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How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
Okay, I've been reading post after post and it doesn't seem like anyone has really commented on the sound of the pro channel. People seem more concerned about whether the mouse wheel works with it...great. Does anybody care what it sounds like? Could someone please test it and provide feedback? I understand that X1 has bugs-that's clear, and I know in time the developers will clean them up and eventually everyone will be happy. It's easy to see this DAW has a lot of potential...BUT, I want to know about the pro channel specifically. How does it sound with different settings? How many instances can you load up etc.? When I get my copy, I've decided that I'll install it on a separate partition (both 32 and 64 bit versions) to test it myself, but that won't be for a few days by the looks of things. So please, any comments on the quality of the pro channel are most welcome and very appreciated. Thanks a lot. 
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/08 20:56:46
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excellent ......the sound is ....
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/08 21:09:43
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It's sounds vintage - LOL
well - I think trying to describe how it sounds is hard -
think compressors and eq sounds of the rock 70's
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/08 21:48:54
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Mooch4056
think compressors and eq sounds of the rock 70's
Nice! That's what I was hoping for . Now, I'm gettin amped again...lol. Thanks for the info Mooch! Peace.
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/08 22:07:21
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I'd like to here feedback as well. Would like to know how some think it compares to some of the 3rd party emulations like Waves, PSP, UAD, etc. Especially the 1176 and SSL ones. Does it eliminate your need for any 3rd party eq/compressor plugins for the rest of your life? 
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/08 22:09:24
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Hi all, Pro channel sounds fantastic! Love the parallel NY compression, sidechaining and warmth. the Bus compessor adds analog warmth without coloring and or pumping (Yet getting the punch). Nice and smooth. Eq also has really beautiful low pass filters sweeps, nothing brittle in the highs, again, nice and smooth with a fair amount of shine. Coming from a Waves SSL user, this is my new S class compressor. best,
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/08 22:11:38
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Nice nice nice. Can't wait to test this thing out. Where is that flippin email?!!
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/08 22:53:28
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Mooch4056
It's sounds vintage - LOL
well - I think trying to describe how it sounds is hard -
think compressors and eq sounds of the rock 70's
That ought to make the more modern music makers happy ;)
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 00:02:11
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Pro Channel is v. good. One could argue that its worth the upgrade price alone...
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 00:14:34
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I'm playing around with re-mixing one of my songs to get familiar with the tools and layout. I activated the pro-channel in several tracks just using the presets (the vocal preset, Bass preset and one of the master mixes)
The vocal preset and the master mix preset I found to be horrible. Like, so horrible I wondered if the plug in was absolute garbage, but then figured Cake wouldnt include it and use it as a selling point if it was that bad..so it must be me. Overall, the Sonitus compressors sounded 10 x's better in my song. Of course, I adjusted those to my mix originally and they were not presets. I'm sure once I am familiar with the pro-channel I will get some better results.
In any event, after a slow start I am really loving the new work flow. AND drawing envelopes I dare say is FUn!
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 00:18:13
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I'm playing around with re-mixing one of my songs to get familiar with the tools and layout. I activated the pro-channel in several tracks just using the presets (the vocal preset, Bass preset and one of the master mixes)
The vocal preset and the master mix preset I found to be horrible. Like, so horrible I wondered if the plug in was absolute garbage, but then figured Cake wouldnt include it and use it as a selling point if it was that bad..so it must be me. Overall, the Sonitus compressors sounded 10 x's better in my song. Of course, I adjusted those to my mix originally and they were not presets. I'm sure once I am familiar with the pro-channel I will get some better results.
In any event, after a slow start I am really loving the new work flow. AND drawing envelopes I dare say is FUn!
So, the pro channel sounds good to some and like a** to others...
Great lol.
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 00:19:35
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Uh oh, here comes debbie downer LOL!
-Mousewheel support would be nice (or am I doing something wrong?)
-Don't care for the compressor, BUT I am not a compressor kinda-guy really. The meters not moving I believe has already been addressed?
-Saturation is very subtle imho, jury is WAY still out on that one.
-The eq is nice. I have to play around more with the different modes a bit more though as again they seem so subtle I can't tell the difference LOL
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 00:30:22
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Okay Debbie,
here we go.
- Mousewwheel support. It works fine on the inspector. Click on one on the knobs or sliders first (youll see a white outline around it) now you can mouse over that active inspector. Pro Channel seems to be inactive with mouseover, but Im sure it will be patched.
- Meter is working fine here on both compressors. Make sure you have enough threshhold for the signal to register.
Indeed playing with saturation a bit still. too early to tell.
EQ is smooth. like the low pass filter allot.
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 00:32:11
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Fess,
Dont hold alot of weight it my opinion. I will stand by the vocal and master mix preset sounding horrible (atleast in the song I used it in) but I am sure people can get very good results with the Pro-Channel. I am a compressor noob and it takes me forever to mix anything 1/2 way listenable.
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 00:55:05
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Mike, not attacking you or anything, but to say that the presets sounded horrible on your mix is pretty dumb. It is absolutely essential that you adjust parameters on a compressor preset according to your track. Otherwise you might be applying 25dB of gain reduction at a 6:1 ratio on your mix - hardly desirable. Have a go at mixing with it without presets, then I'd love to hear your thoughts...
post edited by jamescollins - 2010/12/09 00:56:28
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LpMike75
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 01:15:07
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Hey James,
You may of missed my first post (#11) where I basically pointed this out as well. I will definately play around with it in my next mix. As a matter of fact, as soon as I get done drawing in envelopes just for fun all over the place I might give 'er another go.
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chrisharbin
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 01:18:05
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Scott Lee
Okay Debbie,
here we go.
