HammerHead
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are you a software thief ?
do you download from bittorrent ? usenet ? warez sites ? only you know the answer. certain to be an overwhelming YES from this crowd.
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SteveJL
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 08:39:51
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ORIGINAL: HammerHead
do you download from bittorrent ?
usenet ?
warez sites ?
only you know the answer.
certain to be an overwhelming YES from this crowd.
Nope, never bothered with any of them myself. Besides being against my personal ethics, I don't want any of their crap on my pc. 
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jb
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 08:45:19
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ORIGINAL: HammerHead
do you download from bittorrent ?
usenet ?
warez sites ?
only you know the answer.
certain to be an overwhelming YES from this crowd.
Isn't BitTorrent a p2p a file distribution protocol used in mac world and perfectly legitimate?
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daverich
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 08:48:34
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nope no warez here.
Not since I stopped using autotune, and that was only 'cos of the PACE issue.
Kind regards
Dave Rich
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HammerHead
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 08:52:40
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ORIGINAL: jb
ORIGINAL: HammerHead
do you download from bittorrent ?
usenet ?
warez sites ?
only you know the answer.
certain to be an overwhelming YES from this crowd.
Isn't BitTorrent a p2p a file distribution protocol used in mac world and perfectly legitimate?
only if you ignore the copyrighted material thats distributed
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WhyBe
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 08:58:17
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Nope, I buy all my stuff (even Waves). I have access to anything I want for free (even Waves).
Keep product development alive....buy your software!
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jb
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 09:15:13
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ORIGINAL: HammerHead
ORIGINAL: jb
ORIGINAL: HammerHead
do you download from bittorrent ?
usenet ?
warez sites ?
only you know the answer.
certain to be an overwhelming YES from this crowd.
Interesting, it's what Propellerhead uses for mac dls but if you say so ...
Isn't BitTorrent a p2p a file distribution protocol used in mac world and perfectly legitimate?
only if you ignore the copyrighted material thats distributed
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themidiroom
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 09:25:33
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Never downloaded from any of these.
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lazarous
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 09:34:27
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I will admit that in the PAST I've used software from warez sites... in order to try a demo of software I was considering purchasing. Sometimes I did, sometimes I didn't, but after the evaluation, I blew it away and rebuilt the computer.
Haven't had to in the past 3 years or so. I charge for my services, and I can't sleep at night if I'm stealing from someone else.
If only companies would put out decent demos.
Corey
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 09:37:45
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Yep, but anything I actually get use out of is paid for these days.
Some music that I wouldn't have paid for anyway is downloaded, but usually it's a friend that gets it because I'm too lazy. I have BitLord on my laptop, but it doesn't get much use.
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tonester
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 10:24:20
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ORIGINAL: HammerHead
do you download from bittorrent ?
usenet ?
warez sites ?
only you know the answer.
certain to be an overwhelming YES from this crowd.
Why do you think it's an overwhelming YES from THIS crowd? Do Cakewalk users strike you as being software pirates? If anything, I would say quite the opposite, myself included. What is the point of this thread, anyway? Tony www.myspace.com/livesayrox
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HammerHead
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 10:25:54
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ORIGINAL: tonester
ORIGINAL: HammerHead
do you download from bittorrent ?
usenet ?
warez sites ?
only you know the answer.
certain to be an overwhelming YES from this crowd.
Why do you think it's an overwhelming YES from THIS crowd? Do Cakewalk users strike you as being software pirates? If anything, I would say quite the opposite, myself included.
What is the point of this thread, anyway?
Tony
www.myspace.com/livesayrox
dont get in such a tizzy clompers. does it have to have a point ?
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zungle
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 10:31:05
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1....................Nope................... All registered .............and paid for.
2..................You need to study up a bit on what companies attract what users................
3..........................Why do care...........?
4............Thanks but no thanks ............FOR THE TROLL
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ReValveiT
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 10:31:56
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I used Warez distributions of Pro Audio 9 and Sonar 1 2 and 3 back in my skint days (NEVER made any $$$ from them) When I had the disposable income I bought Sonar 4 and subsequently upgraded to 5 and 6. I use the odd Waves plug occasionally, but I would never buy them unless they dropped the price and ditched the dongle. Sometimes when I see a plug-in recommended here, I will download a warez version to give it a good try out. If it's good and I use it a lot, I'll buy it. Some stuff is worth laying down the cash for... Other stuff isn't. If I made great wadges of cash from this stuff then I'd buy it all regardless (though I would still use the cracks on the dongled stuff) Will I go to hell for this? I'm not religious so I say no. But who knows? 
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 10:34:52
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ORIGINAL: tonester
What is the point of this thread, anyway?
Stirring the puddin'. Notice the pirate never said whether he used warez or not. He just accused the rest of us of it... It's like the northern reporters calling Tennesseans racists because different bunch of Yankees ran a racist ad down here. Guilt by association. We're all supposed to be warez kiddies because some on here do use it.
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tecton
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 10:46:25
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How is Bittorrent warez????
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corrupted
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 10:58:02
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ORIGINAL: tecton
How is Bittorrent warez????
It's widely used to download warez... that's all.
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 11:26:01
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ORIGINAL: HammerHead
certain to be an overwhelming YES from this crowd.
This crowd strikes me as quite the opposite. The obvious "argh Jim lads" make the occasional post asking how to record vocals on a midi track.
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Vuzz13
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 11:40:58
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Well, I am using a stolen laptop with a cracked version of Sonar 14, and a host of
plug-ins I ripped of Donald Rumsfelds' unsecured wireless network....
Is that wrong? Cause if someone had just told me that it was wrong I wouldn't have
done it.....
Oh, and I need a manual too....
