marcoR
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/17 10:07:15
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Here is a link to a page I threw together that should help to explain what the issue really is for me at least. http://www.arismlsswf.com/marco/sync.asp Test for yourselves using the method like didger in his first post.
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/17 15:52:04
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Again. Anyone know what Firewire chipset they're using successfully? It's very easy to identify if you don't know how: Goto 'Control Panel' - 'System' - '1394' The name of the installed 1394 firewire interface listed here will most definately be the name of the chipset, not the card manufacturer. For instance, my card is manufactured by Belkin but shows up as 'VIA OHCI Compliant Firewire'.
It will probably something like 'Texas Instruments', 'VIA', or 'Ogere'. Anyone My system has a Texas Instruments OHCI compliant IEEE 1394. Besides the occasional clicking sounds when I first use the 1884 all is well. I'm pretty happy with it.
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trower
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/17 16:34:57
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Hey guys, what kind of space does the 1884 take up? I cant find it anywhere?
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marcoR
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/17 16:54:45
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Hey guys, what kind of space does the 1884 take up? I cant find it anywhere? 22.9 wide by 18.9 deep and 5.4 inches high. It hangs over the front of my computer desk. Pretty good size.
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trower
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/17 19:16:15
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22.9 wide by 18.9 deep and 5.4 inches high. It hangs over the front of my computer desk. Pretty good size. eek!!!! I'm not sure if I'm ready to be divorced yet. Marco, you know of any rack that might handle that size?
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trower
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/17 19:41:21
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I just found some pdf files on the 1884. One was a applications guide. It shows several different setups that can be done with the 1884. Each one shows at least 2 speaker setups, from 2 to 5.1
But doesn't show a audio interface hooked to it. Does this mean the audio goes into the 1884 through the firewire, or how do you pipe the audio into it?
I know, its a newb question.
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marcoR
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/17 20:13:44
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Trower, This is probably the link you found but I’ll post it anyway. http://www.tascam.com/product_info.php?pid=269&nav=computer_recording Basically, you connect instrument, mics, etc to the FW-1884 by means of: 8 channels of analog input, both balanced line in and XLR plus an insert on each. 8 channels of ADAT lightpipe 2 channels stereo S/PDIF inputs and outputs The FW-1884 connects to your computer via firewire.
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TimH
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/18 16:20:29
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Hi Didger,
Yeah I am using XP and with MME it DOES work. Classic YMMV. Apparently TASCAM will have the fix up in the next few days.
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digipenguin
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/18 21:10:23
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Ok, so I don't know what happened but I can't make this thing mess up. Everything is working like a champ. I'm switching bit depth. I'm switching sample size. I'm switching sample rate, midi devices....etc. Cool, huh? I just recorded 8 tracks at 24/96 at once. Then recorded 4 tracks at 16/44 and two midi tracks over top. Perfect sync. I'm lovin' it. I don't expect this to last as I'm not even sure what I did to correct the problems I was having but I sure am close to being completely sold on this thing. Cheers.
Oh, Mockster. I was using that chipset and noticed a substantial increase in reliability when I switched to a VIA chipset. Weird. Is your Firewire onboard or do you use a PCI card? Not that it should really matter, just wondering.
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digipenguin
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/18 21:12:31
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ORIGINAL: marcoR
It hangs over the front of my computer desk. Pretty good size.
 What! Oh, you were talking about the FW. I was about to feel inadequate. 
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trower
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/18 23:09:25
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It hangs over the front of my computer desk. Pretty good size. My wife had one of those wierd smiles after reading this. :)
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marcoR
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 08:05:52
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22.9 wide by 18.9 deep and 5.4 inches high. It hangs over the front of my computer desk. Pretty good size.
eek!!!! I'm not sure if I'm ready to be divorced yet.
Marco, you know of any rack that might handle that size?
Trying to hold back, but yes I know a few sets of racks that could handle that size. It hangs over the front of my computer desk. Pretty good size.
My wife had one of those wierd smiles after reading this. :) that or the "18.9 deep " part So how about those crazy firewire cards...
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digipenguin
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 08:23:13
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I got yer firewire right here, Babeee! For all I know the card switch may not have been the catalyst for the better performance. Especially since it seems to have fixed itself again with no help from me.
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trower
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 09:04:54
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Macro, point me in a direction on those racks you know of.
