Jimbo 88
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 09:36:05
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One thing to keep in mind, and correct me if I am wrong...in the past when a new version was coming out or new updates where highly anticipated the Bakers would go silent and the forums would flood with, "whats going on? Where are the Bakers?" What is happening now is very typical of how Cake has operated in the past. These periods would be painfully long, but eventually the big event would get here.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 10:44:40
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Jimbo 88 One thing to keep in mind, and correct me if I am wrong...in the past when a new version was coming out or new updates where highly anticipated the Bakers would go silent and the forums would flood with, "whats going on? Where are the Bakers?" What is happening now is very typical of how Cake has operated in the past. These periods would be painfully long, but eventually the big event would get here.
Good point.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 11:02:40
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There is an aspect of "scope creep" that exists in all large projects. The quality, schedule, and budget are all in play. As they say, you can have good, fast, or cheap. Pick any two of these. But not all three. If the detailed, realistic product requirements were not fully established with project sponsors when the plans were first announced, then changes to design scope would need to be made later during actual development as new product requirements are discovered along the way. I would think that this community would be more forgiving on slow delivery, if an update on progress were issued. But anything the Bakers say at this point could be interpreted as another promise. So they may be hesitant to make an announcement until they are certain of the outcome. Perhaps they are very close. I don't own a Mac, or plan to. My hope has been that with a cross-platform DAW, the future of Cakewalk could be assured, as well as move it out of the "other" DAW category
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 11:11:20
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jb101
Jimbo 88 One thing to keep in mind, and correct me if I am wrong...in the past when a new version was coming out or new updates where highly anticipated the Bakers would go silent and the forums would flood with, "whats going on? Where are the Bakers?" What is happening now is very typical of how Cake has operated in the past. These periods would be painfully long, but eventually the big event would get here.
Good point.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 11:12:34
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abacab As they say, you can have good, fast, or cheap. Pick any two of these. But not all three.
i use that phrase at work about once a month! if an update on progress were issued i think that's all anyone is asking for?
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 11:18:21
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pwalpwali use that phrase at work about once a month!  +1, LOL!!! pwalpwal i think that's all anyone is asking for? Right!
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 11:42:30
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I believe I may be able to give a unbiased opinion. not always easy for me because I am happy with Cakewalk/Sonar. So I tend to take sides with them. not afraid to admit that. No doubt This rubs people the wrong way, Cakewalk said in the Fall and we are still waiting. I've even heard "Cakewalk simply gauging how many might be interested, not beginning production which does seem odd because the announcement says "The fall". Another part of me doesn't really care too much. Sure im waiting to load the MAC version up. I got ready for it a few months ago in advance. But im not losing sleep over it. I have so much work to do in Sonar Platinum PC version that it really doesn't matter enough to me. When it gets here it gets here. Im sure there are those who are running MAC that have been waiting on this because it is essential to them but keep in mind, I though (and I could be wrong) this MAC version was supposed to be like a " free trial beta version". So those who are waiting (like myself) im going to be using it to play with, not complete real work on it. So if this is the case, are we really going to get our panty's in a bunch over something that we are just playing with ? I hope not. This has been a good thread (minus a comment or two that got personal about cakewalk) but remember its a free bee, correct ? I'm giving them more time to complete it in hopes it will work 90% no bugs. Trust me I have my issues with Cakewalk, not the time or the place (on this thread) to air them out. I tend to keep that too myself (or fill my wife's ear full of my troubles  ) but for those waiting, my best to you and hope we get this soon.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 13:32:46
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Yes , I too would like to see a Mac version of SONAR . Sound Vulcan Logic dictates that my best choice is to make a decision to choose not to hold Cakewalk responsible for meeting my expectations regarding the timeline of when a Mac version of SONAR is gonna happen . When my Logic is in doubt , I always try to remember what my mamma told me when I was just a little Vulcan in the crib Kenny
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 14:38:13
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Hey Kenny, seems to be a new medium you created: A photo theatre. I´m very impressed .
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 15:00:49
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LJB It does make for fairly bad PR - I told several of my clients to expect a Mac version of some kind soon, which is what was advertised when the lifetime membership was promoted.
