X2 Is Rock Solid for me

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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 23:15:18 (permalink)
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Ok... sorry about that. I just wasn't sure what you were getting at considering some of our previous interactions. Cheers.

Sorry not needed I could have worded it a little better.
 
Take care.

 
 
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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 23:18:39 (permalink)
LMAO

 
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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 23:24:05 (permalink)
I'm guessing I've joined a forum where there are heated debates from time to time eh?
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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 23:26:12 (permalink)
As much as X1 was a bust for me, X2 has been pretty good to me.

Admittedly my usage pattern has changed since retiring ie. I'm not as heavy a user at this time as when X1 was released.

when my new home is finished (2 months or so) and I finally get a studio again I'll be looking forward to getting deeper into Sonar X2? whatever version is around at that time; 

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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/21 00:46:22 (permalink)
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I'm guessing I've joined a forum where there are heated debates from time to time eh?

not really it just seems sometimes when someone posts a positive thread others feel its neccessary
to point out the flaws.
there are ways about expressing concerns and then there are those who just want to spoil peoples enjoyment.
 
this place is a vast of knowlege and with that comes heads that butt.but if you can do it in a decent fashion then
you learn to respect the people that dont always agree with you.

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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/21 00:57:31 (permalink)
Well Charlie, you've already pissed me off. You have an AMD processor.... I work at Intel 
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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/21 04:46:57 (permalink)
I sort of feel like I'm not really qualified to give testimony on X2a as I've really only been enjoying it for about a week and a half. In that time I've had a few old plugins that didn't work that needed a paid update to get up to snuff but otherwise it's never brought the machine down and the only crashes were related to the aforementioned plugins. I haven't done any really serious mixes with tons of automation or anything nor have I done any overdubs on the recordings I've done. I've only dealt with previously recorded projects or just test recordings of 16 track live band recordings.

I can say that I tracked 4 full lengths and countless demos and TV cues on X1 and X1E. Other than some shortcuts changing I never had any problems with X1. I ran X1 on a windows XP machine that started off with Sonar 6PE and hosted every version of Sonar up to X1.

I'm sorry there are some people with many troubles. I'm worried I could be come one but so far other than experiencing the most challenging computer build of my life on my current machine I've generally fared pretty well with regard to stability.

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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 08:37:01 (permalink)
My SONAR X2 x64 is very stable too!

I had some strange things happen "crash" in the past but I found out how to fix it. If you experice instability with SONAR or other programs, try this out.

First check in Windows event log file? Do you find "error id 46 volmgr"?
'If you do,.... this will fix it!


Let's try these steps to change the settings of virtual memory only for 'C' drive and remove the settings to automatically manager paging file size for other drives.

a. Open System by clicking the Start button, clicking Control Panel, clicking System and Maintenance, and then clicking System.
b. In the left pane, click Advanced system settings. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
c. On the Advanced tab, under Performance, click Settings.
d. Click the Advanced tab, and then, under Virtual memory, click Change.
e. Clear the Automatically manage paging file size for all drives check box.
f. Under Drive [volume label], click the drive that contains the paging file you want to change.
g. Select the drive and select no paging file and click set for all the drives except for C drive:

Set page file size as same as your installed RAM size, example: If you have 8126mb RAM set MAX pagefile to 8126 and minimum to same value 8126.
Windows will need to rebot your system..

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Change-the-size-of-virtual-memory


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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 09:21:09 (permalink)
Good tip, Freddie.   I've been setting a fixed virtual memory size for about 15 years now, though I originally came across this from a CAD/3D modeling perspective vs. DAW use.   But either way, removing dynamic virtual memory resizing from the list of Windows tasks always seemed like a good thing to do.
 

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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 10:04:52 (permalink)
I just noticed something the last couple of days - just to add some positive experience here

I needed to open some old - old projects, created with version 5, 6 or whatever it was, OLD projects - to bounce out some backing tracks we use live. So I did the usual thing, save-as a new copy called "songtitle X2" so I don't mess up the original. Then started brushing up the tracks, adding new synths, tweaking sounds and so forth, add a bunch of Pro Channel effects. The only problem I had was that on all the old tracks, my default PC chain for Buses was inserted on the tracks rather than my default PC chain for tracks. Weird. No biggie. Then bounced out the stems and that was it.

What makes this a story worth telling is that with X1, this couldn't possibly happen without having a huge crash! And we're talking that big re-boot, everything hangs and milk goes sour crash. I developed a workaround that got me through that when I needed to but it took some time and effort. I'm happy to see that X2a is much happier with pre X-series projects, even with old 32-bit plugins not installed any more.

