calaverasgrandes
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/16 17:45:00
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A)I would prefer a flatter (less 3d) interface. Cleaner, simpler. Less colors. Easier to see. B)make it easier to switch audio interfaces/modes. When I go from my onboard sound, to my portable interface, to my MOTU Each time I have to restart several times. Please! Driver profiles should make this a one step process. I work in IT and desktops are really going the way of the dinosaur. Trust me. I see whole companies with no desktops. I know dozens of people with only a laptop. Working with multiple audio interfaces on the same project is not an exceptional situation. C)quit adding every damn feature under the sun and make it more stable. you guys are already ahead of most other DAWS. I know guys that record in other DAWS like Logic and PT then mix in Sonar. But I hate how Sonar crashes. Can't you make it crash in a way that it TOTALLY crashes instead of leaving a broken process? As it stands the times it does crash I have to restart entirely. Which involves muting the monitors and such. Annoying. D) if you have to add any new plugs make it a tape sim or warmer. I have enough synths. E) make the midi ports sticky. It is so agravating that moving a project from system to system can dislodge a drum map. E2)how about just a button for "drum track"? Why do I have to jump thru hoops to get my drum tracks to show up as drum tracks. Assign to midi ch10, open drum map manager etc. I am used to it now, I have templates and stuff. But for newbies I can imagine it is quite opaque. F) puppies and kittens G)C'mon fix the wave redraw. I have a pretty fast system, with multiple hard drives all over the Everything is on its own drive. It still takes forever to redraw waves. And every once in while it gets all corrupted. H)I use the clip colors to organize clips when I am comping vocals or guitars. Right now it takes waytoo many clicks to get in and out of that dialogue, and it doesnt even follow in a logical way so you can click properties>color> then hit ok - ok by hitting enter twice! How about a little drop down or palette so we can just choose color on the fly. I mean REALLY. How do you guys organize your clips when you have 14 tracks of guitar, all colored green?
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/16 19:20:56
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It would be nice if Sonar could automatically set the output channels of multi-channel VSTi such as BFD, Battery, Etc. to the way they are meant to show up. Example: Both of those VST instruments have a mix of stereo and mono channels by default. When I want to open one of them, Sonar gives the option of either all stereo or all mono outputs, unless I'm missing something?
Also, to solo one of the audio output channels of one of these VSTi's when using a drum map, I have hit the solo button on the audio channel, then hit the solo button on the MIDI track that is driving the VSTi. It would be nice if Sonar had the logic to automatically solo the associated MIDI track when I want to solo the "snare" or "Kick" or whatever.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/16 22:20:36
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Ability to automate mute & solo buttons on busses/groups!?!?!?! How can you miss this one?!?!
and track FX send on/off as well.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/16 22:26:54
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I wish for arranger facilities like Cubase has, or P5 too. Some way to create sections of songs, organize them and then string them together later. my number one request!
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SongCraft
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/16 22:39:40
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I wish for arranger facilities like Cubase has, or P5 too. Some way to create sections of songs, organize them and then string them together later.
my number one request!
+1000. I sent a Feature Request several months ago for a Groove Matrix Plugin (the guts of P5 including Arranger)
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Notecrusher
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/17 04:04:28
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I wish for arranger facilities like Cubase has, or P5 too. Some way to create sections of songs, organize them and then string them together later.
my number one request!
+1000.
I sent a Feature Request several months ago for a Groove Matrix Plugin (the guts of P5 including Arranger)
COOL, tho i think it makes more sense as a view than a plugin.
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DarinBad
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/17 05:55:43
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SongCraft
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/17 08:51:04
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ORIGINAL: Notecrusher
ORIGINAL: SongCraft
ORIGINAL: Notecrusher
ORIGINAL: dewdman42
I wish for arranger facilities like Cubase has, or P5 too. Some way to create sections of songs, organize them and then string them together later.
my number one request!
+1000.
I sent a Feature Request several months ago for a Groove Matrix Plugin (the guts of P5 including Arranger)
COOL, tho i think it makes more sense as a view than a plugin.
