dmmi

I found the last one to be to much of "you can do this....and you can do this"
But not really show you how to do it.

Well, that basically sums this one up, except for the mixing part where they show you how to use Sonar in a practical way (sadly it wasn't long enough and seemed rushed).  This would've proven more useful then trying to go through most of Sonar features in one video.  I was hoping to see Audio Snap 2.0 in action, but that didn't happen (just an overview).
 

• The video quality was very good.
• Presentation was very good (though they had the wrong heading in the TOC - "SWA Complete iZotope Ozone 4")
• The audio quality was not so good in terms of how it was edited (chopped off words, residual ambience and some robot sounding parts).
• The voice was more intelligible.

 
Overall, I think it is worth the money if you're new to Sonar.  The video does a good job at showing you most of its features, but it rarely goes into a practical application of them.  I would've personally divided the content into two videos: Audio editing and MIDI editing in Sonar.  After all, it is more useful to see the tools in action rather than just tell you what they do.
 
Take care!

Chris,
Thanx for the extended period/promo code.  I just ordered Sonar 8.5, and because of your $20 generosity, I also ordered the Ozone 4 video.
Lance

Jose7822

dmmi

I found the last one to be to much of "you can do this....and you can do this"
But not really show you how to do it.

Well, that basically sums this one up, except for the mixing part where they show you how to use Sonar in a practical way (sadly it wasn't long enough and seemed rushed).  This would've proven more useful then trying to go through most of Sonar features in one video.  I was hoping to see Audio Snap 2.0 in action, but that didn't happen (just an overview).
 

• The video quality was very good.
• Presentation was very good (though they had the wrong heading in the TOC - "SWA Complete iZotope Ozone 4")
• The audio quality was not so good in terms of how it was edited (chopped off words, residual ambience and some robot sounding parts).
• The voice was more intelligible.

 
Overall, I think it is worth the money if you're new to Sonar.  The video does a good job at showing you most of its features, but it rarely goes into a practical application of them.  I would've personally divided the content into two videos: Audio editing and MIDI editing in Sonar.  After all, it is more useful to see the tools in action rather than just tell you what they do.
 
Take care!

Thanks for the comments - feedback is always important.

As for the TOC Typo - this has been fixed ;-) we actually posted a new version minutes after release once we spotted it.  

As for the audio on the voice over - we are working on re-editing the voice over to hopefully remove some of the sudden clips.  Some of the robot sounding parts - these will be taking care of.  

Thanks,
Chris

Chris Hawkins


As for the TOC Typo - this has been fixed ;-) we actually posted a new version minutes after release once we spotted it.  

As for the audio on the voice over - we are working on re-editing the voice over to hopefully remove some of the sudden clips.  Some of the robot sounding parts - these will be taking care of.  

Thanks,
Chris

This is very awesome Chris! This speaks volumes of you guys. 
 
Please let us know when you fix these issues.  There's no deadline, so take your time :-)
 
By the way, I know that a lot of people would appreciate a video on how and when to use more advanced techniques in Sonar (i.e. Parallel Compression, 2-Stage Compression, Audio Snap 2.0, Subgroup Mixing, Group Editing, Scoring to Video, etc).  Probably the best way to do this is by incorporating all of these techniques into a Mixing Session.  I don't know, just an idea :-)
 
 
Take care!

dmmi


I would like to read more comments before I order this time.

I found the last one to be to much of "you can do this....and you can do this"
But not really show you how to do it.

More like an advertisement.

Please post if you are happy or disappointed....Thank you

Happy.

I'm not sure I follow you regarding the "advertisement" line, though. It is a commercial, educational product. I would call it a general audio-visual demonstration, albeit not fully detailed in the case of some features, of what Sonar offers in an overview format. I don't think they promise much more than that, and I wouldn't classify over two hours of details as an "advertisement." Advertisements are for selling products and attracting attention. The purpose of advertisements is not really to educate, which these videos do (at least for me).

I have to add that I'm not an advanced user. Each time I check it out, I learn more stuff. But it all depends on your perspective. I agree with Jose though, an advanced video would be welcome. Scoring video is going to be something I will need to do. And how about one on Beatscape and other soft synths in Sonar, in addition to the Dim Pro and Rapture ones available? I'm a fan of this company's products, they are well done.

So, they for example dedicated 5 minutes to "Transpose", "Retrogade" and "Deglitch". But why did they not give any audio examples?

When talking about "Fit to time" they also did not show the result (as in most of the times), so I am honestly left without any idea, what they did and why.

the product is good, and after all the complaining regarding "the accent" on previous SWA videos, the voice-over is now "americanized" for the americans, but it almost sounds as if it were done by a voice that had to be run through americanization software.  no biggie, but neither was the accent on previous SWA releases for me.  i too would like some more in-depth tutorials on some of the aforementioned features, like audiosnap, v-vocal, etc

On the earlier versions..for me the problem with the accent was that I had to rewind and replay because I did not understand what Stuart said. And Stuart is an intellegent enough person to understand this could be an issue for some. Now some of you advanced users most likely understood what he said was talking about from the get-go. But people new to this had some problems. I highly praised the value of the content. For a newbie it was very informative.
You will get plenty of opinions here which will help in the purchase decision. At least you will be better informed before you buy…but you may also miss the pre-sale price.
 
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Thanks for the comments - feedback is always important.

As for the TOC Typo - this has been fixed ;-) we actually posted a new version minutes after release once we spotted it.  

As for the audio on the voice over - we are working on re-editing the voice over to hopefully remove some of the sudden clips.  Some of the robot sounding parts - these will be taking care of.  

Thanks,
Chris
 
Has anybody heard if they updated the audio as Chris stated? Did they release a newer version?

Wot?  No Scottish?  Must be a southern conspiracy.

;-)

there was going to be an updated version to this video, did it ever come out?

i paid the full price ;) somehow i would feel much better if they had resolved the issues with the tutorial in an update.

right now it is like this: they had a new customer in me who will not return for any other products.

4.99? That cheap? :(

Volume is so low I had to put a booster on earphones to hear it. Otherwise I enjoyed it.

I'm so suprised that people here actually think this video is actually 'good'. I don't carre how much it is, it's rubbish!

 If you buy something like a ruler in a 1£/1$ store and it snaps when a pencil touches it, do you say "oh it was only 1£/1$, I guess it was ok for the price"? NO, you say it it a piece of crap and it was a waste of money (no matter how cheap).

 I purchased the Groove3 Video (Effect Plug-ins Explained) a few days ago and was really happy that I did (I learned something). Can the SWA creators please go and see how this should be done...


'Mixdown' - HAHAHahahahahahahahahahahaha :(