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CoteRotie
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 11:43:05
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EVERYTHING I use (for music or otherwise) is legitimate bought and paid for. Or free like the excellent OpenOffice (compatible) replacement for Microsoft Office.
Wait, wait, what key is it in? GA-X58A-UD3 motherboard Intel i7 950 CPU w/12 G RAM ATI Radeon 4350 graphics 3 cats 1 crazydog Lynx AES16/Aurora 8 SCA N72 J99 & A12 pres. Adam A7 Monitors Win 10 SONAR Platinum 64 bit
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Rinkwraith
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 11:43:25
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Well, I am using a stolen laptop with a cracked version of Sonar 14, and a host of
plug-ins I ripped of Donald Rumsfelds' unsecured wireless network....
Is that wrong? Cause if someone had just told me that it was wrong I wouldn't have
done it.....
Oh, and I need a manual too....
This forum will tolerate just about anything except saying you need a manual - you've got the pdfs after all.  
post edited by Rinkwraith - 2006/11/06 12:00:15
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jlgrimes
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 11:43:29
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No. I pay for the programs I use.
I just feel that software companies provide services to PC users and should be paid for their services.
A nice analogy, I'd like to use is if you worked at McDonalds or anywhere for 40 + hours a week cleaned floors, made burgers and fries worked the cash registers dealed with a wide variety of customer attitudes on payday, you'd expect to be paid for your hard work, probably even extra because of overtime.
Software companies have to write tedious code, test tedious code or either invest in hiring somebody (usually a large group of people to do this task. These are usually people with College degrees who invested in this field of work.). Software programming can be a 40+ hour a week job for some people so I am pretty sure they expect to be paid for their services.
If everyone paid for their software, prices would also go down because the extra money software companies would get would force them to lower prices because of increased competition for these dollars, so I think paying for software would be the right thing to do and would benefit most people in the end.
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 11:51:11
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The best software I have (apart from Sonar) came via bittorrent check it out: http://kubuntu.org/download.php This is more mindless FUD against Bittorrent, it's just a transport mechanism. Like saying 'do you use TCP/IP if so you must be a kiddie porn traffiker' Also can we get over saying 'downloading music from 'napster' (insert filesharing programme name here) is theft', it's not; it is Copyright Infringement, a quite different crime. Damn! When did I become a pedant?! ;-) Child
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Vuzz13
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 12:55:24
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True, so true!......how about 20 to 40 percent of my stuff is warez? Is that OK? (kidding...)
(I really do love the percentage thing, it has a amazing life around here, and I mean absolutely no disrespect to whoever birthed it, ...consarn it, I wish I had thought of it!)
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HammerHead
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 13:09:24
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pirates and proud right ?
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tonester
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 13:09:44
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dont get in such a tizzy clompers.
does it have to have a point ? not getting in a tizzy at all (clompers?) I'm just curious as to what leads you to believe that this crowd uses pirated software. Is it that many posts that start off with "why can't i get sonar to record"? or "no audio from my midi tracks"? and no, there doesn't have to be a point at all. i guess we'd all rather that Sonar authorization be via a dongle, right? nice avatar, BTW! peace, Tony www.myspace.com/livesayrox
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 13:31:25
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Before I started getting heavily involved in church, I used a couple of pirated software programs before. What really showed me how wrong intellectual theft is, I had an incident where our church several years ago was recording it's first cd; the issue came up of how to protect the cd from being copied illegally- because I had some experience in the industry in the past, the choir director looked to me to for some advice. Then I remembered getting the thought of how upset I would be if someone copied the cd instead of purchasing it, basically stealing from the church. Then I got the thought that that is what I did evertime I bought a bootleg video, cd, software, etc. I felt like crap-have not bought anything bootleg since then. I think that it is harder for (descent people with morales, not just criminals who don't give a crap anyway) some people to see the morale wrong in intellectual theft, or they hide behind the fact that the software provider/company has deep pockets and there is a belief that the company/artist/creator can afford the loss. Theft is theft, regardless though! And stealing is really all that it is-point blank!
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 13:39:11
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never. two reasons: 1) i would be afraid to put cracked software on my DAW. 2) i helped my friend build a pretty good recording system with nothing but bundled or free software. Sonar LE which came with his edirol interface, kjaerhus' classic line of plugs, a few GREAT freeware VST synths and plugins. man you can set up a functional system for next to nothing if money really is a concern. a friend of mine asked if i could come over and help mix stuff on his Cubase system. i said sure... well it turns out he's got a cracked Cubase and the full line of Waves stuff ( all warez i assumed ). the whole time i was there i was thinking, man, if i just had my Trackplug and Sonitus stuff with me i could finish this 10x faster. told him to buy Sonar 5 ( at the time the newest version ) and he wouldn't even need all that other junk for what he was doing. i think he's considered it well due to the number of times his Cubase locked up on us.
post edited by Clydewinder - 2006/11/06 13:56:12
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Ognis
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 13:50:07
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This thread is against Cakewalk Forums Terms of Service Agreement.
Piracy and Warez
Cakewalk has a very strict policy against piracy and the illegal use of copyrighted material. Linking or giving information about any site that distributes illegal software, seeking help in circumventing copyright laws, possessing or distributing illegal copyrighted material, or encouraging software or media piracy are all grounds for account termination. This goes for all copyrighted material, including but not limited to software, music, videos and games.
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kilgoretrout 
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RE: are you a software thief ?
2006/11/06 13:50:25
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I haven't even ever downloaded a song illegally. I have used MusicMatch since it first came out and have happily paid for everything.
I used to be an electronics engineer. I understand the value of intellectual property rights.
To me, downloading a song or software EVEN FROM SOMETHING LIKE NAPSTER IS (Used to be?) is absolutely the same as walking into Best Buy and shoving things into your pocket.
Answer - never have... never will.
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