I have to say, since the A-patch I haven't been messing too much with Sonar because of heavy workloads elsewhere. But so far I have no problems with it.

I keep reading about how some people are having serious issues, but not so much what they are exactly. I've not been here much the past few months. Is there a list or a run down in a thread somewhere? I have run into minor bugs which I work around and can't actually remember what they are ATM.

Anyway, a huge positive for X2 - it changed everything
post edited by ProjectM - 2013/02/22 19:04:00

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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 10:08:20 (permalink)
How to determine the appropriate page file size for 64-bit versions of Windows (in depth):
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889654/en-us

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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 10:25:39 (permalink)
X2 was a problem for me until the initial quick fix took care of the main issue I was having. X2a has been rick solid. The only crash I've had was from one of those Dim Pro patches mentioned up thread. On my machine it seems to be the drum loops that crash Dim Pro in 64 bit, probably because they contain rex files. This has been happening since 8.53, but that's another story for another time. I just did a two song CD for a local band using about 40 tracks per song, Pro Channel on each with console emulation, plus some 3rd party plug-ins like Drumagog, Guitar Rig, etc. Not one crash or even a hiccup. The project was started on a Q6600 machine and finished on an i7 machine. X2a was stable on both builds. Overall I'm very happy with this version. Does it have a few quirks? Yes, but so does Pro Tools MP9 for me especially when using ReWire with Reason on some of my MIDI stuff.
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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 11:12:43 (permalink)
Nice to see some positive feedback for a change! I had a couple of minor hiccups on X2, but they were minor issues that were resolved quickly thanks to this forum. In fact, I recently finished recording our band's second album using X2 (first was done on X1).
 
Sadly, I need to incorporate another DAW into my system strictly based on scoring-to-picture requirements. X2 is "okay" for minor work, but once you get cooking, it lacks in that department. I'm awaiting the Windows release of DP8, which is undoubtedly the way to go for scoring to picture IMO. Not sure why Cakewalk never focussed more on this area??
 
Other than that, X2 is a fantastic, rock solid DAW. I find that most gripes on this forum over the years are a result of system specific issues, not the program itself.
 
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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 11:17:18 (permalink)
Laugh Out LOUD!

You guys are a trip!



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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 11:30:48 (permalink)
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How to determine the appropriate page file size for 64-bit versions of Windows (in depth):
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889654/en-us
Where's the information for all the versions after XP? This applies to Windows Server 2003 and XP x64 which was never really released.

Plus ...
"This article is specifically for computers that do not need kernel mode or full memory dump analysis."
Please folks, don't be messing with this stuff and then come back to the forum complaining that X2a is crashing ... if you screw with any of this non-sense ... make sure you completely format your system and reload everything from scratch before you come back complaining about Sonar.

You guys are so funny. LOL!

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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 11:32:48 (permalink)
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Good tip, Freddie.   I've been setting a fixed virtual memory size for about 15 years now, though I originally came across this from a CAD/3D modeling perspective vs. DAW use.   But either way, removing dynamic virtual memory resizing from the list of Windows tasks always seemed like a good thing to do.
 
Thanks and that's cool!
That was a nice trick on XP32 system making it work smoother.. On XP 1,5 times the RAM on board.
 
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Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 11:35:48 (permalink)
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How to determine the appropriate page file size for 64-bit versions of Windows (in depth):
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889654/en-us

Cheers Alex!
 
Note its only on...
 
  • Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition for Itanium-Based Systems
  • Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition for Itanium-based Systems
  • Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Standard x64 Edition
  • Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Datacenter x64 Edition
  • Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Enterprise x64 Edition
  • Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition  
     
    not on Windows 7 x64, Windows 8 x64 or Windows Vista x64
    as I remember it "pagefile" need ALWYAYS to be activated on those systems even how much physical RAM you have installed.
     
    post edited by Freddie H - 2013/02/22 11:44:38


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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 11:40:36 (permalink)
    Bub


     XP x64 which was never really released. 



    I guess it was ... 


    Cheers ! 


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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 11:55:00 (permalink)
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 12:09:29 (permalink)
    This thread is another example of a few people adding drama to this forum daily. Not much to read here anymore. Someone says I like sonar - the handful of love/hate sonar folks jump in and call bs on the op. Then you grab the popcorn and read the rest like a bad re-run of the karate kid #23. The core group that hates on Sonar to the most boring place in a reader's mind is and has driven helpful and interesting people away from the forum. To my amazement, even attacking Craig Anderton from the safety of their big bad keyboard last week. What a travesty!! We are honored to have Craig here to share his deep knowledge of the music industry and recording knowledge. I'm ashamed.