- Mousewwheel support. It works fine on the inspector. Click on one on the knobs or sliders first (youll see a white outline around it) now you can mouse over that active inspector. Pro Channel seems to be inactive with mouseover, but Im sure it will be patched.
- Meter is working fine here on both compressors. Make sure you have enough threshhold for the signal to register.
Indeed playing with saturation a bit still. too early to tell.
EQ is smooth. like the low pass filter allot.
Will do on the threshold, but so far my meters are dead. @Mousewheel support: Maybe mouseover is what I meant??
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 01:18:38
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No, I read that one and probably misunderstood it too! Do have a go with the ProChannel, I'm sitting through the download now, and would love to hear all about it.
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Scott Lee
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 01:28:50
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Hi Chris,
I believe we are on the same page. Basically you want to "mouseover" a knob then use the mouse wheel to rotate or drop raise the level of a meter correct?
The inspector indeed works while pro channel seems to not function properly. Im sure this will be addressed soon ;)
best,
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 01:40:20
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"phew"! I was beginning to wonder if it was just me. I also believe it will be addressed soon and look forward to it
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 01:46:55
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$$$ 10 000 000 dollar sound!  Sounds as major high end hardware mixers SSL, API, NEVE. Very Musial, warm sound!
But there are some graphic problems, bugs going on. Compressor meter doesn't work and mouse-pointer disappear right click in the console view? Bug! The ICONS of the "TUBE saturation"- icons doesn't get light up in use? Bug! Also, if you change the EQ settings in the track-view INSPECTOR, the graphic of the console view EQ Graff doesn't get changes in real time. BUG! The EQ Graff doesn't get updated in console of the same track until you select the CONSOLE view again on the second monitor. I use two screens. The first monitor "Track-view". the second monitor floating CONSOLE-view.
post edited by Freddie H - 2010/12/09 02:10:21
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 02:04:58
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I've done a quick comparison with the UAD 4K Buss Compressor and 1176LN. Mostly on drums, bass and full mix. My first impression was that they sounded pretty much the same. But I haven't done extensive testing yet. 
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 02:27:18
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LpMike75
I'm playing around with re-mixing one of my songs to get familiar with the tools and layout. I activated the pro-channel in several tracks just using the presets (the vocal preset, Bass preset and one of the master mixes)
The vocal preset and the master mix preset I found to be horrible. Like, so horrible I wondered if the plug in was absolute garbage, but then figured Cake wouldnt include it and use it as a selling point if it was that bad..so it must be me. Overall, the Sonitus compressors sounded 10 x's better in my song. Of course, I adjusted those to my mix originally and they were not presets. I'm sure once I am familiar with the pro-channel I will get some better results.
In any event, after a slow start I am really loving the new work flow. AND drawing envelopes I dare say is FUn!
I didn't even try the presets, I just adjusted each section by ear. I think it sounded really good, with just a few minutes of tweaking I got results better than I could get with Voxengo's Voxformer on a vocal track. I did note some of the GUI bugs that people reported here, but I'll bet the upcoming patch ( or the one after) fixes those. John
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 04:24:41
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Just toyed w/ it on some vocals. Sounded very crisp and warm to my ears. Will test it on some instruments and drums later. Interface will take some getting used to but that's to be expected.
The impression I got is that, like many tools, Pro Channel is very capable of achieving very professional, high end results if you know what you are doing. And that is pretty much all I was looking for. So I'm pleased with it. Definitely have a feeling this will help me cut down my 3rd party plugin usage.
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 04:30:59
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But there are some graphic problems, bugs going on.
Compressor meter doesn't work and mouse-pointer disappear right click in the console view? Bug!
The ICONS of the "TUBE saturation"- icons doesn't get light up in use? Bug!
Also, if you change the EQ settings in the track-view INSPECTOR, the graphic of the console view EQ Graff doesn't get changes in real time. BUG!
The EQ Graff doesn't get updated in console of the same track until you select the CONSOLE view again on the second monitor. I use two screens. The first monitor "Track-view". the second monitor floating CONSOLE-view.
SOLVED or I have found out WHY it doesn't work! It work perfect with AUDIO tracks but not with VST:s- Its because it need realtime streaming to work. The meters doen't work if you don't hit PLAY and playback SONAR X1. If you realtime playback the project all meters of Compressors and icons of "TUBE saturation"- lights up even on VST instruments. Cakewalk, please adress these problems ASAP. Regards Freddie
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 04:43:40
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Freddie, please see your other thread about this issue. This bug has been fixed and will be a part of the X1a update which is due out in the next few weeks. As for the topic at hand, we're all delighted to hear that you're liking the sound of the ProChannel so far. It's very gratifying to get such positive feedback.
post edited by Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk] - 2010/12/09 04:45:10
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 04:55:20
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Freddie, please see your other thread about this issue. This bug has been fixed and will be a part of the X1a update which is due out in the next few weeks.
As for the topic at hand, we're all delighted to hear that you're liking the sound of the ProChannel so far. It's very gratifying to get such positive feedback.
Thanks, and that are great news Seth! I'm just trying to help out others that wounder on same problems...
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 05:21:28
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Re:How does PRO CHANNEL sound???
2010/12/09 05:27:25
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Just toyed w/ it on some vocals. Sounded very crisp and warm to my ears. Will test it on some instruments and drums later. Interface will take some getting used to but that's to be expected.
The impression I got is that, like many tools, Pro Channel is very capable of achieving very professional, high end results if you know what you are doing. And that is pretty much all I was looking for. So I'm pleased with it. Definitely have a feeling this will help me cut down my 3rd party plugin usage.
That's very encouraging :) and if being able to cut back on third-party plugins, the P/Chn would be worth the upgrade alone. Question; What's the CPU hit like when using multiple (8 to 16) instances of Pro Channel?
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