Sonar's platform is completely different to P5, and not all projects and studio users require the use of pattern/loops. Having the option to have P5 as a Plugin would be very cool for many reasons.... > For anyone on a limited budget, The Groove Matrix (P5 Plugin) and Sonar HSXL would be a ideal. > Patterns can be re-used in other songs as a starter --- example: instantly load a drum Pattern (P5 Matrix) as backing/inspiration for a new song. (This would be much nicer than having a Metronome continuously clicking) --- And it's a quick way of building up a user Pattern Library for future projects.... > Integrate cool features into the Matrix, ability to load anything such as samples, other sound sources, FX, levels, pan, automation all saved with the Pattern for later reloading. > Unlimited Tracks per Pattern and Unlimited Arrange. > Include Flexible Groove Quantize Tools within the Groove Matrix AND smart lock to time/tempo for the current project without hitting the Pause button....Great for LIVE use. (Sorry Ableton) > No Dongle required  > The Groove Matrix (P5 Plugin) would be a valuable asset allowing CW developers to focus more on the one product having it available for EVERYONE as an option no matter what DAW host they use.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/17 12:48:25
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3. Plugin delay compensation bypass. ie: I'm at 99% of my finished mixdown (with plugins and UAD plugs etc), but got inspired to add one more piano MIDI track. I will get 100ms of latency with all the plugins, so I have to bypass every single effect bin in every track and group...blah... One button would solve this.
I understand what you need, but I dont think that disabling pdc is going to work like you suggest. Your tracks will still be running through the plugins and with pdc off I dont think your newly recorded track would line up properly when you reengaged pdc. Maybe a feature that temporarily removes all plugins from a given project would work better, with a simple way to recall them after adding another track. The only other way to do it that I know of is to bounce down a stereo track of your mix, open in a new project and record additional tracks then import them back to the original project. Not ideal I know.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/17 13:02:05
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I believe he meant the button to bypass the entire plug (audio path) as well as cancel the delay compensation that it imposes.
Yes, this is a compromise, but a tolerable reality when you have to go in and track that one more synth.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/17 14:21:41
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a few things I would like to see..
1. stereo panning options for stereo tracks.
2. I would like the buss system, mainly the location of it to be reworked. I like how in cubase it has the buses right up there with your audio, in a folder of course.
3. not as many plugins included, but higher quality ones.
4. audiosnap in my opinion is not very friendly, i think that should be reworked.
5. a new and simpler interface for sonar overall.
6. clip envelope keybind
7. more detail in the audio engine (I believe the sound in Sonar is great, but there still is better)
8. less overall program congestion, more intuitiveness.
9. media manager. If you are familiar with mediabay, something along those lines.
10. far more in depth audio editing. Once I also started using Cubase, I had no need for any external audio editor.. it did it all.
11. V-Vocal is kind of a pain to use, plus it also disables exporting bundles.
12. Track presets.
I believe Sonar is at it's all time highest yet, but a few things can be done to bring it to a new level.
More polish and extreme attention to highest details, less mediocre plugs and bloat.. but what is included in S8 should be extremely awesome!
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/17 14:29:18
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Tempo graph lined up with notes in PRV just like controller data.
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enharmonic
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/17 20:53:44
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I didn't read all 4 screens of replies, so sorry if this is a dupe.
Nested track folders!!!! This would be the bee's knees for keeping things neat and organized.
Hey, mhuang - many of the things you've requested can easily be done in CAL.
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Notecrusher
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 04:48:30
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i wouldn't want to see the p5 groove matrix chucked into sonar. i'd rather they take a look at that, ableton, and other loop based tools and build something better. i'd like to see an emphasis on a clean way to audition new midi, audio and saved grooves within the context of what you've got playing, then pop in the auditioned content.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 04:50:51
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I want to see 'MIDI sends' so that multiple softsynths can be driven from a single midi track.
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SongCraft
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 08:59:03
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i'd rather they take a look at that, ableton
I love Cakewalk stuff, in fact CW was the first DAW I purchased! Several months ago I was upset to read an article about P5 as it implied that CW is a LIVE or ACID Copycat. IMHO Cakewalk has been around far longer with Midi and Audio developments, and CW is more than capable of producing outstanding products in their own right!!! CW has consistently continued to enhance their products giving us excellent tools at fantastic value. I would love to see this trend continue but also see enhancements in other critical areas... (I'll explain later - read on) Eventually I'll get round to submitting the following Feature Requests:
- New GUI --- I think Sonar needs a totally new clean, lean and mean interface redesign that is built on the concept of simplicity and speeding up the workflow.
