pwalpwal
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hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
the mac version has disappeared from the website - please update us with mac version status, thanks!
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 10:32:51
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same question here, thanks in advance :)
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 11:40:21
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☄ Helpfulby SilverBlueMedallion 2017/01/08 14:29:46
maybe craig could ask when he's next passing by as a user? or maybe the product manager lance could chime in, let us all now what he's planning for his product? or even noel, if he's browsing...
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 11:55:55
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 12:48:37
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☄ Helpfulby Ionian 2017/01/10 18:34:37
Might also ask what happened to ripple editing. I think they need to get some really good stuff done before moving into the Mac country to be accepted hopefully wholesomely by that crowd.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 13:08:37
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I think that it would be nice for Cakewalk to provide some kind of progress update information. Many users would appreciate hearing something.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 14:21:46
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pwalpwal
the mac version has disappeared from the website - please update us with mac version status, thanks!
Count me in on this as well. Seeing as how MOTU hasn't bothered to fix the problems with their latest version of Digital Performer and Avid is scewing people over with PT I'd really like to have Sonar on the Mac. S8P was solid and the only reason I left Sonar was I needed a new music computer at the tme and was sick of Windoze.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 16:30:50
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I know. I've tried being patient as they continue to talk about the programming challenges and wanting to make sure it's as good as they can get it before going to Alpha, but it would be nice to have a general idea of rough timeline. A Mac version makes me much more mobile with my favorite DAW and thus means I can commit to projects whilst on the road!
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 17:47:11
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@SimpleManZ "they need to get some really good stuff done before moving into the Mac country to be accepted" - that's one of very few totally acceptable excuses, but doesn't justify lack of any information provided
@jackn2mpu - I can honestly recommend Reaper, it's multiplatform, very lightweight, reliable, extremely customizable DAW to give a try, practically all our broadcast vehicles moved onto Reaper (other audio software we use is Magix Samplitude Pro X series, various ProTools on Macs, SoundForge, and also little Adobe Audition on Macs)
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 18:34:27
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That will be a tough crowd for sure! When you can already get Logic Pro for $199.99, or Reaper for $60 on Mac, or even GarageBand ...
Cake will probably have to give Sonar for Mac away just to get market share. Probably not a money maker at the get go, considering the development costs. And it will need to be rock solid from day 1, or let the beatdowns commence...
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 18:49:52
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Alpha means NOT rock solid. Alpha means some things mostly work.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 19:49:44
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In the real world, the court of public opinion will make a very brutal assessment of even an Alpha version. They only have one shot at this launch. Better make the best of it.
I personally think it's suicide to release an Alpha in public beyond a closed door, no disclosure agreement, test group.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 20:10:31
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abacab
In the real world, the court of public opinion will make a very brutal assessment of even an Alpha version. They only have one shot at this launch. Better make the best of it.
I personally think it's suicide to release an Alpha in public beyond a closed door, no disclosure agreement, test group.
I agree 100%. I for one do not follow Cake logic in this situation. If they have actually yanked Alpha OS completely, there may be less flack than with a release of a half-baked version. There is always the possibilty that announcement of Alpha OS was simply to increase lifetime update purchases due to Gibson cash flow issues at that time. In the absense of any real information, one can only speculate. If Cake wants to dispel such speculation, then simply state what is going on.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 20:44:19
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microapp
There is always the possibilty that announcement of Alpha OS was simply to increase lifetime update purchases due to Gibson cash flow issues at that time.
Just FYI - Cakewalk is its own division and profit center. It's not expected to make Gibson profitable, but to make Cakewalk profitable. Of course in turn that will make Gibson Brands more profitable as well, but Cakewalk's first responsibility is to itself. I actually don't know what's going on with the Mac version. With new people there, Cakewalk now occupies about 10-15% of my "Gibson Brands time," and there are a lot of other demands on that time right now. Most of what I do for Cakewalk is evenings and weekends. That's why it's "Friday's Tip of the Week," not "Tuesday's Tip of the Week." 
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 20:50:06
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microapp
abacab
In the real world, the court of public opinion will make a very brutal assessment of even an Alpha version. They only have one shot at this launch. Better make the best of it.
I personally think it's suicide to release an Alpha in public beyond a closed door, no disclosure agreement, test group.
I agree 100%.
I for one do not follow Cake logic in this situation.
If they have actually yanked Alpha OS completely, there may be less flack than with a release of a half-baked version.
There is always the possibilty that announcement of Alpha OS was simply to increase lifetime update purchases due to Gibson cash flow issues at that time.
In the absense of any real information, one can only speculate.
If Cake wants to dispel such speculation, then simply state what is going on.
I think that you speculations are nothing, based on no facts. .
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/08 20:53:41
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And I think you missed the point.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 02:54:42
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 04:01:22
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 04:07:04
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joakes
tzzsmk
well, problem is Cakewalk has lied, which makes really negative impact on potential future customers....
https://www.cakewalk.com/...nt-to-High-Performance
Sorry, don't follow your reasoning on this.
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@tssmk Also don´t see any relevant point in your statement.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 04:19:29
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Pragi
joakes
tzzsmk
well, problem is Cakewalk has lied, which makes really negative impact on potential future customers....
https://www.cakewalk.com/...nt-to-High-Performance
Sorry, don't follow your reasoning on this.
