Of course I've probably just cursed myself.

I did some digging around and it was hard to find exactly what I wanted here in the USA market (I refuse to buy from foreign markets due to the import duties). It was between this board and an ASUS board. The deciding factors being gaming quality graphics acceleration (I like seeing the wave drawn real time rather than seeing "busy" and the board support ATI CrosfireX), Firewire capability, Phenom 9650 support with capability to overclock to over 3GHz, 8GB+ of 1066 MHz RAM (this one will support 16 GB), and PCI support for at least two SSL Duende cards. I've had good experience with both manufacturers boards. All the PCs I've built on their platforms have been rock solid. But with X-mas coming around the corner I don't expect to get this machine done till end of January.

Doc,

I went with the GA-MA790X-DS4 from newegg. I opted for the AMD board but my previous one was Intel. Again, it's been a solid performer. I put in a Gigabyte video card because I figured that they should play well together out of the box and so far I have not been disapointed. My case is an Antech P180 which lives up to it's reputation of being quiet. I hope to get another 6G of RAM and upgrade to the next version of Windows, not Vista, once the bugs are worked out.

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Up you go.........

I like working with buses...Greyhound, Laidlaw, International. My favorite is school buses...

ORIGINAL: KainThornn

I like working with buses...Greyhound, Laidlaw, International. My favorite is school buses...

Hey Kain - that must be the first time that one's been cracked

Well, let's fire up our favorite search engine and see what shakes loose.



Creative bus adverts

Hey Jessie - do I win a prize if I can combine a bus and a wedge in a ****ed image

I don't know about a prize, but it's at least good for Honorable Mention.

ORIGINAL: Jessie Sammler

I don't know about a prize, but it's at least good for Honorable Mention.

He he - I have to say I'm struggling though.

Hey Pete, can I borrow your copy of Photoshop?

Man you guys really help.
It is good to see a form that really helps.

Thanks

Nice work Buss Driver Bob! I enjoyed the way you explained this concept so most anyone could gleam something from this. Take care.

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