An Honest Question: Was This Release RUSHED?

The out-of-nowhere announcement, the somewhat messy distribution, the lack of a reference guide with the program... I'm just wondering, Seth & co., HONESTLY, was the release of X1 rushed? