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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 08:30:39
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I pray for mcu support for prochannel please please please !
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Dave Modisette
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 09:18:51
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I pray for mcu support for prochannel please please please !
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 11:16:18
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"Touch support for Intel-Inspired Ultrabooks and other touch-enabled devices."
What does this mean, exactly, vis-a-vis X2 in a Windows 8 environment?
Could I buy a touch screen monitor and use it with multi-touch, e.g., riding multiple faders as once? If so, wouldn't that be huge, like having Sonar on an iPad, but with all the power of a PC and a much larger screen? Ultimate control surface and monitor in one?
I realize they are expensive, but could one use dual touch screens, lay them at a gentle angle (so as to not have to reach up so high) and have a virtual "console" at your fingertips?
And plugin control via touch? Could be amazing after all these years of fighting with ACT, Automap, and the like (granting the limitations and quirks of touchscreen over tactile pots and faders).
What am I missing here (probably a lot).
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John
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 12:21:58
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Why not get one touch screen and lay it flat. Use it as if its a control surface. I believe Windows 8 and X2a may give us this ability. This has been in the back of my thoughts ever since Windows 8 came out.
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Treefight
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 13:45:14
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Same here. I'm hoping we'll be able to do exactly that!
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 13:46:20
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Wonder whether it will do iPad over wifi thingy?
I hope they fix the basics and bugs tho. That's what we all want I think.
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 14:37:13
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Could I buy a touch screen monitor and use it with multi-touch, e.g., riding multiple faders as once? If so, wouldn't that be huge, like having Sonar on an iPad, but with all the power of a PC and a much larger screen? Ultimate control surface and monitor in one? Yes X2A will work with any touch enabled monitor or on touch enabled ultrabooks. It should also work on the upcoming Microsoft Surface Pro. There are several multitouch enabled monitors available now, some cheaper with 2 touch points and a bit more expensive with about 20 touch points like this one. http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16824016310 As far as multitouch operations go, the console, matrix and track view have been optimized for multitouch gestures. In the console you can operate multiple faders at one time and in the matrix you can turn on multiple cells at one time. You can also zoom and pinch zoom gestures and swipe across the screen to scroll, touch to select tracks etc. You can also touch plugin controls to manipulate them. Its definitely a huge workflow enhancement to have multitouch support built in, and an alternative in some ways to a control surface. Its very intuitive and effective to use and in many cases quicker than using a mouse. The touch workflow is very addictive once you start using it. Marketing will have some videos showing this in action soon. Besides the new features and Win 8 support, there are tons of fixes and improvements. Over 150 issues in our database were resolved.
post edited by Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk] - 2012/12/17 14:49:36
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 15:01:28
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Sounds like a winner to me Noel. But that is what I expected from you guys.
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 15:49:51
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Now, where's that like button ...
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 17:48:08
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Could I buy a touch screen monitor and use it with multi-touch, e.g., riding multiple faders as once? If so, wouldn't that be huge, like having Sonar on an iPad, but with all the power of a PC and a much larger screen? Ultimate control surface and monitor in one?
Yes X2A will work with any touch enabled monitor or on touch enabled ultrabooks. It should also work on the upcoming Microsoft Surface Pro. There are several multitouch enabled monitors available now, some cheaper with 2 touch points and a bit more expensive with about 20 touch points like this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16824016310
As far as multitouch operations go, the console, matrix and track view have been optimized for multitouch gestures. In the console you can operate multiple faders at one time and in the matrix you can turn on multiple cells at one time. You can also zoom and pinch zoom gestures and swipe across the screen to scroll, touch to select tracks etc.
You can also touch plugin controls to manipulate them.
Its definitely a huge workflow enhancement to have multitouch support built in, and an alternative in some ways to a control surface. Its very intuitive and effective to use and in many cases quicker than using a mouse. The touch workflow is very addictive once you start using it. Marketing will have some videos showing this in action soon.
Besides the new features and Win 8 support, there are tons of fixes and improvements. Over 150 issues in our database were resolved.
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VariousArtist
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 18:02:18
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Really looking forward to the touch screen support.
I've become really used to touch gestures, not only on my iPad but also my mac (which I use at work for developing software). I'm still more of a PC guy at heart (although Windows 8 tries my patience at times), and I still like to use a mouse and regular keyboard for some things, but I have to say that the touch gestures can be very expressive and intuitive if you have proper hardware and software support.
Often when developing software I'll switch over to my Windows development environment on my Mac, and the Apple hardware coupled with its touch gestures offered a superior experience then a native Windows one. However some of the new hardware aimed at Windows 8 touch seem very promising and I can say that their tactile experience mimics what I have grown accustomed to, so that's good news.
