benjaminfrog
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Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
It's been 9 months and 5 days since X2 was released and we've had 1 update. 9 months and 7 days after the release of X1 we were offered X1 Expanded, which was Cake's 4th update to X1. Why the big discrepancy?
I realize that no one who actually knows the answer to that question is going to respond and I apologize for beating a dead horse, but, man, I'm itching for a few bug fixes.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 16:54:48
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And your issues are?
Bob Bone
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 17:09:44
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☄ Helpfulby Guitarmech111 2013/06/28 12:03:10
You are far from alone in feeling abandoned by Roland/Cakewalk. It is the main reason many have recently switched to competing software, and why many more are on the verge of doing the same.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 17:30:45
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☄ Helpfulby chefmike8888 2013/06/27 10:55:07
I will second this dead horse flogging. I have $0.99 apps on my iPhone that get updates and bug fixes on a weekly basis, but my $400 software doesn't get one in 9 months? The complete lack of feedback is a kick in the teeth. My guess is that they have no intention of ever updating X2 and are working on X3, their policy of silence a recognition that all hell would be let loose on the forums if they admitted it! So, they'll wait until they have the exciting new X3 promotional videos ready and hope that we'll be so giddy with apprehension at a brand new Sonar that we'll forget about the one we've already paid for.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 17:35:08
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☄ Helpfulby Guitarmech111 2013/06/28 12:03:40
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You are far from alone in feeling abandoned by Roland/Cakewalk. It is the main reason many have recently switched to competing software, and why many more are on the verge of doing the same.
I'm one of the '99' as well. My Q7 just arrived last night, and I'm just about to unwrap it. Am I done with Sonar? As stated in another post - 'No'...but...while I'm waiting for Sonar to grace us with one of their well kept secrets, be it an update, upgrade, new version, bankruptcy, whatever, I'll be working with, learning, & getting very used to a competitors DAW. Now...the longer Cake takes - it only stands to reason - the more comfortable I'll be getting 'over there', and may not necessarily want to come back. Ask me then if I'm done with Sonar. I may be. Who knows? - time will tell. In the meantime, I, and it looks like a number of others will be wading into different waters - different ripples - different waves - and a whole new, different temperature.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 17:45:18
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I don't see the delay in X2b as a bad thing, or even suspect, because it could be that Cakewalk just wants to get it right. But I do agree that being quiet about it isn't exactly comforting. It gives me more indication that X3 is next, which I'm certainly not ready for.
I do highly wish that CW will be much more forthcoming to bugs, fixes, and other issues, but I gather that isn't possible with the current economy and the amount of work I feel Cakewalk probably is self-inflicting.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 18:00:17
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...I do highly wish that CW will be much more forthcoming to bugs, fixes, and other issues, but I gather that isn't possible with the current economy and the amount of work I feel Cakewalk probably is self-inflicting.
It also doesn't bode well for them that Steinberg has now done 5... yup...count 'em 5 updates for Q already. Now some might say, "Wow, what's wrong over there that they need 5 updates"? But didn't Cake need to do X1 a, b, c & d before they got that right - and yet some would argue that it still isn't? Win, lose or draw with those updates, Steinberg is at least coming up to the surface every few months to make an appearance. And many say they're listening to their customers for these updates. Shh...listen! Do you hear anything???? Oh - The silence is deafening here!
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 18:52:00
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Given how X2 is being heavily discounted recently, the fact that the X2 content club membership ends 31st Aug and that there is a new pro tools version out I think it more likely that X3 will be the next update.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 18:58:16
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☄ Helpfulby chefmike8888 2013/06/27 10:57:34
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Given how X2 is being heavily discounted recently, the fact that the X2 content club membership ends 31st Aug and that there is a new pro tools version out I think it more likely that X3 will be the next update.
I would be fine with that, if the final content club offering was a free upgrade to X3. But it's beyond silly that we have to guess and speculate after all this time.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 19:16:04
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I will not be surprised if there is no update this year and they instead have some half-baked extra to sell us which will then be incorporated into the next release the following year...
The new X model's sales pattern...
I guess I was pretty much alone in my feelings about the surveys where they're first chiding what to focus on? I'm sure they are busy all along, but...................