So you told users of a Mac version when all CW said was they would have an Alpha version? Were you expecting clients to use an Alpha version?
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 15:55:17
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I also told my friend, I didn't mean to convert them but I did mention it'd be coming and he seemed excited to try it out (I honestly don't know why, no offense to the bakers). I'm sure LJB wasn't taking preorders either. Can we all just take a step back and admit that - 1. No, it isn't the end of the world that it isn't here yet, and 2. Yes, it's quite lame that they said "this fall", it's now January and there has been no word on it at all.
The first sticky on the first page of this subforum still has "Sonar4Mac" in the title by the way.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 16:12:19
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☄ Helpfulby Vastman 2017/01/10 00:42:18
One thing that usually gets bandied about with updates about product launches is the need to retain competitive surprise. But in this case there's no secret to hide. They're working on a mac version, it's going to be an alpha. I don't see the downside to giving a little shoutout as to how it's going. They don't have to get into what parts are proving difficult, or the programmatic strategies to overcome the problems. They can just say something like "we know it's running late, but here's a video showing SONAR on a mac using VST plugins. Yay!" or some such. I hope it's gong well and an alpha is imminent. I'd absolutely love to have a Mac version of SONAR so I can do more mobile work without having to buy another rig.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 16:27:24
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/01/09 17:13:05
It may be as simple as they got the alpha to display "Hello World" on the screen.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 17:13:20
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mettelus It may be as simple as they got the alpha to display "Hello World" on the screen.
So it's almost done then. Well played.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 17:41:21
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I am dying for the MAC version... Due to the downsizing of the music industry I've had to start recording Voice Overs at Video Houses for extra income. I'd give anything to be able to use Sonar instead of "SlowTools".
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 18:26:05
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Designing, creating and testing software, like any other job, can sometimes take longer, even much longer, than expected.
I don't have an inside line to Cakewalk of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Sonar4Mac project is taking quite a bit longer than originally expected.
Cakewalk's main product is Sonar for Windows, and it seems Windows updates frequently cause problems. Which means Cakewalk has to develop, test and release patches as quickly as possible and presumably have little or no more warning that a Windows update is going to break something than we do. And the sort of problems that are turning up aren't the kind of thing that could wait a few months before a fix was issued as was often the case on the "old" patch/update system. Which means the developer's plans might get unpredictably overturned at a moment's notice.
That may or may not account for some or all of the delay.
Secondly, there are "alphas" and "alphas". A Mac Sonar that was released as a barely functioning, very buggy and limited version, which much alpha software is, might be a disaster for Cakewalk in the Mac market. If it's free lots of people may download it who are unfamiliar with Sonar and regard a pretty basic early alpha as so bad or under specified they decide Sonar's useless and rubbish then rush off to forums to tell the world all about how bad it is.
I'm guessing that the idea of a free alpha release is in part to draw attention to Sonar and in part to get it installed on as many Macs as possible so any bugs are spotted as rapidly as possible. So Sonar has to work reasonably well on Macs from the day of release while bugs will need fixing quickly if product momentum is going to be maintained.
And the Mac market is awash with DAWs from Apples free Garageband and pretty cheap Logic Pro, which is a powerful, respectable and capable DAW that has a large number of users. Then there's all the other DAWs, all of which except Sonar have been Mac compatible for a while and in some cases for many years. So Cakewalk have to get it right technically and proce Sonar correctly if they want to make headway.
Mac Sonar will happen or it won't. If it doesn't I expect there'll be good reasons why even if they're not shared publicly.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 18:34:30
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tlw I'm guessing that the idea of a free alpha release is in part to draw attention to Sonar and in part to get it installed on as many Macs as possible so any bugs are spotted as rapidly as possible. So Sonar has to work reasonably well on Macs from the day of release while bugs will need fixing quickly if product momentum is going to be maintained.
I thought it was free with lifetime updates but not for the general public.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 18:35:24
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Jimbo 88 I am dying for the MAC version... Due to the downsizing of the music industry I've had to start recording Voice Overs at Video Houses for extra income. I'd give anything to be able to use Sonar instead of "SlowTools".
Why can't you record voice overs in SONAR (on a PC laptop)?