Windows 8 still has a number of anomalies that I continue to find annoying at best, and baffling at worst, but I'm learning to work around those. Hopefully Microsoft sorts those out sooner than later...
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 19:35:51
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Its beginning to look a like like Christmas around here. I'm becoming a little like a young kid anticipating the coming day. A bit unseemly for someone my age. 
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 19:43:38
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John
Its beginning to look a like like Christmas around here. I'm becoming a little like a young kid anticipating the coming day. A bit unseemly for someone my age.
It IS pretty exciting huh John...!!! Can't wait for this update...!
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vanceen
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 19:44:19
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I still never get e-mails. But then I've only been a customer for 22 years, what should I expect?
Luteman
Just got the email from Cake - here's the gist of it:
SONAR X2a coming soon
We are pleased to announce that the SONAR X2a update is almost ready for release and will be available later this month. The SONAR X2a update is free to all registered SONAR X2 users and introduces many new exciting features including:
Official Windows 8 support as well as Touch support for Intel-Inspired Ultrabooks and other touch-enabled devices Over 50 UI enhancements and improvements Accessibility support Enhanced Play List experience Enhancements and fixes And more Stay tuned for more information on availability!
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VariousArtist
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 20:25:18
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vanceen
I still never get e-mails. But then I've only been a customer for 22 years, what should I expect?
Same here on both accounts. I think after 22 years though that maybe we're still on the telegraph service ;-)
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 20:29:37
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So X2 was supposed to be a Win 7 compatible application when most of us bought it.
Will the X2a update install on Win 7?
If not will the bug fixes that are supposed to be included in the update be available to users of Win 7, or will these and future bug fixes be available to Win 7 (let alone Vista) users?
IOW will future support (repair) of X2 be only for Win 8 users?
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 20:42:11
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slartabartfast
So X2 was supposed to be a Win 7 compatible application when most of us bought it.
Will the X2a update install on Win 7?
If not will the bug fixes that are supposed to be included in the update be available to users of Win 7, or will these and future bug fixes be available to Win 7 (let alone Vista) users?
IOW will future support (repair) of X2 be only for Win 8 users?
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 21:51:55
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Totally underwhelmed by the prospect of touch support - I have no need for it although I understand others do. I just hope these new touch features don't make up the bulk of the "exciting new features and enhancements."
And like most people, I'd rather have 1 bug fixed than 10 exciting new features. Still looking forward to it though.
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/17 22:45:50
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Noel and Ryan: Please list the 250 resolved issues here. (Just kidding. Sort of.)
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DeeringAmps
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/18 10:16:31
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Sharke and Saxon are right!
I tracked a 6 hour PAID session on Saturday Win7x64, Sonar X1d Expanded.
Without a SINGLE issue!
Both 7 and X1 are "Mature" platforms.
Noel and Ryan; Get back to me when X2 is ready for prime time, will ya?
I'm having issues, albeit small, EVERYTIME I run X2 x64.
And I will admit I like the look and feel, I do all my own new projects in X2.
But no way would I run it with a client in the room; NO WAY!
Tom
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DeeringAmps
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/18 10:22:05
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Here's a little eye candy for Luteman & Bristol...  T
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/18 10:30:29
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Yum yum!
Lovely pair there Tom
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/18 10:47:49
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/18 11:03:45
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Bristol_Jonesey
Yum yum!
Lovely pair there Tom
Only in this kind of forum would "lovely pair" in regards to a photo get you a guitar and amp. ;)
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DeeringAmps
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/18 11:04:58
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/19 15:10:59
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From CW's fb page: 
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sharke
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/19 16:07:16
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Ooooo very Star Trek! I likee...
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/19 16:25:47
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If Cakewalk can get the whole gesture thing working natively with Win 8 and a touch enabled monitor I will be truly impressed...and be purchasing a new monitor and OS.
Regards,
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/19 16:27:56
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gustabo
From CW's fb page:
Engage!! Make it so.  Pretty cool though.
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Swiller
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Re:X2a coming soon!
2012/12/19 17:32:33
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Yes very nice indeed. I'm sold. It won't help me make music any better than a standard mouse, but its proper bondesque mission control so I want one. Now, I see the small touchscreens on offer for a couple of hundred pounds, 22 inch jobbies. But how much for the big muvvaz with the tilt ****, and where can I get one before Christmas? I have seen this one on offer at pc world and I like the size (82 inch), its a very reasonable £41000 inc vat. But that is slightly out of my price range. http://www.pcworldbusines...a491c29cef6f01d50ad5be
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