BKTormey
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<<Enhanced Modulation Matrix
All 16 Waveshapers are now accessible via the Modulation Matrix opening up a huge variety of new sound shaping possibilities.>>
That'll do it for me. I've been waiting 9 years for this feature. Thanks Cakewalk.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/04 21:51:44
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I read that it was free for recent purchases of X1 (If you purchased X1 in June or after), but I can't seem to figure out how to download it. Anyone able to get the free deal? Am I dreaming, been watching for it since I purchased.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/04 22:02:30
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All right I did it, I broke down and got it but it didn't seem to dl with any documentation (well, true it had a read me file)....but now do I have to just go and play or is there a pdf manual?
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/04 22:03:30
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hmm, I'm getting ready to start my MBA and was planning on taking a break from music for a while. This might change my mind.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/04 22:26:07
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All right I did it, I broke down and got it but it didn't seem to dl with any documentation (well, true it had a read me file)....but now do I have to just go and play or is there a pdf manual?
I found a user guide....it is found hiding...\Programs\Cakewalk\Z3TA+2\Documentation ...where else would it be...DOH!
post edited by boblette - 2011/08/05 08:13:49
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/04 23:02:15
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I needed this synth like I needed another hole in my head but I am really digging the possibilities.
Thanks, Cake!
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/04 23:56:24
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Z3ta 1.5 is free w/ SOnar - there is an upgrade path (or maybe it is coming) for those w/ 1.5 already.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 01:40:55
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I'm very interested in upgrading, but I'm in the middle of a project and don't want to screw things up... Can both Zeta's co-exist nicely?
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 01:55:22
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Tho I haven't tried them both at the same time, v2 does not overwrite v1.5 so it should be fine.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 02:08:46
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I didn't even wait. I saw it and went for it. Been playing with it for several hours now. What a purchase!!!
Thanks Cake.
This is nice People!! UI is really sweet and easy to understand and figure out. I started with the default patch and turned it into something unbelievable!!
The arp step seq seems to be driven by a midi file. Which would make sense. You could create your own midi file, load it in and away you go!!! The possibilities!!
And did I mention this thing sounds great!!! Well worth what I spent.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 02:29:02
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Have you tried dragging / dropping midi into the arp? I wonder if that would work as well. Update: Doesn't work! Could be a cool feature request tho! :)
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I just installed it:) Love it already! Going to be great to play with this little beast.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 08:41:24
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Ver 2 entirely lives up to, and maybe even exceeds, expectations -- if you like the sound examples on the new product page, you'll love this synth.
There's way more functionaility than Ver 1 and, to my ears, the result is a VSTi that is noticeably better sounding than the original, and more usable to boot (I'm thinking of a number of soft synths that sound great, but which i somehow rarely seem to find places for in my tracks).
The V2 patches are organized much better and (so far) seem top notch (i've only spent an hour or 2 with Ver 2 so far). This is huge to me, because i can be pretty lazy when it comes to DIY patches. Then again, the GUI improvements make me think that Ver 2 is one of those soft synths that will be a blast to program.
I had a minor snag entering the registration code -- for some reason, Ver 2 wouldn't accept a pasted-in code. Eventually i figured out that i had to enter it manually -- including all the dashes -- but apart from that, it's been totally smooth sailing.
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BKTormey
<<Enhanced Modulation Matrix
All 16 Waveshapers are now accessible via the Modulation Matrix opening up a huge variety of new sound shaping possibilities.>>
That'll do it for me. I've been waiting 9 years for this feature. Thanks Cakewalk.
Would be great but unfortunately the XY part of the waveshaper is now broken - that was my favourite feature. Mousing in it (or using a controller) does not affect the sound - only when you use the 16 shapers directly (and they are too small to be able to select easily with a mouse) It would also be cool to see the effect of say a lfo on the waveshape in realtime
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 09:15:43
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No surprise, a number of bugs reported over at KVR. Perhaps a v2.1 will be along in the next months? Even at that, I love the sound and the arp - and especially that they've included some EBM-style sequences, an oft-overlooked genre. Very inspiring!! This may quickly become a go-to synth and can easily kickstart creativity and put it into high gear. KEv
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 09:19:34
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GlennKay
-- for some reason, Ver 2 wouldn't accept a pasted-in code. Eventually i figured out that i had to enter it manually -- including all the dashes -- but apart from that, it's been totally smooth sailing.