01: GUI optimized with lighter-weight graphics, yet more clearer.
02: Have a clever Floating, Dockable, Resizable Properties Box that contains all the tools/menus of the current view. Keeping the workspace uncluttered and speeding up the workflow. (I went into more detail about this in my previous post - see page: 2)
- Ultimate Midi Sequencer --- similar to the Groove Matrix but much better of course,,, but I'll have to go into a little more detail herein since NoteCrusher misconstrued my post.
AH!! Now that Roland technology is and has already been integrated into Cakewalk products it's about bloody time for THE Ultimate Midi Sequencer. Long, Long ago CW started out as a Midi app therefor it should continue and lead the field in that respect....
01: Pattern Mode for creation of unlimited midi tracks also including multi-fx's patching, ADSR, and various Envelopes (mod). Include RealTime and StepTime modes with Smart Midi tools integrated and various edit views (such as; Staff, Piano, Grid) Based on a new GUI interface (See above)
02: Song Mode (Arranger) This is where the fun kicks in.  with included ability to arrange On The Fly (NO need to hit the Stop Button).
03: Performance Mode For LIVE performance. On The Fly adjustments of program-(instrument), vol, pan, fx's, ADSR and other options. Based on a totally new GUI so that the Ultimate Sequencer contains all the options/tools within the same view.
04: Save As ability to save Ultimate Midi Sequencer compositions including all settings such as; Vol, Pan, FX's, ADSR and other settings.
Include...
Smart Sync perfect timing to current Project. Automatically keeps perfect timing of current project with the ability to change Tempo and Transpose 'On The Fly'. Integration with the Ultimate Midi Sequencer ability to Auto-Quantize Audio tacks to the Sequencer.
10,000 Loop Library (included with the Ultimate Midi Sequencer) Covering all Styles/Genres including.... Atmosphere, Film-Score and New Experimental. The library should also includes many Movie Sound FX's. Also... all Libraries presets can be edited such as.. ASDR, Modulation, LFO, HFO, Timbre, therefor allowing far great flexibility.
- V-Vocal Pro --- Auto Pitch Correction and Harmonizer. (I've seen way too many posts on this forum in regards to Auto Pitch Correction and Harmonizers) So how about beefing up the good old V-Vocal. Oomph!!!!
- Auto Audio Quantize --- that smoothly integrates with the Ultimate Sequencer Timing/Tempo/Transpose (See above)
- All CW product-line should be shorten and renamed: ProAVcreator and ALL products should include Surround Sound with improved Panning controls and THE Ultimate Midi Sequencer. --- (2): To allow CW developers more time to focus on QUALITY (before rushing out the next version with numerous patches) there should be only three delicious Cake flavours as follows....
01: Workstation (cross between P5 and HSXL but far more imporved. (see above) This will be very cool for those on a limited budget with the option to later upgrade or add plugins of their choice but still have all the critical things such as the Ultimate Midi Sequencer and editing tools to refine their compositions.
02: Studio Edition a little more packed in, a good balance between the Workstation and Producer Edition.
03: Producer Edition The Ultimate Cake version with all the nice delicious goodies including improved VC-64 with enhanced CPU optimization and the best Mastering Reverb on the planet
- Focus on much greater enhanced CPU optimization and improved Audio Interface cross-integration that will allow any hardware (including SB, Onboard MB Audio, HD 5.1 and 7.1 Audio) to run smoothly on all CW products. With enhanced CPU optimization this will allow single Core CPU's to run approximately 32 Tracks (including THE Ultimate Midi Sequencer) + CW Plugins without too much a load on the CPU.
- Enhance Stability to enable On the Fly performances for On-Stage live performance. (see above - THE Ultimate Midi Sequencer)
- Enhanced Publisher - Add file compatibility for all Video platforms. AND the ability to burn RED Book CD and DVD's. Include Professional CD/DVD Menu import Artwork from apps such as Adobe (compatible with all file formats with conversion of .FLV, .SWi and other animated file formats such as .GIF)
Anyway! This post may have in-corrections or be miscontrued!! Hell!! I simply don't have time to spare on BS!! Afterall I'm trying to contribute towards good intentions. I do have a life beyond this forum. Therefor... Goodnight! See-Ya! Chow, Goodbye
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Legion
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 09:19:58
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GUI-wise more than customizing colors it would be great to be able to choose between topics/scenes like for example one flat and booring but easy to see GUI, one cool vintage-inspired (based on VC64) and one futuristic (based on LP64/Rapture) that way everyone could get what they wanted and you'd be able to use the flat booring one to work with and one of the flashier ones to impress your friend who use an ugly DAW or work with if you like me think an ugly/booring GUI i hampering creativity (as some on the other hand think 3D does and find it cluttered...).
