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2013/02/20 16:28:03 (permalink)

X2 Is Rock Solid for me

I was just browsing the forum, and there really seems to be a lot of negativity regarding X2 & X2a. I just want to throw out there that I recently built a new 64bit desktop computer based on Window 7 & Sonar X2a, and I have not enjoyed this kind of stability since 8.5.3. Since I installed X2, I've not had a single crash. In fact, the only problem I've had is an issue with a 32 bit reverb plugin. Even that didn't cause a crash, just a bunch of noise. X1 was a complete disaster for me. A total waste of time and money. It never was solid for me. So trying X2 was a pretty big gamble for me. So I want to throw out some positivity to Cake. I'm a happy customer!


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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 16:33:24 (permalink)
    Use it some more...


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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 16:46:38 (permalink)
    As a trial user, I'm happy with it as well, so much so I ordered X2 Producer a few days ago. Arrives tomorrow! 
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 16:48:13 (permalink)
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    Use it some more...

    Is that really neccessary?
     
    some people,like myself included share this feeling.
    if you dont,then im sure you could state your issues on this thread or maybe another thread.
    but in a constructive way would be nice.
     
    how would you like it if you started a thread with some issues you were having and someone replied,learn how to use your sonar.
    how would that be?
     
    because thats pretty much what your saying here. "use it some more" as if he isnt using it properly or enough?
     
    you see the negetivity he is talking about in his post,are people like you.
    when someone is trying to share a positive experience.someone unhappy feels as if everone else needs to be as miserable as them.
     
    sharing concern is one thing,because i can agree with concerns,flaming...thats another story.
    post edited by chuckebaby - 2013/02/20 16:55:02

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 16:50:38 (permalink)
    For me it was the opposit. 8.53 and X1 was very stable for me. X2 has taken me to hell and back but i was persistant to try to get it working. 4 pc re-images, installs 32bit install 64bit, uninstall, new video card, firewire card you name it. After the last reimage I installed X2 with no update patches and it ran good. I was even afraid to install MS updates because they have caused problems with X2. I was afraid to update to X2a anagin but I took the chance and so far so good. The only issues I've had so far were caused by plugins.  So I hope it keeps working ok. The one that won't work though and I tried everything are my Anyares plugins. The crash the bitbridge and Jbridge so I'm at a halt with those plugins.
     
    I'm glad it's working good for you. There are many who are not having any issues. I'm not a power user either so I'm not using some of the more complicated features that many use so I'm not pushing Sonar to any limits.
     
    Good luck.

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 16:52:26 (permalink)
    I like X2, but it has some problems. I'm sure they will get around to fixing it and I'm not planning on changing daws.

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 17:04:12 (permalink)
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    For me it was the opposit. 8.53 and X1 was very stable for me. X2 has taken me to hell and back but i was persistant to try to get it working. 4 pc re-images, installs 32bit install 64bit, uninstall, new video card, firewire card you name it. After the last reimage I installed X2 with no update patches and it ran good. I was even afraid to install MS updates because they have caused problems with X2. I was afraid to update to X2a anagin but I took the chance and so far so good. The only issues I've had so far were caused by plugins.  So I hope it keeps working ok. The one that won't work though and I tried everything are my Anyares plugins. The crash the bitbridge and Jbridge so I'm at a halt with those plugins.
     
    I'm glad it's working good for you. There are many who are not having any issues. I'm not a power user either so I'm not using some of the more complicated features that many use so I'm not pushing Sonar to any limits.
     
    Good luck.

    this is a good post,its very honest and telling.
    i havent shared exact issues but i can totaly agree on the plug in thing.
    i to had a few white outs due to some plug ins that were 32 bit using a 64 bit system.
    im pretty much all 64 bit plug ins so i dont have those same problems anymore.
    the 32 bit plug ins i do still use are stable with x2 though.
     
    but generaly speaking im very happy like the op.
     
     

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 17:08:17 (permalink)
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    Use it some more...
    +1


    If what you've gotten in to so far has worked, that's great! I'm enjoying everything that does work so far as well.


    Where it get's frustrating is when you run in to things that should work but don't, and never get fixed. Bugs happen, but it's the repeated ones that follow from version to version that gets people upset. Then that exasperates the problem of new ones, and it snow balls, and the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round ...


