To me, a lot of the Z3TA+ 2 sounds are super-modern...

Brandon,  I forgot to ask ... can you give me the name of let's say 2 or 3 patches (more if you want) you think are "super modern"?   I'd be curious to see which ones fall to that category for you.

I'll give you some back as well ;)

"super modern" is that the latest Genre? Wow I'm really getting old, I still like making up my own sounds. Like we used to do before Synths had presets. Anyone remember patch charts?

By the way, I'm buying this badboy in the morning. I won't get any sleep if I get it tonight!

Just for the record, it was Mr. Ryan who said that, not Mr. Perlstein. I haven't checked out Synapse's stuff at all.

SP

My apologies Mr Perlstein. I dunno, late at night (very early in the morning) you Cakewalk guys look all the same to me. 

I'm just glad the sounds are now categorised. That sold it to me. I loved version 1.5 but it was a pain to use quickly

Surealtime


"super modern" is that the latest Genre? Wow I'm really getting old, I still like making up my own sounds. Like we used to do before Synths had presets. Anyone remember patch charts?

By the way, I'm buying this badboy in the morning. I won't get any sleep if I get it tonight!

I like either tweaking presets so they become something new, or making patches from scratch as well.

Z3ta 1 and 2 are both very powerful in this regard.

Well I must say, I was disappointed at first. Just listening to it, it sounded duller than the original Z3ta, but I went in and changed the precision setting to highest and turned oversampling on and that makes a big difference!

Grem

UnderTow


Oooh this looks tasty!

I'm reading the Z3ta+2 pages. Specifically the bit about the new SRC algorithm. Can this "HIGHEST" mode be used during live playback or is it like Rapture where it only affects offline bouncing/rendering?

UnderTow

You have a choice. Real time over sampling. And Off Line over sampling. They are two different settings!! You can have your cake and eat it too!!

Great! Thanks. :-)

UnderTow

g_randybrown


I'm just now experimenting with Z3ta that came with X1 so I have some questions for you guys:
1) can you change the notes of sequences (ie 8-bar first contact)?
2) The upgrade would cost me $49 as opposed to $99 having the Z3ta that came with X1?
3) where can I get tuts on what all the parameters do...or should I just learn by experimenting.
Thanks very much,
Randy

 1) In Z3ta 2 you can load any mid file you like into Z3ta, The only thing I see is you would have to edit your pattern exactly how you like it outside of Z3ta then load it into. Although you can do some tweaking within. But not to the notes them selves at least from what I see.

2) As long as you own Z3ta now you can upgrade for $50, You can find out when you go to your account to buy it.

3) I suppose an overview video would be cool,Im Sure there in the works or someone is.. I would just twist a knob and see and hear what it dose .And see if it fits into your track.

I very much like the sounds and features Z3ta 2 offers. $50 for a Synth of this caliber is so worth it..

Randy,

1.  I haven't messed with patterns much, see above post.

2.  Pricing, see above post.

3.  There are no tutorials (yet!), and I'm not sure how much of Z3TA is covered in the synth book.  But Zeta is a fairly straightforward synth.  Try initializing it, and you have a blank slate.  The AMP Envelope is hardwired, so you just have to import a wave and start tweaking the amp to get a tone.  From there, just keep adding - Filter, another envelope, LFO.  The effects are on a separate page you open.  There is a lot of new stuff that makes Z3TA 2 easier, tho it still has the 16 modulation routings which is where the real fun starts.  but wait until you can crawl a sound before you get too involved in it.

@

ba_midi

Music Miscreant

 

Wow- somehow I didn't see this post until now.   Sure I'll get some samples up.

I was beginning to think it was something I'd said... it normally is. 


I await with bated breath. 

g_randybrown

Music Miscreant

ba_midi

Music Miscreant

 

Wow- somehow I didn't see this post until now.   Sure I'll get some samples up.

I was beginning to think it was something I'd said... it normally is. 


I await with bated breath. 

For some reason I never received an email showing a response for my post either, I just started searching after just now buying Z3ta+2...I wait with baited breath also.
My question though is: how long does it take to get the serial number.... it's been about 30 minutes so far. Does the validation have to be processed by a real person?
Thanks,
Randy

Who knows, Randy, buying from Cakewalk always seems like such a random & erratic affair.
As for validation... it could be a real person but, these days, with software so often showing us it has a mind of its own, it could just as easily be automated. 
Anyway, I wish you the best of luck. 


Oh, & Ba Midi... if you're scanning over this, any dune stuff yet? 


P.S. Randy, it is actually spelt 'bated', from the word 'abated'. So it's like... to hold your breath.     

Who knows, Randy, buying from Cakewalk always seems like such a random & erratic affair. As for validation... it could be a real person but, these days, with software so often showing us it has a mind of its own, it could just as easily be automated. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck. Oh, & Ba Midi... if you're scanning over this, any dune stuff yet? P.S. Randy, it is actually spelt 'bated', from the word 'abated'. So it's like... to hold your breath.

MM - I'm booting up some tracks I did with Dune now, so I'll be back to post some pointers to them shortly.

And, I don't want others to get the wrong impression.   I think Z2 (when they get some of the bugs out) is a great synth just like version 1 was.  The types of sounds that can be 'made' with it is endless.  And with the right programming approach they usually come out sounding like the big boys (aren't we all tired of the cheezy stuff?).

Not being impressed with the patches is a far cry from not being impressed with the synth.

ba_midi


Ok here ya go ...  a 3 track collage; just snipits/sections not whole tracks.

The first one -- Dune is the main lead and arp type stuff as well.

The 2nd one -- Dune is the 'melody' synth   Also the windy sounding pads.

Last one -- Dune is lead melody (Z2 is the arp stuff);  I'm actually just working on this track this week.

http://www.ba-midi.com/st...%20Sound%20Samples.mp3

I'll leave it up for awhile.

Thanks for letting me hear dune in action like that - truly generous of you. 


And yes, I see what you mean... sounds cool. Wallet out I believe, & less excuses when Dune arrives. 


   


 

Teksonik

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

javahut


What about Z3TA+ 2 effects only VSTs, like Z3TA+ had? Are there any? No big deal if there aren't. I just wanna make sure I'm not missing anything.

Sorry not this time around. However, if you have the original Z3TA+ you can leave it installed and use as effects processor alongside Z3TA+ 2.

Why no FX version?  Now with the ability to change routing,  a Z3ta+ FX version is even more desirable and quite frankly expected as part of the upgrade from 1 to 2............I don't remember reading anywhere there would be no FX version included in the upgrade........

Drag-n-drop Routing

Z3TA+ 2’s effects section features easy routing of all effects and a new, flexible distortion module. The distortion module includes the new Hypertube algorithm and can effect the filter busses, the effects section, or both.

Don't get me wrong I'm loving Z3TA+ Version 2 but am seriously disappointed there is no FX version........

Agreed....also very disappointed...but thats what I get for not researching forum before I buy...when will I ever learn.

Its like when you buy food these days ...you get less for more money. Not complaining about the cost here but I am def not happy there is no FX...I use it all the time in earlier version on my acoustic guitar tracks, electric guitar tracks and bass tacks. So "not this time around" I wonder what that means...sounds like its gonna cost me.

I too was dissapointed regarding no _FX.dll.  I confess, though, that I never used the previous version as an effects module.  It would be a nice update.