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Bren Gun
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 09:50:42
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What I would like in the next SONAR is a couple of useful new standard plugins that are low on resource consumption. Just a few:
- A "signal stretcher" Ã la Waves' S1 Imager: easy to operate and very effective.
- A good low-resource harmonic exciter for both individual tracks and mastering.
- EQ that has built-in frequency analysis à la Voxengo. The Sonitus EQ is nice, but give it some freq analysis and it would own a lot more. Also to remove and add bands as much as you like would own a lot. I'm sure a deal could be made to tweak the Sonitus EQ.
- The free Kjaerhus Classic Master Limiter should be available as standard in SONAR. Perhaps the Cakewalk guys could make a deal to include it out of the box?
There should no more samplers or anything like that added.
The whole program needs a complete rebuild from the ground up to remove the rubbish and it must be perfectly coded for superior performance and bugfree-ness.
Standard keyboard shortcuts must be more "intuitive" and optimally allocated/organized so it isn't necessary to tweak them yourself (unless you have good reason to).
Like it was said, cleaner interface that is more optimal and that more easily makes sense without making it too much different from what is the current one.
Ability to have both the track view and console view on one screen.
In fact, I would very much like it if the whole program could be chosen to use a standard optimal setting for one video monitor.
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tim101
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 12:26:14
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Simple stuff mainly. Mostly visual. I'm pretty happy with the functionality really. 1) Clean up the track folder.
When you have a synth track folder you get a strip at the top that is of no use whatsoever and takes up space on the screen. When the folder is open this strip is still there doing nothing. When you're focused on the MIDI the audio track is so much blank space.
Instead, I'd like a feature where when the folder is collapsed, you see the MIDI track, the audio envelopes, and the MIDI and audio FX, so it worked like an instrument track, but at the same time you could expand it to see the MIDI and audio tracks so you could route inputs and outputs as you do now. You could just do by tweaking what is displayed, I don't think you'd have to change anything major under the hood. I teach music tech, Sonar is one of our main sequencers (the other being Logic). I can tell you that the messy screen is something that puts students off otherwise excellent software.
Yes, I know you can hide the audio outputs in the track manager but it's still messy to use and doesn't really do what I want.
This one in red because to me it's the most important as far as easy workflow goes.
2) A visible grid in the clips pane rather than just bar lines. While we're at it, MIDI clips default to begin on the bar so when I copy and paste something that starts 1 beat in I don't have to mess around so much - edit - not moving the note to the start of the bar obviously. Just the visual representation of the clip on the clips pane. Like Logic. I know CW doesn't want to be seen to copy other DAWs but dammit those things are there for a reason. 3) Velocity bars instead of lines So much easier on the eye 4) Instrument selection by type So If I want, say, strings I can see all the presets in all the synths and samplers, like in Kore or for that matter P5. 5) Bring back colour on the buttons Remember how easy it was to find the synth rack or the mixer button in S2? Notice how hard it is now they're all grey? Yes, I know we should all learn the key commands but it should still be easier. 6) Improve the track EQ. It is far from transparent. 7) More intelligent real time fade behaviour When I have a bunch of identical but delinked clips in the clips view, say kick drum hits, and I want to put the same fade out on them all, it doesn't happen - Sonar seems to take the start of the first fade as the start of all the fades. All the fades except the first go from the very start of their respective clips instead of half way in or whatever. Yes, I know I can use a process dialogue box, but I want to lassoo a bunch of clips and fade them with a simple mouse movement. Am I missing something here? 8) A decent sampler like the EXS24. Now Logic costs less than Sonar this is a must. 9) Mac version. Yeah, I know. But I can dream. Last year it was "CW is a small company, we'd have to take 2 years to do this at the expense of developing the DAW". Fair enough, but maybe the Roland cash will enable CW to hire some extra coders to do this.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 12:39:01
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Oh, yeah, and Pro Tools style swipe select. This one thing would speed up my workflow about 3 times. Sonar - place cursor at start. Key "S". Place cursor at end. Key "S". Pro Tools - wave mouse vaguely in direction of desired region, the grid generally sorts it out. See?