    Personally speaking that is, if you don't mind me saying so.

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 17:14:40 (permalink)
    Thanks for posting a positive thread.
     
    I, too, have found X2a stable.  I had a bit of a wobble with the original release, but the quickfix sorted out any issues.
     
    X1d was also very stable for me, but I really enjoy the enhancements in X2.

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 18:06:47 (permalink)
    me too.

    After the groove 3 videos I have started using a lot of things I have never used before in Sonar and still no issues.

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 19:53:42 (permalink)
     Clean Windows 8 install. No 32 bit plugins. X2a. Many hours of use. No problems.
      Touch is awesome. I'm loving X2

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 20:00:21 (permalink)
    Pretty stable here. I've had a couple full crashes but they are very rare (I've been running X2 since last fall). I get the occasional engine stops sometimes for seemingly no reason but I think that's my audio drive being weird for the most part. There are just quite a few bugs and broken features but they don't really stop me from getting things done.

    Cheers.
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 20:02:14 (permalink)
    Clean install of windows, latest drivers and firmware. No other non daw related software. Maybe 5 tweaks or so, stable as a rock. Although I had my second ever crash today. The lesson is don't do a save with dimension pro softsynth open. In fact I'm always gonna keep softsynths closed from now on when I save. Yuk.

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 20:20:21 (permalink)
    Maybe you had one of the booby trapped Dim Pro patches loaded. Wish there was a list of those somewhere.
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 20:46:04 (permalink)
    cclarry Use it some more...+1
     
    If what you've gotten in to so far has worked, that's great! I'm enjoying everything that does work so far as well. Where it get's frustrating is when you run in to things that should work but don't, and never get fixed. Bugs happen, but it's the repeated ones that follow from version to version that gets people upset. Then that exasperates the problem of new ones, and it snow balls, and the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round ... Personally speaking that is, if you don't mind me saying so.

     
    The OP did refer to crashes and general stability.   And personally, I'm in the same boat in that X2 just works well for me.   Recording MIDI and audio, editing, mixing, Pro Channel, etc, etc.   A few minor quirks here and there?   Sure.   And yet I still feel pretty much like the OP after months of using X2.  Call me lucky, but it is what it is. 
     
    If the OP is going to come across issues at some point then they'll have every opportunity to make that known.  May as well let them enjoy the experience they're having right now.   If you don't mind me saying so.  
     

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 20:55:16 (permalink)
    X2a working good for me here, too.  I've had a couple of crashes that I tracked down to old plugins from previous projects.  I've experienced a few of the glitches mentioned in other threads but nothing that would make me stop using it.  I even opened a project up 8.5 a while ago just to be sure it would open to look at my track list and it was weird, I really like the X2 look and feel now.  Took a bit of getting used to but I'm on board with it now. 

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 21:05:56 (permalink)
    Very stable here, I'd say as stable, if not more than X1d is/was. 

    Note that I'm using the "studio" edition, and I'm fully aware that most major "improvements" from X1 to X2 are things that are not included in the studio edition (prochannel, etc....) so that may explain why it very robust, 

    I have this issue with NUDGE (opened a thread about it, and contacted support, no answer yet), I have this issue on 1 system (my other system runs fine)...

    I just finished a 6min cue to picture, about 20 softsynths, crazy automation and stuff... on X2A 32 bit ... never failed on me,
    once I got over the new ways of X2, I "forgot" about the machine... X2 runs smooth, I completely trust it. (unless I nudge clips!)

    Like I said in a previous thread, Studio edition lacks the initial value it had, it feels a little left out, for the price the upgrade costs, 

    but in NO way I can relate to the problems and overall bad reception people have expressed on this forum.

    I wonder if there is anything to do with the fact that the upgrades are now downloadable, and more prone to some data corruption... 
    Cake should add (or improve if it's already there) a validation system on downloaded files. Maybe that would sort some issues.. Just sayin'

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 21:14:04 (permalink)
    I have a lot of complaints about X2, some more serious than others, but boy is this program WAY more stable than Pro Tools ever was for me. Despite it's shortcomings I'm sticking with it because I believe it has the potential to be the best DAW available with some TLC from the bakers. We will see what happens over the next 6 months or so. 