    With that said - this type of thread should have been a harmless everyday type thread where someone wanted to share their experience with like minded people. Good luck with the duck dynasty bash sonar for sport folks. Like highway robbers, they lay in wait. Anxious to see a thread such as this one and jump in with their message of being a victim. Hope that is working out for all of you that this applies to.

    Boring...



     
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 13:04:18 (permalink)
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    Use it some more...

    Is that really neccessary?
     
    some people,like myself included share this feeling.
    if you dont,then im sure you could state your issues on this thread or maybe another thread.
    but in a constructive way would be nice.
     
    how would you like it if you started a thread with some issues you were having and someone replied,learn how to use your sonar.
    how would that be?
     
    because thats pretty much what your saying here. "use it some more" as if he isnt using it properly or enough?
     
    you see the negetivity he is talking about in his post,are people like you.
    when someone is trying to share a positive experience.someone unhappy feels as if everone else needs to be as miserable as them.
     
    sharing concern is one thing,because i can agree with concerns,flaming...thats another story.
    I PUT AWAY MY FLAMTHROWER,honestly he saying x1 was not solid bring the fact that after i figured out.
     the right way to install,
     clean install and ajustment to windows
     all the settings including buffers and so on x1 was mint.
     but seems the same setting might not be so solid, and everyone has differnt rigs so some take more config
    i mean realy just think of the specs of a duel core laptop to a I.7 or AMD 6 core with 16 gigs or ram in full 64.there are lots of variables so this tells me ya i can run sonar on my laptop record 4-5 tracks 3-4 plugs till it lags, have a basic setup with good sound card and its a no brainer sonar x2 is solid, iv seen it.
     but build a custom rig with 3 midi devices 4 usb 10 or more channel sound card with racks of FX and the kitchen sink, guess what it takes alot of work to build your dream daw and have it run 20 live track as i record.
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 13:26:05 (permalink)
      I truly believe that positive threads are very important. 
      When I was shopping for a new audio interface, my first choice was the TC Electronics Konnekt 48. Before a purchase I've made a habit of checking out the user forums to see if there were many complaints. I ended up going Focusrite instead of TC due to complaints about the pots failing.
       I'm not lying about my positive experience with X2. 
       I would highly doubt that Cakewalk would have there software fail on every system that they tested it on and release it to the public anyway.
       I'm sure there are plenty of users not having issues using X2.

       I would think that we would want to expand Sonar's user base. The more success Cakewalk has the more resources they have to make it even better.

        This forum has helped a lot of users with issues . If you have an issue and want help with it you should look here. I even think you should come here to **** & moan sometimes. But to watch the same people come in here and try to derail every positive thread, its getting very annoying. 

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 14:01:19 (permalink)
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 15:46:55 (permalink)
    I would like to have the forum divided into a couple of sections. 1) General discussion 2) Community Support

    I enjoy learning more about the software and don't mind hearing about roadblocks and solutions or that there are no solutions. However, I would probably spend 90% of my time on the Community Support forum if it existed.

    Right now we have a mix of coffee house, general discussion and community support. It's a mess. 

     
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 16:21:03 (permalink)
    Hello again, Looks like my thread reared an ugly head over the past couple days... I don't mind though. Like I said before, I could not get X1 stable no matter what I did. Including re formats, re installs, and Tech support. That kind of thing leaves a pretty bitter taste in your mouth. Sometimes you just gotta vent... I think we've all been there. When you come on this forum, there are a lot of people who truly do want to help and mean well. But I think it's a tough pill to swallow when they're telling you to repeat things you've already done several times. i.e reformat & reinstall. At that point it only takes one guy to insinuate that you're an idiot because you can't get your rig running, and you fly off the handle. Thankfully, I've been able to keep quiet in that situation. But like I said, I get it if some people need to vent.


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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 16:36:44 (permalink)
    I just wanted to add that I have had absolutely zero problems with X1 or X2 either.

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    post edited by Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk] - 2013/02/25 14:11:30

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    post edited by Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk] - 2013/02/25 14:11:40

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 18:18:07 (permalink)
    Whats wrong in thread like this in just saying "good for you OP"?

    Do we have to make a smart remark? And do really need to have this many posts debating the merits of the that smart remark?

    Yes everyone has a right to express an opinion but do we always have to?



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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/22 18:38:14 (permalink)
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