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calaverasgrandes
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 13:23:46
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now that I have read thru, I am getting the impression that a lot of what you fellas are asking for is aleady there. I suggest that before you post any dream features you go thru a "Sonar Power" book, chapter by chapter, until you have mastered all the little nooks and crannies of the program. I dont wanna pick on any particular posts because people take that personally.
Quit asking that they make it just like P5, that makes no sense from a commercial standpoint for a company to mush their two products together. Thats why Photoshop and Illustrator are still seperate programs some 12 years later.
I will mention that to see the master buss up there with your audio just click the little "triangle on top of a box" icon at the bottom of the row of track properties, right next to "all/custom/mix/fx/io" tabs.
I think Sonar has a very good audio engine and decent editing capabilty. I agree that they need to stop throwing plugins/synths on it every release. Just make it clean, efficient and stable.
Oh yeah, and can I please get some coherence to the key bindings? Why dont the same keys do the same thing on an in line PRV as a regular PRV? Whats the logic here?
PS but really, can I get a track properties menu bar just for colors and looping/audio stretching. I did a FR for this and it seems to have been promptly ignored.
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SongCraft
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 21:27:01
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now that I have read thru, I am getting the impression that a lot of what you fellas are asking for is aleady there.
I suggest that before you post any dream features you go thru a "Sonar Power" book..
I'll promise to read my Sonar 7 Power book again, chapter by chapter before I'm welcome to post on this thread. ORIGINAL: calaverasgrandes
I dont wanna pick on any particular posts because people take that personally. Heed calaverasgrandes words or don't post here on this thread unless you have read the Sonar 7 Power book again and again chapter by chapter. LOL!! Oh COOL!! I have the Sonar 7 Power book. That means I can still post on this thread!! Whoo Hoo  :calaverasgrandes
Quit asking that they make it just like P5, that makes no sense from a commercial standpoint for a company to mush their two products together Nobody said that, I don't see those words written anywhere by anyone except you. I suggested P5 as a plugin because it would be better than Re-Wire and I also suggested great enhancements to the 'already' included Midi Sequencer capabilities built into Sonar.PE being CW flagship product (Sonar PE) as this would make it more tempting therefor this would be of greater benefit for CW and it's users plus making Sonar PE more tempting to anyone thinking of making the switch from competitors. calaverasgrandes, I highly recommend you read Scott's book: Sonar 7 Power, read it again chapter by chapter. You will learn quite a lot more from it. ORIGINAL: calaverasgrandes
Photoshop and Illustrator are...
.... are great Sci-Fi movies featuring Henry Fonda and John Wayne respectfully. DOH!! ORIGINAL: calaverasgrandes
Just make it clean, efficient and stable.
> You need to correctly setup your DAW (including hardware) to make Sonar stable. > You can customize Sonar view. I strongly suggest you read the Help Files and Scott's book again and again, chapter by chapter Peace 
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calaverasgrandes
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 21:48:41
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Yeah, this is why I dont really hang out here anymore. but yeah, thanks for your "stars of wisdom"  thats what I'd expect from anyone that wants sonar to add a "10,000 Preset Sequencer Loop Library" 
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calaverasgrandes
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/18 23:26:50
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Just a little heads up, Sonitus wahwah has an auto filter mode thats pretty good,
Pentagon has a vocoder hidden in it, takes some work to make it sound good though. I usually throw a (hardware) compressor on the vocal source when I use it.
But yeah a transient mod like the Sonnox or SPL ones would be neat. Especially if it had a midi feature like the Drawmer 201.