Regards
Glenn
I copied and pasted my code in. I did it from a notepad document that I made from my email I got from Cakewalk. I alwas do this for all my purchases so that I can open my serial # and Reg code from just about anything.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 17:55:29
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Well, for the price (upgrade) I'm not sorry to have bought it, but I went through most of the so called new patches and honestly feel they're very 2009 (ie, old school). I always was more of a sound tweaker with Z3ta anyway, but was hoping they'd come with some really solid 'fresh' sounds.
As compared to say Dune (Synapse), the sounds left me scratchin' my head.
But again - for the price, not a bad purchase.
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Brandon Ryan [Roland]
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 18:01:23
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Well, for the price (upgrade) I'm not sorry to have bought it, but I went through most of the so called new patches and honestly feel they're very 2009 (ie, old school). I always was more of a sound tweaker with Z3ta anyway, but was hoping they'd come with some really solid 'fresh' sounds.
As compared to say Dune (Synapse), the sounds left me scratchin' my head.
But again - for the price, not a bad purchase.
With much respect Billy - I have to say after listeing to the Dune sound demos, I'm left scrachin' my head a bit about your take on this.  To me, a lot of the Z3TA+ 2 sounds are super-modern...but maybe I myself am stuck in 2009...it was a good year after-all. 
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 18:34:43
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I really like the Sound Fx presets. Of course Billy's Correct where a little tweaking is needed but I see that with any Virtual Synth I own just so that you can make it your own.... The stacked effects are what really shoots out in the presets , Disable them all and your left with a dull preset.
Btw Allowing to load any midi file is dope. although It would be nice if you can edit the patterns within. I just don't get the visual display in the arp, I can't seem to do anything within that window.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 18:47:42
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papatomany
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Hey, folks. It says XP (SP3) is bare minimum. Is there some reason SP2 won't work?
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Lanceindastudio
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Only thing I can think of is because you should just be on SP3. No reason not to be unless I'm missing something(which I like to do from time to time lol).
Id probably put down $100 and a stella artois that SP3 would do it though
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The reason I'm not is that SP3 crashes several things I use regularly.
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hmm... that is quite peculiar-
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papatomany
Hey, folks. It says XP (SP3) is bare minimum. Is there some reason SP2 won't work?
SP2 and previous do not natively support .PNG files. SP
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ba_midi
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 20:13:01
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ba_midi
Well, for the price (upgrade) I'm not sorry to have bought it, but I went through most of the so called new patches and honestly feel they're very 2009 (ie, old school). I always was more of a sound tweaker with Z3ta anyway, but was hoping they'd come with some really solid 'fresh' sounds.
As compared to say Dune (Synapse), the sounds left me scratchin' my head.
But again - for the price, not a bad purchase.
With much respect Billy - I have to say after listeing to the Dune sound demos, I'm left scrachin' my head a bit about your take on this. To me, a lot of the Z3TA+ 2 sounds are super-modern...but maybe I myself am stuck in 2009...it was a good year after-all.
If I had time -- I'd put together a little sampling of the two. Maybe over the weekend, but I doubt it. Some of the Dune sounds are spot on "now" sounds (I own it, so I don't remember if the demo was different). Some of the Z2 sounds are ok/nice, but just didn't blow me away as presets I would run to for now. But, it's all horse racin' as we know ;) Oh and ps -- 2009 was a great year for Trance ! :D
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 21:19:01
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ba_midi
Well, for the price (upgrade) I'm not sorry to have bought it, but I went through most of the so called new patches and honestly feel they're very 2009 (ie, old school). I always was more of a sound tweaker with Z3ta anyway, but was hoping they'd come with some really solid 'fresh' sounds.
As compared to say Dune (Synapse), the sounds left me scratchin' my head.
But again - for the price, not a bad purchase.
With much respect Billy - I have to say after listeing to the Dune sound demos, I'm left scrachin' my head a bit about your take on this. To me, a lot of the Z3TA+ 2 sounds are super-modern...but maybe I myself am stuck in 2009...it was a good year after-all.
If I had time -- I'd put together a little sampling of the two. Maybe over the weekend, but I doubt it.