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 18:43:17
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Here's a thought, maybe CW decided that talking about an Alpha Mac product on the main pages was too premature. As somewhat illustrated example; an auto manufacturer does not talk about their 2018 models on their Jan 2017 website. You may now all start with the nitpicking of my analogy. 
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 18:44:06
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bapu
Jimbo 88 I am dying for the MAC version... Due to the downsizing of the music industry I've had to start recording Voice Overs at Video Houses for extra income. I'd give anything to be able to use Sonar instead of "SlowTools".
Why can't you record voice overs in SONAR (on a PC laptop)?
Buit that´s easy : 1.think of the price of a mac you record with, 2. you probaly will cry high That´s the best precondition to get a nice high cry voice for a voice-over. The quality of a mac high cry you cannot get with a win based pc.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 18:47:22
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bapu
Jimbo 88 I am dying for the MAC version... Due to the downsizing of the music industry I've had to start recording Voice Overs at Video Houses for extra income. I'd give anything to be able to use Sonar instead of "SlowTools".
Why can't you record voice overs in SONAR (on a PC laptop)?
Recording a VO on a laptop in Sonar is not a problem. Mixing and syncing to picture on my laptop is. I've gotten use to using a lot of Plugins that are hogs that kill my laptop. I'm not about to spend another $2500 so I work more as a mixer....if it was music I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/10 16:44:11
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This looks like a perfect SNEAK PEEK for NAMM? Does CW have a booth?
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/10 17:13:16
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jimkleban This looks like a perfect SNEAK PEEK for NAMM? Does CW have a booth?
They may, but as I recall last year it was bandied about on this forum that software at NAMM is not as big a draw/sensation as it was in the early days (of DAWs, VSTs etc).
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/10 17:14:56
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I was at NAMM last year and Cake was "stationed" in the Gibson room as were all the other Gibson brands. Not very noticeable to the passerby individuals.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/10 17:53:01
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Image Line has started working on a Mac version long before Cakewalk and it's not finished. I would imagine it probably takes some time since they've been Windows only.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/11 03:47:45
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It certainly is nice to know that Mr. Anderton is working for Cakewalk during his spare time of evenings and weekends. Maybe someone from Cakewalk that devotes most of their working time developing Sonar could help inform us. After all, if I devote most of my time to making music, do I want to play with someone who devotes 10-15% of their time?
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/19 07:10:48
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BASSIC Productions It certainly is nice to know that Mr. Anderton is working for Cakewalk during his spare time of evenings and weekends. Maybe someone from Cakewalk that devotes most of their working time developing Sonar could help inform us. After all, if I devote most of my time to making music, do I want to play with someone who devotes 10-15% of their time?
Craig's turned into the corporate man from the cool dude he used to be back in the day with all the neat electronic projects in the magazines; he doesn't much care about the common man/end user anymore.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/19 07:19:57
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2017/01/19 08:40:27
jackn2mpu Craig's turned into the corporate man from the cool dude he used to be back in the day with all the neat electronic projects in the magazines; he doesn't much care about the common man/end user anymore.
That is, quite frankly, an idiotic statement and a clear indication that you aren't a frequent visitor to this forum.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/19 08:24:00
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/01/19 08:57:24
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BASSIC Productions It certainly is nice to know that Mr. Anderton is working for Cakewalk during his spare time of evenings and weekends. Maybe someone from Cakewalk that devotes most of their working time developing Sonar could help inform us. After all, if I devote most of my time to making music, do I want to play with someone who devotes 10-15% of their time?
Craig's turned into the corporate man from the cool dude he used to be back in the day with all the neat electronic projects in the magazines; he doesn't much care about the common man/end user anymore.
Nothing could be further from the truth!!
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/19 09:33:28
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BASSIC Productions It certainly is nice to know that Mr. Anderton is working for Cakewalk during his spare time of evenings and weekends. Maybe someone from Cakewalk that devotes most of their working time developing Sonar could help inform us. After all, if I devote most of my time to making music, do I want to play with someone who devotes 10-15% of their time?
Craig's turned into the corporate man from the cool dude he used to be back in the day with all the neat electronic projects in the magazines; he doesn't much care about the common man/end user anymore.
This is pure nonsense. You clearly have not been at this forum for last four years.
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