Sonar 7.0.3, Mattel Synsonics, Motu 828MKII (BLA), TC-powercore, Stillwell plugins, Moog MG1, Korg Poly 800, DX27s, Moogerfooger Lowpass, Ovation Magnum, Stingray fretless, Mesa Bass 400, Waldorf Edition, DBA fuzz war, Summit 2BA221, etc
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SongCraft
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/19 03:50:01
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and more goodies to add to the wish list 
- If there was some way to use .GIF files for the GUI (including the clips) instead of .bmp. (Gif files are much more clearer and much more lighter in file size compared to .bmp)
- I would like to see more developments (plugins) such as the VC, LP and PSP. Hmmm how bout (1)-LP-64 Exciter and (2)-Amp Sim with a focus on good 'smooth' clean sounds also and a simple sustain control that would be ideal for lead guitar.
- And now that Roland has jumped in with a major share invested I would love to see a few Surface Controllers come in various models (keeping costs competitive from $99 and upward to $400 max for larger units with up to 16 faders, smaller cheaper unit with 2 faders) that specifically works beautifully with Sonar. Nice features such as wireless removable/dockable transport control (perfect for the one-man home studio) with smooth 100.mm motorize faders, and of course more than enough dials.
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Twigman
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/19 03:59:50
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I'd like to see a powerful sample player like Kontakt.
I came on board @ Sonar5 and the Vsampler had been dropped by then.
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arkiruthis
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/19 05:27:49
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MIDI OUT VSTs in the MIDI track's own MIDI FX bin
Just like we can with MFX. (imo, MIDI outputting VSTs seemingly being more popular thesedays)
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moffdnb
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/19 08:11:04
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Updated to SONITUS EQ
Built in EQ is great for bread a butter subtractive EQ but would like to see a steeper curve response. Hasn't been updated in so long. Still good though...
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aj
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/19 08:46:36
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1. If you MUST add any more softsynths - and I understand the lure as development can be done in parallel without screwing with the core Sonar code - then I second the notion of a decent sampler - playback only would do - that supports streaming from disk and will read (at the least) Kontakt sample sets - but this is going to annoy NI, of course. It would thrill me though because I have several sample sets I have to use the (now orphaned) Kompakt product to play and I don't need a full sampler, and VSampler, even the full version, never really did handle Kontakt sample sets reliably... and Maz seems to have given up, so we're stuck....
(I also though the idea of a speaker emulator was terrific - mono AM radio, for instance. This is a GOOD and USEFUL idea and will keep those plugin people busy! )
2. As others have said, in effect - can we have some non-modal dialogues please for properties etc. I hate, I hate, I hate the fact that the vast majority of Sonar dialogues are modal. This is developer-friendly and user-unfriendly.
3. I still find looping awkward in Sonar. I'd like to play something, hit a button or a key on my keyboard to mark the start of a loop and then another to mark the end, and keep doing this until I've marked everything up (which would be effectively like adding track markers - which, exasperatingly, tend to bring up those wretched modal dialogues!). Then why can't Sonar be smart enough to create a loop region for each pair of markers and then let me switch between multiple loops quickly. Even a 'go to marker and loop on next marker' function would be a real improvement.
4. I'd like Scott to do a deal with Cake and for him to sit and help them rewrite the online help until it is task-centric and actually useful. I'm sorry, but really Sonar's online help is mostly what Jerry Pournelle used to call 'clear if already known'. This is one reason why so many of us say 'but I didn't know you could do that....'
5. Play order lists... bump X 1000.
6. I suggested a while back that the step sequencer would be more useful if it worked like a drum machine i.e you hit a note (or a pad) and it's placed in the step matrix at the nearest quantised point, hit it again next time round the loop and the event is erased. Just like a drum machine. Currently you can't do that.
7. Keyboard binding. Can we please bind to SCAN CODES as well as ctrl+whatever. This would let me bind all those useful media keys etc. on new keyboard to actually useful Sonar functions... like controlling the transport, for instance. And while I'm on the subject, why can't MIDI CCs etc. invoke Sonar events WITHOUT a shift function to enable them?. (I'd be happy to switch to NRPNs for MIDI binding if this makes Cakedevs nervous)
That'll do. I'll get greedy otherwise. But Cake, I promise, I will be grumpy if what we get is a fresh plethora of synths - Rupture XXLE and all that. Stop now!. You're supposed to be building a better DAW....
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JoseC.
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RE: Sonar 8 Wish List
2008/02/19 09:20:53
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ORIGINAL: dewdman42
A PRV with integrated staff view.
EXCELLENT!!!...Or at least the possibility of linking both views, so you can have one on top of the other, and zoom in and out keeping both of them aligned.
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