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Mockster
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 09:24:49
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Oh, Mockster. I was using that chipset and noticed a substantial increase in reliability when I switched to a VIA chipset. Weird. Is your Firewire onboard or do you use a PCI card? Not that it should really matter, just wondering. I think it's onboard. I have two firewire ports in the back and one in the front of the computer. HP 9870, 1.3 Ghz 512 RAM. I'm pretty happy with the way the 1884 is performing. I don't always hear clicks and when I do they don't last long. But I must admit, I wish I knew what was causing the clicks.
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digipenguin
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 09:28:07
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Oh, I think I know what you're talking about. Are the clicks intermittent and usually about 10 seconds apart? I get these sometimes even when I'm not running Sonar.
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Mockster
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 09:34:48
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Yes, exactly. I too get them also when I'm not running Sonar.
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marcoR
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 09:41:56
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I thought the clicks were related to the clock checking or adjusting the sample rate to the current project. I hear it when I change the sample rate or run the wave profiler. And when I'm not in Sonar. hmmm
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didger
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 13:13:41
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Me too. Clicks and pops in and out of Sonar, which can be allieved somewhat by messing with buffer settings (mine does best with 1884 buffers somewhat high), but never really go away. Sometimes the 1884 loses control over some parameters, including the control panel, after a particularly nasty spat of pops.
And all I can say is... COME ON TASCAM, POST THOSE FREAKIN' DRIVERS!!!
Okay, I'm calm again. I'm being so trusting that this thing will start working with new drivers that I ordered a Behringer Ultragain ADA8000 yesterday. That box is a good tip for anyone with an FW-1884 who thinks they may need additional inputs. It's just a 1 rack space unit with 8 channels of XLR and TRS in, and XLR out, with 24 bit ADAT in/out. Plug that right into the 1884's ADAT in, and you've got 16 channels, if your computer can handle it. Mic that drum kit all you want.
Randy
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marcoR
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 13:38:28
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I don’t smoke but a joke among smokers is that when eating out, if you want the food to come, Light up a cigarette. The food comes right out…
So maybe if I post that those ******* driver will never be released…we’ll be waiting till next year…I’m taking the dang thing back!!!
A cosmic force will kick in and will them to post the drivers today…
Or maybe we need a hardware sacrifice…who’s ready to burn there FW?…any takers.
We can have a ceremony and didger can play his didgeridoo.
I can feel the magic already…post the drivers… post the drivers… post the drivers...
Everyone chant with me.
Did I mention I don’t smoke?
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didger
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 13:46:07
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I think you're smoking _something_.
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digipenguin
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 13:55:33
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post the drivers....post the drivers....post the drivers.....
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 15:53:59
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I'm having the same problem with recorded tracks not being in "sync". Have been working with Frontier Design, and indeed they confirmed the driver is done and in Tascam's hands to post.
I am using Sonar 3 Producer now, and switched the driver to ASIO, and the same problem exists. This one however, is caused by Sonar, and apparently a new update will be coming from Cakewalk that addresses the ASIO issue and additionally will have Sonar 3 utilize hyper-threading (cool)..
Just my 2 cents worth... (Notice that the cents symbol is no longer on computers?)
Randy
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digipenguin
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/19 18:02:41
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digipenguin
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/20 23:33:19
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Ok, So I'm putting it to the test. I just set up a band for tomorrow and I'm gonna use the FW. Wish me luck!
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trower
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/21 02:25:27
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Hey digi, I see your from St Louis. Did you get your FW from a store in town??
If you did, which one was it?
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digipenguin
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/21 11:47:09
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Guitar Center over on St Charles Rock Rd. But it was the last one. They aren't even putting out display models because people keep walking in and asking for it. That's what I did. When I first went in I asked if we could open it to have a look and they actually said no. Just thought I'd let you know in case that was your plan. I'm sure they'll get one on display eventually but right now they can't keep 'em in stock and they don't want to lose a sale because the box was opened.
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trower
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/21 14:39:00
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Thanks didi for the info. I noticed there's 2 6pin firewire ports on the FW.
Is that like a bypass port? I have a miniDV deck that will have to share the firewire cable unless it can use the other port on the FW. I hope.
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digipenguin
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/21 15:54:37
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Yes, you can connect your DVdeck. I wouldn't recommend trying to use them both at the same time though. Personally, I wouldn't daisy chain it with anything. Your computer only has 1 firewire jack?
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trower
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RE: Sonar 2.2 & Tascam FW-1884 sync problems?
2003/12/21 16:30:52
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No, the firewire card has 2 but I have a external HD into one of them. I dont plan to use them both at the same time. But it would make it easier to chain it off the FW (When I get one) I hope the FW wont have a problem with the firewire card. It's the card that came with Liquid Edition. Everything else works fine with it.
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