KR
Jerry
@tssmk
Also don´t see any relevant point in your statement.
I don't see the issue, either. I would like to see the mac version, too. One of my students in dying for it to come out. So it's a little late, what IS the problem?
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 04:51:10
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This Fall, a free Alpha version of SONAR OS X ... will become available to gauge the interest of doing a full Mac port.
I thought Cakewalk is serious enough not to throw lies, it's really sick if they just said that to catch more customers to buy Sonar lifetime upgrades,
if they didn't tell any date, I would totally understand that; as I'm aware of how complex it is to code software, even more complex to port software onto another platform,
@jb101 "So it's a little late, what IS the problem?" - problem is Cakewalk remains silent for half year, after all the hype, they did 180° turn, and I wouldn't be surprised if they denied any Mac OSX development later
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 05:48:18
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It does make for fairly bad PR - I told several of my clients to expect a Mac version of some kind soon, which is what was advertised when the lifetime membership was promoted. I also noticed the Lifetime Membership offer has fallen away. Maybe the entire business model/strategy is being addressed again?..
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Pragi
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 05:49:01
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tzzsmk
well, problem is Cakewalk has lied, which makes really negative impact on potential future customers....
https://www.cakewalk.com/...nt-to-High-Performance
@Tzzmk It´s simply not true that cakewalk was lying about the points you are refering to. And yes, Cakewalk announced a mac alpha version for this fall and they are a bit late on the bus. The bakers in dec 2016 also wrote several times in different threads in this forum about new features and other big news which are in development and will in some weeks be released. Why not giving the bakers the time to develope a good alpha release, specially if you want Sonar 4 Mac (like everybody else) to be as fully fledged as possible ? Why so extrem diffident ? Have a nice day.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 05:59:19
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Lie is probably too strong a word, or maybe this is the language barrier at work. However they did promise a version this fall and it didn't come, at the very least that's a broken promise and deserves a little more criticism than "perhaps they're a bit late", especially since the original announcement came at the same time the lifetime updates arrived and I get the feeling some people were pulled across the line with that in mind.
At the very least, some kind of update would be classy.
That said, purely for me personally, I hope they drop it altogether.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 06:01:51
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LJB
It does make for fairly bad PR - I told several of my clients to expect a Mac version of some kind soon, which is what was advertised when the lifetime membership was promoted. I also noticed the Lifetime Membership offer has fallen away. Maybe the entire business model/strategy is being addressed again?..
Good point,Ludwig, for me the extension of the lifetime update offer was also a desaster. Thre have really been some user who got the lifetime update offer before september16 under the impression that this offer will surely not be extended . The PR-department of CW seems to not look ahead tooooo much . regards
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 06:13:23
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tzzsmk
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This Fall, a free Alpha version of SONAR OS X ... will become available to gauge the interest of doing a full Mac port.
I thought Cakewalk is serious enough not to throw lies, it's really sick if they just said that to catch more customers to buy Sonar lifetime upgrades,
if they didn't tell any date, I would totally understand that; as I'm aware of how complex it is to code software, even more complex to port software onto another platform,
@jb101 "So it's a little late, what IS the problem?" - problem is Cakewalk remains silent for half year, after all the hype, they did 180° turn, and I wouldn't be surprised if they denied any Mac OSX development later
How did they do a 180 degree turn? What nonsense, or, at the very least, hyperbole and drama queen behaviour. Perhaps an update on the release would have been a good idea. They obviously think not. They know better about what is happening than I do. But "lie", " 180 degree turn", "deny any Osx development" is poppycock.
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 06:54:09
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joakes
tzzsmk
well, problem is Cakewalk has lied, which makes really negative impact on potential future customers....
https://www.cakewalk.com/...nt-to-High-Performance
Sorry, don't follow your reasoning on this.
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Jerry
There is no 'reason" in his reasoning;
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 08:20:29
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quote: But "lie", "180 degree turn", "deny any Osx development" is poppycock.
English isn't my native language, so I genuinely do apologize if those words are perceived as more offensive or even have slightly different meaning than equivalent in Czech,
I'm not trying to bash Cakewalk, or spread hatred/drama, or desperately want to try Sonar4Mac,
I'm just trying to point out that Cakewalk should have settled things more smart regarding potential Mac version,
I've been using Sonar since version 8 or so, personally I do think it is best daw for Windows platform, so it makes me really sad to see when Cakewalk is clearly tottering around recently (everything started with introduction of Command Center and unreliable online license verification which brought some negative reputation points indeed)
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 08:36:54
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I understand cultural differences and translation can cause misunderstanding, so I apologise too if I came on too strong.
Your English is so good that it doesn't come across as someone talking in a second language. Again, I am sorry.
I just think we need to cut Cakewalk a little slack. They have always been honest and gained my trust.
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pwalpwal
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Re: hey cakewalk what happened to the mac version?
2017/01/09 08:59:14
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i think cakewalk should let us know what's happening, something, anything, the silence is deafening
(fwiw, the current situation is reminding me of when project5 was dropped...)
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