Some of the Dune sounds are spot on "now" sounds (I own it, so I don't remember if the demo was different). Some of the Z2 sounds are ok/nice, but just didn't blow me away as presets I would run to for now.
But, it's all horse racin' as we know ;)
Oh and ps -- 2009 was a great year for Trance ! :D
With all due respect, I believe what Mr Perlstein was referring to were the demo's on the Synapse website, not the actual sounds available with Synapse itself. Some of the website demo's are indeed a little cheesy. Although, having said that, the same could be said for Z3ta+2 - depending on your tastes, of course. Anyway, for the money, Z3ta+2 is a steal. As long as by the the time you've found the sound you want, you haven't forgotten what you're looking for.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 21:43:26
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Well, for the price (upgrade) I'm not sorry to have bought it, but I went through most of the so called new patches and honestly feel they're very 2009 (ie, old school). I always was more of a sound tweaker with Z3ta anyway, but was hoping they'd come with some really solid 'fresh' sounds.
As compared to say Dune (Synapse), the sounds left me scratchin' my head.
But again - for the price, not a bad purchase.
With much respect Billy - I have to say after listeing to the Dune sound demos, I'm left scrachin' my head a bit about your take on this. To me, a lot of the Z3TA+ 2 sounds are super-modern...but maybe I myself am stuck in 2009...it was a good year after-all.
If I had time -- I'd put together a little sampling of the two. Maybe over the weekend, but I doubt it.
Some of the Dune sounds are spot on "now" sounds (I own it, so I don't remember if the demo was different). Some of the Z2 sounds are ok/nice, but just didn't blow me away as presets I would run to for now.
But, it's all horse racin' as we know ;)
Oh and ps -- 2009 was a great year for Trance ! :D
With all due respect, I believe what Mr Perlstein was referring to were the demo's on the Synapse website, not the actual sounds available with Synapse itself.
Some of the website demo's are indeed a little cheesy.
Although, having said that, the same could be said for Z3ta+2 - depending on your tastes, of course.
Anyway, for the money, Z3ta+2 is a steal. As long as by the the time you've found the sound you want, you haven't forgotten what you're looking for.
Just for the record, it was Mr. Ryan who said that, not Mr. Perlstein. I haven't checked out Synapse's stuff at all. SP
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 22:42:02
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Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
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ba_midi
Well, for the price (upgrade) I'm not sorry to have bought it, but I went through most of the so called new patches and honestly feel they're very 2009 (ie, old school). I always was more of a sound tweaker with Z3ta anyway, but was hoping they'd come with some really solid 'fresh' sounds.
As compared to say Dune (Synapse), the sounds left me scratchin' my head.
But again - for the price, not a bad purchase.
With much respect Billy - I have to say after listeing to the Dune sound demos, I'm left scrachin' my head a bit about your take on this. To me, a lot of the Z3TA+ 2 sounds are super-modern...but maybe I myself am stuck in 2009...it was a good year after-all.
If I had time -- I'd put together a little sampling of the two. Maybe over the weekend, but I doubt it.
Some of the Dune sounds are spot on "now" sounds (I own it, so I don't remember if the demo was different). Some of the Z2 sounds are ok/nice, but just didn't blow me away as presets I would run to for now.
But, it's all horse racin' as we know ;)
Oh and ps -- 2009 was a great year for Trance ! :D
With all due respect, I believe what Mr Perlstein was referring to were the demo's on the Synapse website, not the actual sounds available with Synapse itself.
Some of the website demo's are indeed a little cheesy.
Although, having said that, the same could be said for Z3ta+2 - depending on your tastes, of course.
Anyway, for the money, Z3ta+2 is a steal. As long as by the the time you've found the sound you want, you haven't forgotten what you're looking for.
Heh, that's funny ;) I'm actually doing a track right now - and it started because of a sound I like in Z2 (with some tweaking). I agree it's a good "deal" overall.
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Re:Z3ta+2...should I wait...
2011/08/05 22:43:17
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Just for the record, it was Mr. Ryan who said that, not Mr. Perlstein. I haven't checked out Synapse's stuff at all. SP Aside from the possibly cheesy 'demo sounds', I find I use DUNE a lot these days. It's worth checking out in my opinion.
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