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  • Entering Lyrics causes unwanted notes to appear
2014/01/31 18:43:49
tbaroni
Has anyone else experienced this problem?  You create a project, then start entering lyrics via the Lyrics View.  At some point, usually well into the song, additional lyrics cause unwanted notes to begin to appear throughout your project.
 
I'd love to know if anyone has discovered how to avoid this, it is utterly frustrating, particularly because undo will not undo the damage!
 
Also frustrating is that after reporting this problem and spending well over an hour on the phone with Cakewalk support, sending files so they could reproduce the problem (which they did), nothing has happened since! 
 
..    Tony
..    HP Pavilion P6000, Windows 7 - 64bit, Sonar X2 Studio (build 306) x64, Tascam US-144 mkII, Yamaha Clavinova CVP-103
2014/01/31 19:12:22
Splat
That's weird, on the plus side you may have hit a brilliant alternative method of song writing.
Sounds like a bug to me. If you are interested you could try the X3 demo to see if this is fixed, but make sure you backup your system first.
2014/01/31 21:24:07
heydan
tbaroni
Has anyone else experienced this problem?  You create a project, then start entering lyrics via the Lyrics View.  At some point, usually well into the song, additional lyrics cause unwanted notes to begin to appear throughout your project.
 
I'd love to know if anyone has discovered how to avoid this, it is utterly frustrating, particularly because undo will not undo the damage!
 

Hey tbaroni,
Yes, I've had this long running problem also, as well as vice versa (multiple duplicate word or phrase lyric entries showing up in lyrics view when editing notes in staff view). Yeah, it can be aggravating to try to work with. Sorry, no amount of tinkering with settings has helped me either, so yes, with the history of the staff view around here, it looks like it's shaping up to be a bug.  I've not filed a problem report on it.  As CakeAlexS suggests, may-may-maybe we've stu-stumbled onto the Ma-Ma-Max Head-Head-Head-Headroom method of songwriting. 
Best,
HeyDan 
2014/02/01 05:05:40
Splat
So we have confirmation that this issue persists with X1D, X2 (A?), and I guess we would be waiting for X3D user now to see if this still is an issue. Thanks for supply details about your systems so this issue can be cleanly traced. I'm not a notation/lyrics sort of guy so probably best wait for somebody who is.
2014/02/01 05:14:03
Kalle Rantaaho
I find it very surprising that a really disturbing bug like this hasn't been handled on the forum before? At least, I don't remember ever reading about it. What is still hiding in the depths waiting to be found....
2014/02/01 05:18:44
Splat
Right now I don't find it surprising because we haven't had confirmation from an X3D user so we have to assume right now (although I do appreciate it's frustrating) these are old issues with old products. Also bugs that don't get talked about often don't get fixed as nobody knows about them (not even Cake), or is viewed as low priority as nobody is screaming from the rooftops. So we await X3D confirmation.
 
There was some staff view fixes in X3C for instance.
 
> What is still hiding in the depths waiting to be found....
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Outstanding-Issues-as-of-X3D-and-general-comments-m2952585.aspx#2952585
 
2014/02/01 14:52:34
konradh
I am curious now what the variables are since I have never had this issue.  That said, I normally enter the melody first, so maybe that is the difference.
 
We don't talk much about lyrics view here but it is an awesome way to prompt a singer in the studio.
2014/03/12 07:50:46
TheMusicMan
I am an X3d Studio user, and can confirm that this bug is present. It has cost me hours of extra work trying to clean up the tracks.
 
Anyone know how to get this bug addressed by cakewalk?
 
Thanks
2014/03/12 10:48:00
Splat
I suggest get the bug confirmed in X3E (which is days away), and if it still exists give us exact steps to repro from a brand new X3E project so it is totally crystal clear leaving nothing to speculation, e.g. like this:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Reenabling-Auto-Track-Zoom-disables-auto-lane-expansion-and-tracks-jump-Confirmed-by-CW-m3005429.aspx
 
If we can all reproduce your issue then you are on your way. So far nobody really has shown us what the exact issue is just the symptoms and a brief summary.
 
Thanks
 
Alex
2014/03/13 18:52:04
MorganT
Another X3d user who has seen this issue.  (Actually, I was entering lyrics in the lyrics portion of the staff view, which added extra notes - but it sounds like the same issue.)
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