I am one very unhappy camper right now.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 20:25:13
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I'm now using S1 producer 30% of the time. If it ever becomes 50/50 I'm gone. In my mind, X2 is the one I want, but the lack of forward momentum is discouraging. I started out buying only Cakewalk and Roland hardware/software but now I'm focused on generic products that will work with everything. Too many obsolete Roland products on the shelf.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 21:45:14
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Some valid arguments here in my opinion. Some I agree with, some I'm not sure on because of what we don't know. I think that's what bothers me the most...this whole secretive thing going on. It's sort of like me working on client material and not contacting that client to let them know approximately when I'll be done or the fact that "I'm working on it, but it may take a bit longer than expected."
I know the software business is a bit more difficult than that....but we have seen that there are bugs that are recognized in X2. Yet, there is no indication on whether or not they would be fixed. One thing that I am totally against, is when software doen't work right and then they sell you "the new version" that has the fixes and it costs you money. I just think that's totally wrong and if there is no way to remedy it, it's time to adjust your business to where you can.
For what it's worth, one thing I've learned in life that really makes me feel better, is when I return the silent treatment back to someone or some corporation. Just as they have been silent without giving us anything...if I decide to use another product, I'll just disappear from here being just as silent. It doesn't pay to rant, wish for or try to get through to a company that just feels silence is the best bet.
The other side of the coin playing Devils advocate, I've seen the Bakers take some shots BECAUSE they shared bugs, approximate releases and....just for posting on another topic, someone would jump in and give them a bag of crap about something Sonar related. If you're the boss for that company, you tell your people "stay off the boards...the less controversy, the better. You mean well, but it only opens you up for attack."
And that, is exactly what I've seen time and time again. Some of is deserved, other times....definitely not. It's a tough situation to be in for us, and for them if you look at things realistically. But that's just my take.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 22:48:08
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With the recent survey just a while ago it almost seems like they're just starting to work on it.
I doubt it, I'm sure they've been busy.
Myself I'm guessing an X3 release in Oct/ November...
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 23:01:30
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And your issues are?
Bob Bone
Off the top of my head... 1. Sonar doesn't retain velocity settings in PRV; specifically, it doesn't retain the fact the I've disabled it. 2. The PRV frequently opens zoomed way out for no reason. 3. If I try to set Snap to 1 sample, it sets it to 1600. I have to type "01" to get one sample. 4. Peak markers in TV only partially display until I wiggle my mouse around. 5. Tracks are periodically left out when exporting - even though they're highlighted. 6. X2 crashes more than any other version of I've used. I've had days when it's crashed 10 or more times.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/26 23:03:06
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The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate. Bushpianos
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 02:05:58
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benjaminfrog
robert_e_bone
And your issues are?
Bob Bone
Off the top of my head...
1. Sonar doesn't retain velocity settings in PRV; specifically, it doesn't retain the fact the I've disabled it.
2. The PRV frequently opens zoomed way out for no reason.
3. If I try to set Snap to 1 sample, it sets it to 1600. I have to type "01" to get one sample.
4. Peak markers in TV only partially display until I wiggle my mouse around.
5. Tracks are periodically left out when exporting - even though they're highlighted.
6. X2 crashes more than any other version of I've used. I've had days when it's crashed 10 or more times.
1-3 could have something to do with the snaps function "last touched" turn it off. 2? set it up and save it in screentsets, it saves zoomed settings. 4-wiggle my mouse.....next. 5 haven't seen this happen yet. 6 the crashing, if its crashing 10 times a day, it could be something other than sonar. a soundcard, a plug in, hard drive, ram. don't get me wrong, ive had sonar crash just because of sonar before but typically continuous crashes are something other. I do agree though, a little communication from the cakers would be nice. and the lack of an update (yes even one) is a little concerning. I cant say im not able to go about my day though and be very productive. im not being held back by show stoppers, annoyed ? why yes I am. there are several little quirks about x2 that gets on my nerves. sorry man, not here to crash the party, we do share some mutual feelings on the issue.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 03:08:40
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Studious
You are far from alone in feeling abandoned by Roland/Cakewalk. It is the main reason many have recently switched to competing software, and why many more are on the verge of doing the same.
