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X2 this year?
What do you guys think?
or should the Bakers just continue to update X1?
Well, if X2 is coming out by Oct or Nov, I hope it will have significant improvements for Staff view!
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/06 23:26:55
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+1 on the staff view, also hope they stop trying to over simplify the editing tools.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 03:17:40
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I thought the Smart Tools was a great way to spice things up. Took some getting used to, and it does remember editing paths taken in the project, so anything I've been working on, the tool knows what I want to do according to context with in the project.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 08:42:56
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JesusMics
I thought the Smart Tools was a great way to ****e things up. Took some getting used to, and it does remember editing paths taken in the project, so anything I've been working on, the tool knows what I want to do according to context with in the project.
It sure didn't seem to know when I wanted to tweak a volume envelope or a clip pan envelope last night. Or a clip gain envelope... unless I pressed the automation button on the track. In regards to automation envelopes, I still feel the old way was better. ( An envelope lane would be better still.)
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 11:28:18
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Mod Bod
It sure didn't seem to know when I wanted to tweak a volume envelope or a clip pan envelope last night. Or a clip gain envelope... unless I pressed the automation button on the track.
Shift + left click is the quickest way to switch to do that or shift+right click to switch between the last two edit filter states.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 11:39:52
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 11:46:18
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I'm hoping this thread will become the "what I want in *any* version of SONAR. Those are my favorite threads. Oh yeah, and lest we forget; someone should chime in and say until Xx is as solid as 8.5.3 they're not going to upgrade. BTW, I want folders in folders, full color customization, individual track solo on multi-out drums when a drum map is used. 
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 14:27:33
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Until SONAR Xx is as solid as 8.5.3 I am not going to upgrade! Oh, wait a second....  Since we're on the topic, automation is and has been my #1 hope for the next version. I don't totally dislike what's there, but I definitely see room for improvement. I wouldn't mind some layers rework too. Oh, and just a little more color customization (like ghosted envelopes) would be sweet. And while I don't hold much hope for the SV, a few minor fixes and tweaks there would be very much appreciated too - it's one view I'd like to use more.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 15:02:32
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X2 will be released in November, and will require Windows 8 to run. The new track view will be based on Metro, meaning Track View and Matrix View will now be one and the same. 
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 15:10:53
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stevec
Since we're on the topic, automation is and has been my #1 hope for the next version. I don't totally dislike what's there, but I definitely see room for improvement.
I love the automation as it is but I really really would like to see a popup over ghosted data to make it perfect for me. (Have I mentioned that before...  )
I wouldn't mind some layers rework too.
Any option other than the current two - "Higgledepiggledy" & "Pot luck", for layers sort would be welcomed by me.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 15:48:23
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Whenever it is released it will change everything.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 17:23:10
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Is this going to cost me more money?..............I was just considering an upgrading, I should hold off then huh.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 17:35:52
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Higgledepiggledy I've noticed quite a bias against Higgledepiggledy around here... And speaking of bias, did anyone catch that Bias (as in Peak) is apparently going out of business? Sorry for the OT. 
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 19:46:04
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X2 will be released in November, and will require Windows 8 to run. The new track view will be based on Metro, meaning Track View and Matrix View will now be one and the same.
bitflipper
X2 will be released in November, and will require Windows 8 to run. The new track view will be based on Metro, meaning Track View and Matrix View will now be one and the same.
Haha. Sonar on a 7 inch tablet with an ARM chip... I bet it will be as smooth as silk........
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/07 20:35:32
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 00:02:51
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Why woulnd't it be Sonar Y1?
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 00:14:30
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Cuz "Y" is not normally considered a numeral. Could be wrong. Could be an undocumented feature.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 00:24:53
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John T
I think I'm with this guy on Windows 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIMuJTrxuhQ
YEUCK !!! I just watched this walk thru of Windows 8 and I will NOT be buying it. It's absolutely horrible !!! If X2 will only work with Windows 8, too bad, I won't be buying that either. I absolutely HATE Windows 8. Please, just keep updating X1.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 00:26:21
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Why woulnd't it be Sonar Y1? Also, "Y1" doesn't do itself any favors from a marketing point of view. "Why one?"
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 00:31:16
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The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate. Bushpianos
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 00:54:21
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@John T... Good gawd! KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 02:56:44
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My thoughts:
(1) I assumed that X1 stood for 2011 - so there'll be an X2 before the end of 2012; Probably Q4.
(2) The Cakewalk forward development team are separate from the menders.
(3) CW needs more subtantial continuous revenue streams than those gleaned from add-ons.
What will be in X2 I can't imagine, but it's always fun to speculate!
Oh, and new forum software that works with IE9 would be a nice innovation this year also!
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 03:48:10
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I think they will go for DAW 3.0 for X2:
- Only working on Windows 8
- Nothing 32 bit allowed
- ... AND best of all: Controlled via Kinect for PC
... Which would give a whole new meaning to wave-forms
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 06:41:17
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Yeah, Win 8 looks grim for desktop / mouse use. If you watch a video focused exclusively on touchscreen use on tablets, it's actually quite impressive, (though still not as nice as the iPad IMO). But the schizophrenic switching between a Windows interface and the new interface for desktop use is laughably stupid. So far, to me, this looks like the biggest howler Microsoft have ever made. I'm guessing the number of people really crying out for a hybrid tablet and desktop OS that doesn't quite pull off either is somewhere around zero.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 07:28:44
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Windows 8 looks like a mess for desktop users, (going by that link anyway)
I'm sure it's fine if you like to get finger prints and smudges on your screen.
"Nothing significant has ever been typed using thumbs"
I for one won't be going anywhere near that circus.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 07:35:56
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SEVerstraten
I think they will go for DAW 3.0 for X2:
- Only working on Windows 8
- Nothing 32 bit allowed
- ... AND best of all: Controlled via Kinect for PC
... Which would give a whole new meaning to wave-forms
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 07:36:22
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Yeah, that video looks pretty creepy...I know that I'll be sticking with 7 for awhile.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 08:16:44
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>>this looks like the biggest howler Microsoft have ever made.
John T: Perhaps you are forgetting the infamous "Bob"?
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 08:21:38
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Bob was terrible, but this is another level entirely. I think it's going to tank pretty hard, myself, and I'm generally quite keen on progress and change. Just not for its own sake, which is what a lot of this looks like to me.
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Re:X2 this year?
2012/06/08 08:31:42
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X1 is (X one) not the number eleven.
X + the letter 'I" is Roman numerals for the number eleven (11).
SONAR is called X one. this point was made clear along time ago by Seth and Brandon.
Will the next version be X Two?
who knows? Maybe Cakewalk will follow Presonus and call it X One Two i.e. X1 2.
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