Clips and loop start point

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Pokuman
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2009/03/04 20:11:56 (permalink)

Clips and loop start point

how can I get sonar to display the complete midi clip after a recording. ( as per loop start and end point)

Sonar only creates midi clips from where the note on is detected. When copying or moving the clips I then have to make sure that the left of the clip is aligned to the start of the bar so that the notes are relatively in the same position.

I hope my explanation makes sense. Could be something simple but i just haven't quite figured that out yet.

thanks



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    Susan G
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    RE: Clips and loop start point 2009/03/04 20:38:14 (permalink)
    Hi-

    Just slip-edit the edges (put the mouse at each edge until the cursor becomes a rectangle and drag). This is easiest if you have Snap To Grid on, set to Measure. To turn it into a Groove Clip, press Ctr-L. Don't use Bounce to Clips on it, though, or it'll go back to the original length.

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    Marah
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    RE: Clips and loop start point 2009/03/04 21:18:06 (permalink)
    What Susan said.

    Alternately, you can set the Snap options to "Snap By" and you can then drag-copy/move the clip to exact time units (measures, quarters, etc.) no matter where the clip actually starts.

    But yeah, I often like my clips to start on bars, even if there's nothing actually in the first ticks of the clip. It's visually better. Especially MIDI clips for some reason. Susan's suggestion is the way to insure that.

    Hmmm would an option to always have MIDI clips start on the bar (or maybe on the current snap interval...?), even if the data starts later, be worthwhile....?
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    Pokuman
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    RE: Clips and loop start point 2009/03/05 03:45:34 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Susan G

    Hi-

    Just slip-edit the edges (put the mouse at each edge until the cursor becomes a rectangle and drag). This is easiest if you have Snap To Grid on, set to Measure.

    -Susan


    hi,

    tnx for your reply.

    that's what I do now, but of course forget from time to time. until i realize that the timing in copied parts is completely off.


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    Pokuman
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    RE: Clips and loop start point 2009/03/05 04:02:03 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Marah

    What Susan said.

    Alternately, you can set the Snap options to "Snap By" and you can then drag-copy/move the clip to exact time units (measures, quarters, etc.) no matter where the clip actually starts.

    But yeah, I often like my clips to start on bars, even if there's nothing actually in the first ticks of the clip. It's visually better. Especially MIDI clips for some reason. Susan's suggestion is the way to insure that.

    Hmmm would an option to always have MIDI clips start on the bar (or maybe on the current snap interval...?), even if the data starts later, be worthwhile....?


    The snap by/move by option is probably best for my way of working. I have this setting now on. I have the snap properties always on measures, especially during midi recording. Thanks for this suggestion!

    worthwhile, not sure. certainly handy cause I also find it easier to work with the bars...
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    Tom F
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    RE: Clips and loop start point 2009/03/05 05:23:43 (permalink)
    i was wondering also if there was any hidden setting to get the clip lenght as long as the loop selection per default - the fact that you have to make 2 edits to every recorded midiclip is extremely annoying imo....
    also i havent figured out yet how (or if) its possibel to draw an empty midiclip....
    certainly midi isnt strenght of sonar compared to other sequencers i used.

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    Tom F
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    RE: Clips and loop start point 2009/03/05 05:28:39 (permalink)
    Hmmm would an option to always have MIDI clips start on the bar (or maybe on the current snap interval...?), even if the data starts later, be worthwhile....?


    yeah - i was was thinking that i just had overlooked that option for a year now...so no i discover that its just "not" there - funny that all other sequencers handle it that way we would like it to be - í often wonder where some of that "antiworkflow" implementations come from (like the snap to grid options menue without keybinding even after the new prerset option...) i guess in sonar (compared to cubase or logic) i have to click on my mouse 300% more often..

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