I'm one of the '99' as well. My Q7 just arrived last night, and I'm just about to unwrap it.
Am I done with Sonar?
As stated in another post - 'No'...but...while I'm waiting for Sonar to grace us with one of their well kept secrets, be it an update, upgrade, new version, bankruptcy, whatever, I'll be working with, learning, & getting very used to a competitors DAW.
Now...the longer Cake takes - it only stands to reason - the more comfortable I'll be getting 'over there', and may not necessarily want to come back.
Ask me then if I'm done with Sonar. I may be. Who knows? - time will tell.
In the meantime, I, and it looks like a number of others will be wading into different waters - different ripples - different waves - and a whole new, different temperature.
As the old saying goes, "the grass is always greener on the other side". I think Sonar X2 is an amazing program. I've done a complete 180 degree turn, when X1 first appeared I hated the new interface, and the program was unusable it was so buggy, as everyone knows. But X2 fixed a lot of the problems that should have been fixed in beta. I began looking at Cubase 6.5, then 7, and also Digital Performer for Windows. When it comes to a DAW with notation, there are just not that many choices. I am finding X2 very stable, audio and MIDI all work as expected and many of the bugs I find are definitely not show-stoppers, many are graphics-based, for example, when a MIDI sequence has tempo changes, the waveform does not display correctly; audio is fine, it's the graphics. Same with staff view, playback is great, but notation errors exist. I just got done testing DP 8.04 for Windows over the past week. It is extremely unstable, very buggy and I had to remove it from my machine. It would not record audio, even though I am using a MOTU 2408 mk3 interface with the most up-to-date drivers. MIDI playback was horrible also; missing notes, notes being triggered that were not even on the same port or channel of any track I created and notes were not being ended properly, very long release times even though I put no cc commands in for release time. I am also using a MOTU MIDI Express XT MIDI interface with the most up-to-date drivers. I was on the phone with MOTU for about an hour, we tried everything but we could not get it to record audio or play back MIDI without major errors. I got off the phone, uninstalled it and shipped the program back to Sweetwater for a refund. I agree that the Cakewalk company image is not positive. They keep releasing new versions and not fixing bugs that they know about. It's one thing for software to have bugs, all software does. It's an entirely different issue when a company knows about specific bugs and does nothing to fix them. That disappoints me because it shows contempt for their customers and shows that craftsmanship is taking a back seat to profits. I want to see X2b as much as anyone. I have reported at least 7 unique bugs in X2a to CW. Will they fix any of them? Maybe, but then again, maybe not. I really wanted to move to Digital Performer, the interface is really nice and the program is very logical and not difficult to learn but it is unusable on my DAW, which has 16GB RAM, 2 fast 7200 rpm hard drives, a fast i7 multi-core processor and is dedicated solely to music production. Since I cannot stand the GUI of Cubase 7, that's out of the question. Like all of us human beings, software is not perfect and probably never will be. But when a company knows there are issues and won't fix them, and won't communicate with its user base in a forthright way, well, that's not good karma for them. And if Roland decides to stop selling Sonar, we all lose. JG www.jerrygerber.com
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 05:15:26
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☄ Helpfulby ampfixer 2013/06/27 06:33:23
ampfixer
I'm now using S1 producer 30% of the time. If it ever becomes 50/50 I'm gone. In my mind, X2 is the one I want, but the lack of forward momentum is discouraging. I started out buying only Cakewalk and Roland hardware/software but now I'm focused on generic products that will work with everything. Too many obsolete Roland products on the shelf.
Uncanny. That totally states where I'm at, including using Studio One Pro about a third of the time! I was a solid Roland buyer for a decade or more but they seem to have lost their energy, drive and market leadership.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 06:53:23
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☄ Helpfulby berlymahn 2013/06/27 20:46:26
FWIW, I was talking to Brandon at Gear Fest last weekend and he said there would be something released yet
This year. Of course he could not say what it was (x2b or x3).
He also said there are some very cool things in the works between sonar and Roland.
Sonar/cakewalk is alive and healthy.
So if you feel you've been wronged by the lack of communication or a fix and feel the need to jump ship, then you gotta do what you Gotta do.