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 21:20:20 (permalink)
    Beepster


    Pretty stable here. I've had a couple full crashes but they are very rare (I've been running X2 since last fall). I get the occasional engine stops sometimes for seemingly no reason but I think that's my audio drive being weird for the most part. There are just quite a few bugs and broken features but they don't really stop me from getting things done.

    Cheers.

    yeah same here. 5 months of use and testing including setting up pure data programs to send vast amounts of midi data on multiple channels at the same time into sonar.  i had a big crash a couple of weeks ago - first time i rememer, and i got x2 the day it was released.  pretty happy!

     
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 21:23:30 (permalink)
    sharke


    I have a lot of complaints about X2, some more serious than others, but boy is this program WAY more stable than Pro Tools ever was for me. Despite it's shortcomings I'm sticking with it because I believe it has the potential to be the best DAW available with some TLC from the bakers. We will see what happens over the next 6 months or so. 
    yeah sharke i agree.  maybe 3-5 years down the road if cake keeps innovating and not stagnating like the other daw mfrs it is going to be way way ahead of the pack.


     
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 21:30:16 (permalink)
    the thing i like about this thread is everyone has been open, honest and constructive.(except post # 2-atleast explain a little something)
    ive just read and took it all in,people having success but some small issues.
    i think this also shows that a lot of other daws out there have problems as well and nothing is ever going to be perfect.
    these programs are so complex,its next to impossible to release something and have it not have a few quirks.
    all i can say i hope cake takes the constructive critisism and does something with it.

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 21:36:06 (permalink)
    yeah... any prob i've had hasn't been a show-stopper at all.  i think there are always 5 ways you can do anything...  i've never been able to NOT do anything with sonar.... granted i might have had to find a workaround but what that has given me is better problem-solving skills to use on the next project and maybe a new way of doing something than i had originally envisioned that actually WORKED BETTER than the way i first tried.  amazing how that happens sometimes! ;)

     
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 21:44:02 (permalink)
    Edited for TOS violation.  


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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 22:05:23 (permalink)
    Ya know what, I deleted my original response.

    It's pretty clear who started this thread going in to the sewer if it ends up going there ... I really don't want to be associated with it.
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 22:55:07 (permalink)

    @Beepster-in a recent post you mentioned you don't recognize this place, although you haven't been here that long you have been on a lot. Beepster, this is what angers me.

      Edit: Sorry. Need sleep. Brain go floppy. ;-)
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 23:03:42 (permalink)
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    @Beepster-in a recent post you mentioned you don't recognize this place, although you haven't been here that long you have been on a lot. Beepster, this is what angers me.
    Wait... are you trying to pick yet another fight with me about my post count? Do ever actually READ some of my posts? A huge pile of them are answering questions for new guys to pay back the forum for all the help I've been given. The others are mostly me trying to learn about the software myself. Isn't that what this place is for? If I bother you that much just bloody well block me already. Cripes. Talk about negative.
    Don't let him get to you Beepster. You've helped a lot of people here on this forum. There's nothing wrong with your post count ... it just shows you care.

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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 23:04:47 (permalink)
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 23:09:44 (permalink)
    Ok... sorry about that. I just wasn't sure what you were getting at considering some of our previous interactions. Cheers.
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 23:13:16 (permalink)
    And I do care. I like it here and have learned a lot in my short time here. Cheers.
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    Re:X2 Is Rock Solid for me 2013/02/20 23:14:38 (permalink)
    Beepster



    @Beepster-in a recent post you mentioned you don't recognize this place, although you haven't been here that long you have been on a lot. Beepster, this is what angers me.

    Wait... are you trying to pick yet another fight with me about my post count? Do ever actually READ some of my posts? A huge pile of them are answering questions for new guys to pay back the forum for all the help I've been given. The others are mostly me trying to learn about the software myself. Isn't that what this place is for? If I bother you that much just bloody well block me already. Cripes. Talk about negative.

    Cripes? Beepser, are you British? If so, shouldn't it be crikey? ;-)
     
    As far as X2 goes, I can't believe all the problems I've been having with it. It almost never crashes, you can add tons of plug-ins and it still keeps chuggin, it sounds amazing and it still won't help me locate fish. Honestly, if this keeps up I'll have to stop trying to fish with it and make some music.
     
    On a serious note, just use 64bit plugs with 64bit Sonar and it works great.

    Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy.
     
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