8.5 upgrade pricing US v UK

Hey all

Anyone managed to get an answer from Cake as to why you have to pay so much more for a download of 8.5 in the UK compared to US ?  (99$ = £89  ? - not according to any exchange rate I've ever seen !)
I've tried asking the question directly via e-mail, but as per usual in my experience  - no reply !

For the record, so that you all don't just think of me as Mr Negative Moany-Pants, I think Sonar is a great product and have learnt a great deal from the many good people on this forum who take the time to answer peoples questions - and I thank you all for this.  I also know from many hours spent reading the posts on this forum that some of the nice people from CW are often on here too, so how about it guys - an answer please ? 

Thanks for the reply SH. I've seen the thread , I've seen the opinions, but I'm still yet to see a definitive answer.

BTW I've noticed that despite being strikinglyhandsome, you don't have a picture posted. I this because you fear that the sheer extent of your handsomeness may turn ordinary mortals agianst you ? ;)

Yeah I know that feeling. I'm just glad to hear I'm no longer alone, it really can be a burden.

I wish we were in the euro, stupid english people I hate them

In the UK here also, think i'll hang back on purchasing until its clarified.

paulo


Hey all

Anyone managed to get an answer from Cake as to why you have to pay so much more for a download of 8.5 in the UK compared to US ?  (99$ = £89  ? - not according to any exchange rate I've ever seen !)
I've tried asking the question directly via e-mail, but as per usual in my experience  - no reply !

For the record, so that you all don't just think of me as Mr Negative Moany-Pants, I think Sonar is a great product and have learnt a great deal from the many good people on this forum who take the time to answer peoples questions - and I thank you all for this.  I also know from many hours spent reading the posts on this forum that some of the nice people from CW are often on here too, so how about it guys - an answer please ? 

That is easy to answer:   It is all in the shipping and handling, imagine what it costs to pack all those bits for shipping across the Atlantic, I'm surprised it doesn't cost thousands....
 
Seriously this has been discussed many times, the US adds Tax at point of sale on a state by state basis, the UK adds tax (and duty) before point of sale. So prices will always be very different.
 
I am from the UK but now live in the US and have shipped items over for family several times even though I have told them that it will be no cheaper when Tax and Duty is added... Sure enough they end up complaining about the total cost. This is not a Cakewalk or Roland issue but a UK tax issue.

jrmunday


Anybody ever been tempted to pose as a US citizen and pay in dollars using VISA and download?
The odd time I have imported stuff from US I don't get clobbered like this - in fact I have download in dollars if that makes sense.
I don't want or need a disc or manual for 8.5 - in fact the only plugin off any interest is the VX64 and I have better already. Might miss this for now as I reckon it is way over priced.
The full upgrade for a brand new version was £119 so why bother with this? 8.3.1 is reasonably good and fairly stable - only crashes about every 3 or 4 sessions with me but am used to it now.

I did for one upgrade for Cakewalk something either Pro Audio or early Sonar.  Can not do it now as you have to provide a billing address.
 
There did used to be a loop hole where you could buy software say it was worth no more than the cost of the media then you only paid tax on the value of the media.
 
Some tax man closed that probably Gordon B.

but you gotta find it funny that your from a place thats shares a name with some where in England... same with Boston also (in lincs.hehe)

I think Gordon Brown summed this up a few years back when he said:

"Cakewalk's pricing for Europe and the UK is based on ideas which stress the growing importance of international co-operation and new theories of economic sovereignty across a wide range of areas, macro-economics, trade, the environment, the growth of post neo-classical endogenous growth theory and the symbiotic relationships between government and investment in people and infrastructures - a new understanding of how labour markets really work and constructive debate over the meaning and implications of competitiveness at the level of individuals, the firm or the nation and the role of government in fashioning modern industrial policies which focus on nurturing competitiveness."

Took the words right out of my mouth, Gordon

 

This has nothing to do with History or nationality so why go down this road. Its about getting a fair price.

Whine , whine , whine.  We lived in England for 5 years and know all about whinging POMs.
 
British Airways is the only airline company where they can turn off the engines and you can still here the whining. ROFL.
Simple, move Downunder to the Lucky Country and your problems are over. That's what the smart ones did.

so it's my imagination the Aussies weren't moaning about the Tally of medal in the last  olympics compare to the UK ? 

if your gonna drop lyrics like that .... be objective..

lets see... draught restrictions for a start and the ozone is a tad depleted there. EVERY country has it bad points as well as good, you can't be THAT blinkered surely.

SteveStrummerUK

Da=man
 
Whine , whine , whine.  We lived in England for 5 years and know all about whinging POMs. 
 

 
John, surely sometimes you have to whine or nothing ever gets changed?
 
 
Now, let's talk cricket
 

 

Steve,
 
Okay..... I have to come clean here.  I did whine more than once. In fact I whined and my wife whined more. Do you want to know about what.
 
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About the rain, overcast skies, the rain, clouds, the rain, the mould in cupboards, the damp, the cold, the rain, the gray skies, ..did I mention the rain????
 
Yes we whined for the entire 5 years we lived up in North Eastern part of England. My wife (an Aussie) could take no more and now I realise she was the smart one. (I'm American by birth so you know I couldn't be the smart one)
 
Hey forget about the cricket. I don't watch it. I grew up playing baseball. But I do follow Rugby League. If you want to talk about the world cup then I'm here. We went to a game played here last year between England and New Zealand and we were actually cheering for England. (They were winning most of the game but lost in the end)  The Aussies win the World Cup every year in this sport.
 
Oh yea,  I grew up in Pittsburgh and the Pittsburgh Steelers won the Super Bowl this year!
I know you don't care but that's as close as I come to cricket. It is so boooring to watch.  I hope England wins every year.

Personally I don't really have anything against England except the bad weather and the fact that we had to throw their tea overboard.

That is easy to answer:   It is all in the shipping and handling, imagine what it costs to pack all those bits for shipping across the Atlantic, I'm surprised it doesn't cost thousands....
 
Seriously this has been discussed many times, the US adds Tax at point of sale on a state by state basis, the UK adds tax (and duty) before point of sale. So prices will always be very different.
 
I am from the UK but now live in the US and have shipped items over for family several times even though I have told them that it will be no cheaper when Tax and Duty is added... Sure enough they end up complaining about the total cost. This is not a Cakewalk or Roland issue but a UK tax issue.


I am asking about downloads. Where does shipping and handling come into it ? Still no reply from CW suprise, suprise. Come on Brandon, you're quick enough to reply when someone has a go about your hair. I'm not saying it's anything to do with you, but you know who to ask, right ?

Da=man

I'm American by birth... 
  

He he - that explains why it was a complete waste of time trying to wind you up about the cricket John!
 
A born and bred Aussie would never say he didn't like cricket - especially with the monotonous regularity they normally beat us at it
 
Cheers
 
Steve

cricket - football. I see today Man United had to bribe to ref to add on 2 extra mins on top of the 4 extra mins for them to win!

As for the upgrade: I'll wait for Cakewalk to offer a discount of 25% in their online shop before buying.