Keep in mind that they are still feeling the effects of a corporate change.
Anyone that is in the business world that has been thru this knows that it is NOT just business as usual after that.
It takes time for things to settle out.
This translates into what we are seeing right now.
Be patient folks. Good things will come.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 07:37:23
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Release a patch, Bakers or I will be migrating to Reaper and eventually CuBase. I'll still use X2 because there are many things I like about it but the bugs are too much to bear for advanced use.
I know you guys read these threads. Don't let me (us) down.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 08:00:11
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dxp
FWIW, I was talking to Brandon at Gear Fest last weekend and he said there would be something released yet
This year. Of course he could not say what it was (x2b or x3).
He also said there are some very cool things in the works between sonar and Roland.
Sonar/cakewalk is alive and healthy.
So if you feel you've been wronged by the lack of communication or a fix and feel the need to jump ship, then you gotta do what you Gotta do.
Keep in mind that they are still feeling the effects of a corporate change.
Anyone that is in the business world that has been thru this knows that it is NOT just business as usual after that.
It takes time for things to settle out.
This translates into what we are seeing right now.
Be patient folks. Good things will come.
Thanks, dxp. Although I have no dire need for an X2b since X2a is working rather well for me overall, and I'm just not prone to conspiracies and speculation, it is nice to see a little light at the end of the proverbial tunnel... even if that light source is unknown.  Here's hoping that whatever it is that happens, whenever it does this year, it will be enough to calm the sometimes rocky SONAR boat around these waters. The forum upgrade was a big + in my book and at least shows that things are still moving forward. So I'm personally looking forward to see what's next... and I'll be patiently (and happily) using X2a until then.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
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Hmmm not saying anyone here doesn't have a complaint but it sounds kind of crybabyish , AND it sounds like every other product out there. General Motors? What do you do when your car has a bug? Or that new fridge you bought has a big honking dent in it? Or that can of spahgettios is out of date? Or your new paintball gun has an air leak? It can't be just me that everything I buy has something wrong with it?? Do you really think Cakewalk is purposely sitting back and putting out bad products? Doesn't sound like a company that has been in business that long and has such a big impact on the music industry is trying to stiff it's customers.
You guys are able to figure out all this software and do something with it , wether pro or hobbyist yet still feel this way.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
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P.S. the new forum has gotten back into using it on my handheld as well as I'm glad to have all the free downloads from the content club etc.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 09:07:45
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twistofate
Hmmm not saying anyone here doesn't have a complaint but it sounds kind of crybabyish , AND it sounds like every other product out there. General Motors? What do you do when your car has a bug? Or that new fridge you bought has a big honking dent in it? Or that can of spahgettios is out of date? Or your new paintball gun has an air leak? It can't be just me that everything I buy has something wrong with it?? Do you really think Cakewalk is purposely sitting back and putting out bad products? Doesn't sound like a company that has been in business that long and has such a big impact on the music industry is trying to stiff it's customers.
You guys are able to figure out all this software and do something with it , wether pro or hobbyist yet still feel this way.
Sonar and all of its products have done wonders for me and I'm quite happy with it all , even with some bugs.
Way to insult a large segment of the forum users. Lookit... when even the guys who get accused of being "fanbois" say "Yeah, there are some problems here that need to be addressed" something is wrong. I've seen a lot of silly and unreasonable "crybabying" (as you so tactfully put it) on here but when there are serious, legitimate and consistent bugs I don't think it's too much to ask for a patch. And who the heck buys a defective fridge, car, air gun, etc and just say "Welp, dems the breaks". You return it and get what you paid for. We don't have that option and most of us WANT to use the product. I think it's great when it's working properly. I just want to do my thing without wrestling with glitches and having to find workarounds for every third feature.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 09:13:03
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Bugs are a significant drag for me these days. It blows to do all that listening and then not get the benefits of all the settings you tweaked. Just saying.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 09:28:27
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i'm glad that noel jumped in on the tech post, but i feel that it is hypocritical of him to post there, but ignore the threads like this one.
c'mon, noel, i believe you owe your loyal user base a comment here. you're giving us the "nod's as good as a wink to a dead horse" treatment. problem is, the horse (loyal cakewalk user base) is still alive and kickin', and just needs a drink...
