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Re: Yet more troubles - now TTS crashes Sonar
2017/08/27 15:47:56
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I agree with Brando.. device that browse the internet are a dime a dozen and in this day and age if you can afford Sonar you certainly can afford a second device so your DAW can remain off line. As I have said and above post by Zagg also states,, it's all about the quality of your hardware and how well your set up with your PC.
I bet if you bought a PC from a DAW builder none of this might happen. If it does then you need a new RME or Motu interface which can handle heavy work, if that doesn't work you stop using the plug ins that are causing trouble.
Trouble shooting is a matter of swapping out components until you find the faulty part, sometimes there's more than one!
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Re: Yet more troubles - now TTS crashes Sonar
2017/08/28 19:02:45
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@taccess - That's an excellent point. you're right, I can't say for sure that the SACM spike is a definite sign that Sonar will crash. So, I spent all day yesterday actually composing in Sonar, giving myself a day off from cow anatomy. Most of the time the network card was disabled, though not all the time. I saw the SACM spike early on, but behold and lo, there was never actually a crash. So hmm, perhaps that is just a coincidence or else a red herring.
I have also learned that I can keep all my EW Play instruments connected, and when I want to export to audio, I don't need to freeze individual tracks, I can do it all at once, as long as I unckeck fast bounce. Makes the export take 20 minutes, but definitely a worthy trade-off.
So... I'm not going to downgrade Play after all, I'm going to keep my hard-wired keyboard, and I'm going to disable the network card most of the time I'm working in Sonar. Let's see how that goes after a few weeks. I REALLY need to get back to writing music, so I'm taking a break from all this computer stuff.
Thanks everyone!
Sonar Version: Platinum Audio Interface: M-Audio Delta Computer: Dell i5 3.1 GHz, 12Gb RAM, Windows 10 64-bit Soft Synths: EastWest PLAY Symphonic Orchestra MIDI Controllers: M-Audio 2x2 MidiSport Anniv Edition Settings: 16-Bit, Sample Rate 44.1k, ASIO Buffer Size 128-1024, Record/Playback I/O Buffers play:256k, rec: 64k, Total Round Trip Latency 48 ms Check out my work here
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Re: Yet more troubles - now TTS crashes Sonar
2017/08/28 20:18:23
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jkoseattle
@taccess - That's an excellent point. you're right, I can't say for sure that the SACM spike is a definite sign that Sonar will crash. So, I spent all day yesterday actually composing in Sonar, giving myself a day off from cow anatomy. Most of the time the network card was disabled, though not all the time. I saw the SACM spike early on, but behold and lo, there was never actually a crash. So hmm, perhaps that is just a coincidence or else a red herring.
I have also learned that I can keep all my EW Play instruments connected, and when I want to export to audio, I don't need to freeze individual tracks, I can do it all at once, as long as I unckeck fast bounce. Makes the export take 20 minutes, but definitely a worthy trade-off.
So... I'm not going to downgrade Play after all, I'm going to keep my hard-wired keyboard, and I'm going to disable the network card most of the time I'm working in Sonar. Let's see how that goes after a few weeks. I REALLY need to get back to writing music, so I'm taking a break from all this computer stuff.
Thanks everyone!
Let's hope the problems are a thing of the past  Best of luck.
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Re: Yet more troubles - now TTS crashes Sonar
2017/08/29 12:22:50
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I had problem with opening TTS. Someone on this forum advised me to open it as administrator and problem was solved. Maybe this solution will help you out.
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jkoseattle
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Re: Yet more troubles - now TTS crashes Sonar
2017/08/31 22:10:41
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Update: Sonar still crashes even with the NIC card enabled. I'm done futzing around with this, I'm going to live with regular crashes and just work on music for a while. I just wanted to post that in case anyone else ran across this thread and thought "Aha! Disable my NIC card!"
Nope.
Sonar Version: Platinum Audio Interface: M-Audio Delta Computer: Dell i5 3.1 GHz, 12Gb RAM, Windows 10 64-bit Soft Synths: EastWest PLAY Symphonic Orchestra MIDI Controllers: M-Audio 2x2 MidiSport Anniv Edition Settings: 16-Bit, Sample Rate 44.1k, ASIO Buffer Size 128-1024, Record/Playback I/O Buffers play:256k, rec: 64k, Total Round Trip Latency 48 ms Check out my work here
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Zargg
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Re: Yet more troubles - now TTS crashes Sonar
2017/09/01 06:30:48
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Perhaps enable Auto save, to prevent losing any work?
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taccess
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Re: Yet more troubles - now TTS crashes Sonar
2017/09/01 08:05:31
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jkoseattle
Update: Sonar still crashes even with the NIC card enabled. I'm done futzing around with this, I'm going to live with regular crashes and just work on music for a while. I just wanted to post that in case anyone else ran across this thread and thought "Aha! Disable my NIC card!"
Nope.
Your NIC was showing over 3000us with latencymon, so it is clearly a problem and disabling has solved the issues you would have been expireriencing if any from that. If you still have a random crash it's not the end of the world so long as your not crashing everyday ? once a week or once a fortnight or once a month is exceptable and could be just related to commands intililizing combined with other commands etc etc. If Platinum crashes everyday however, then you need to dig deeper and do more troubleshooting until you find what's causing it. It's up to you ! Just before I go I will say make sure all your buffer settings in platinum are turned up: Playback I/O Record I/O Midi There are more also, plugin buffers, extra buffers, disk buffers etc etc, a lot of these settings are overlooked by some so I thought I would mention it .
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jkoseattle
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Re: Yet more troubles - now TTS crashes Sonar
2017/09/01 13:56:22
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Thanks.
It crashes about once a day. But life's too short. I have a real life too, and I come down to the studio to work on music, not computers. At some point I gotta say enough is enough, and I'm now at that point. I just wanted to come here in case people having similar issues were going to think that disabling the NIC card was the solution.
Sonar Version: Platinum Audio Interface: M-Audio Delta Computer: Dell i5 3.1 GHz, 12Gb RAM, Windows 10 64-bit Soft Synths: EastWest PLAY Symphonic Orchestra MIDI Controllers: M-Audio 2x2 MidiSport Anniv Edition Settings: 16-Bit, Sample Rate 44.1k, ASIO Buffer Size 128-1024, Record/Playback I/O Buffers play:256k, rec: 64k, Total Round Trip Latency 48 ms Check out my work here
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Re: Yet more troubles - now TTS crashes Sonar
2017/09/01 14:40:01
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Sorry to hear that it crashes so frequently.
If you have a friend you can (temporarily) borrow another kind of Audio Interface from, it could be worth checking.
As mentioned earlier, I experienced much of the same behavior when I had my M-Audio 1010lt.
It was not stable under XP, Vista or Win 7, so I ended up selling it.
I have had an Echo Audio 8, and a Lexicon IO 42 and a RME Ucx since then.
I have not had these issues since switching AI.
Ken Nilsen ZarggBBZWin 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
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Re: Yet more troubles - now TTS crashes Sonar
2017/09/01 14:42:06
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Latency issues rarely have anything to do with crashing. More to do with pops/clicks/noise and the SONAR audio engine just stopping (and turning off). They are big problems, but isn't the source of your crashes. Without looking at the crash dumps there is no real way to say what is crashing or why.
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