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vs100 does have windows 8 and windows 7 drivers.

http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=VS-100

I last checked a while back. They must have released those after thanksgiving. Well at least I did not see them when I checked. This further proves my point. Hardware vendors are working on driver versions for windows 8 as we speak. I don't think it will be long before Windows 8 drivers will be released for the Boss BR-800. I am still waiting for drivers for my Edirol PCR 800. Rolands web site says that the editor for PCR 800 windows 8 version is under testing. I think in time the drivers will be released.

Thanks for the heads up about the Windows 8 drivers

There seems to be a misunderstanding that is really only a technical one. X2 can run on XP and there are reports that it does. The problem is that for X2a to have Windows 8 touch it needs a special library that wont install on XP. It will install with Vista and Windows 7. On XP the a patch wont install at all. If the a patch would not install that library than it is most likely that X2a would run on XP. 

I think its a case of getting something by loosing something. We loose XP support but gain touch support. None of the other DAWs have the degree of touch support that Sonar X2a has.

If you view it in that context I think its very understandable and acceptable. 

but the x2a update isn't *SOLELY* for fixing the touch side.. and it stated on intial release they weren't supporting xp or vista..

they never originally stated x2 would work in xp anyway.. so it could actually have been worse.

I got done over like a kipper with my dsp factory when cubase decided to discontinue support for it *AFTER* the update. with err v4 IRC

I've had to buy new stuff because of legacy times that hardware makers have on drivers etc.. more here have no doubt.. if the sound card is stopping you then get another.. YES it was worth xyz amount when you bought it, but not now and you'll find a cheaper equivelent that probably does the same... either that or stay with the exsisting hardware..


you knew x2 wasn't fit for xp also.. so that either upgrade your OS (cheap at the moment) and get a decent soundcard.. or use an older version of sonar

what interfaces are they (since you don't state which)  ? if they are 10+ years old then you might find the legacy period is up for them driver wise. 

look how long ago windows xp has been off sale .. vista, 7 and now 8... so I don't think it was exactly quick they stopped supporting it

I feel it's kinda a "taken" that if you do stuff demanding on a pc , whether it be music / video / gaming.. if you want to constantly keep up software wise you have to also hardware wise.. e.g. x-amount of games I'd like to play need a far better gfx / GPU chipset than I had.

I liked XP,I thought it was the first decent OS from Microsoft. As much as that is true though, Windows 7 is even better so it's not like you're being forced onto a lemon - upgrade and enjoy.

Blimey. I wish people would read posts properly! I didn't say I was running XP with 8gb or ram - I said my photo and video editing machine has 8GB of ram running windows 8! My XP machine has 4gb of ram and is a core2 duo. I wonder if Sonar X2a is looking for files that can be added to XP to make it run?

If you want to read more on the tech side Noel provided some info here http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2674097

Prior to that posting Noel made his take on XP pretty clear http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2667835

 
  
Well, just my opinion as an XP user that has a pretty stable X2 with hot fix installed.

 Not bitter about the situation here, I have all the PC plugs, nothing more to buy now. I don't have a touch screen nor am I planning on getting one.

 Seems to me the main reason for the X2a patch is that new TS tech that is included in Win 8.
 For this CW has decided to officially end support for XP.

 Premature?  From my viewpoint it is. This was decided before Win 8 was even launched. There really didn't seem to be much public outcry for touch screen support.  I think it's a pretty big gamble to embrace this half baked idea of Microsoft and if things don't pan out the way MS has projected. They will drop support for it just like the mulitude of game controllers for PC that they discarded for Xbox. That is what I think you will see happen.

 I have no immediate plans on upgrading.  For the few VSTi's and a few audio tracks that my projects need, legacy support is much more valuable to me than 64 bit. 

 Sorry guys, it's not time to upgrade here when MS marketing dept. decides it is.  I'll upgrade when I'm ready and have a need to.

 With that said X2 runs as well as any other version of Sonar here, if the OP is having issues I doubt the a patch would fix it.

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you knew x2 wasn't fit for xp also.. so that either upgrade your OS (cheap at the moment) and get a decent soundcard.. or use an older version of sonar

Option #3: use DAW software that is supported on XP. Probably the cheapest route. Or, if you're going the route of new hardware, do what I did... get a good deal on a late 2011 MacBook Pro... keep your options open for when MS makes some totally bizarre decision to do something wacky with their OS. :)

look how long ago windows xp has been off sale .. vista, 7 and now 8... so I don't think it was exactly quick they stopped supporting it

" Support for Windows XP is ending on April 8, 2014. If you're running this version after support ends, you won't get security updates for Windows." 

http://windows.microsoft....ndows/end-support-help

Shame CW is throwing the baby out with the bath water, for the sake of what.. maybe 5-10% of users ever using the unique facilities of Win8? Fewer OSes = cheaper dev cycles and all that... but let's not pretend that the inertia that the broad market has shown wrt. moving from XP doesn't exist... still. If MS -- of all vendors -- officially supports XP, so too should ISVs that want to play the MS game.

I'm also wondering if Sonar will support my Windows for workgroups machine. I have optimised HIMEM.SYS and Quemm is installed so I can access at least 600k base memory.

Even though I'm still running Sonar on XP it's very fair for Cakewalk to stop supporting XP.  Supporting old OSs gets expensive. 

Meanwhile, my company recently upgraded us all from XP Pro to Windows 7 64bit and I'm loving it.  (Just need to buy my own SSD and I'll be set.)

Upgrading my DAW, since it isn't dedicated, would be a pain.  So maybe this is an excuse to build a new machine.... hmmmmm.  

Or maybe just wait for the hosted Sonar Cloud (would THAT be something).