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 09:40:24
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Way to insult a large segment of the forum users. Lookit... when even the guys who get accused of being "fanbois" say "Yeah, there are some problems here that need to be addressed" something is wrong. I've seen a lot of silly and unreasonable "crybabying" (as you so tactfully put it) on here but when there are serious, legitimate and consistent bugs I don't think it's too much to ask for a patch. And who the heck buys a defective fridge, car, air gun, etc and just say "Welp, dems the breaks". You return it and get what you paid for. We don't have that option and most of us WANT to use the product. I think it's great when it's working properly. I just want to do my thing without wrestling with glitches and having to find workarounds for every third feature.
Yes I figured some would be insulted about my reply , and that's not to say if I buy something defective I just sit back and let it happen , I do stand up for what is right , trust that , and I do speak my mind and the truth. My view was that ALOT products out there seem to be " bugged" , nothing is perfect and you certainly can't please everyone. It just seems like a blame game on a good company with a good product. My Sonar has a crash now and then , does weird stuff , though it does seem that some of these problems might be other than software , we all have different computers , set- ups etc and the knowledge of how to use them. I certainly am not the type to kick something up or offend so accept my apology for those that it did. I'm grateful and amazed what cakewalk is offering as a product to allow me to do all that I can with it, right in my own home! Cake knows what's going on , and I'm sure they know its in their best interest to put out a quality product.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 10:04:01
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Yes I figured some would be insulted about my reply , and that's not to say if I buy something defective I just sit back and let it happen , I do stand up for what is right , trust that , and I do speak my mind and the truth. My view was that ALOT products out there seem to be " bugged" , nothing is perfect and you certainly can't please everyone.
It just seems like a blame game on a good company with a good product.
My Sonar has a crash now and then , does weird stuff , though it does seem that some of these problems might be other than software , we all have different computers , set- ups etc and the knowledge of how to use them.
I certainly am not the type to kick something up or offend so accept my apology for those that it did.
I'm grateful and amazed what cakewalk is offering as a product to allow me to do all that I can with it, right in my own home!
Cake knows what's going on , and I'm sure they know its in their best interest to put out a quality product.
Alright. Just think the crybaby comment could have been avoided while still making your point. Thing is I'm usually on Cake's side. They seem like decent dude's, it's a cool product and up until recently I've been impressed with their interaction with the customers. I don't blame them for not wanting to post here much considering the abuse they take over silly stuff but this is big and it effects us all. I took a chance with Sonar and I'm not regretting it yet but I've been anxiously awaiting a patch since Feb/March (which is when I was expecting some fixes). Still nothing and it's starting to worry me that they are indeed gonna try to pull a paid upgrade. I already paid... significantly more than many in fact due to some bad timing on my part. I want X2 to work. I NEED it to work. I can't afford to pay for an upgrade and considering that X2 is only half baked it seems logical that X3 would just introduce a whole new set of problems that we'll have to wait and hope for fixes for. I know every DAW has their issues but if they can't be arsed to even try to get this working a little better I'll just squat on X2 and use other programs to do the things X2 can't. That's why I mentioned Reaper. It's cheap/free, I already have a bunch of the plugs/instruments I need so that's not an issue and reports seem to indicate it's a pretty stable workhorse for most things. Then instead of giving Cakewalk any more money that will get squirreled away and I'll get Cubase. Between the three programs I should be able to do everything I need to.
I would rather just stick with X2 though because I like it and I know how to use it. It's very frustrating like a girlfriend who is perfect for you in every single way except she has a drinking problem and keeps stealing money from your wallet. She keeps telling you she'll stop but eventually you just gotta let go.
Perhaps it's time for an intervention for Cakewalk's own good. Lotta die hard Cake fans sounding like they're ready to jump ship. That ain't good.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 10:06:15
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Gah... stupid formatting.
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Re: Yet another thread about the current lack of an X2b
2013/06/27 10:44:01
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I think bugs with new functionality are understandable, even forgivable. Bugs with select all, volume automation, pan automation - These are fundamental and basic. When sonar audio follows the Envelope but display doesn't or vice versa, I have trouble accepting that the problem is in my ram. :-)
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StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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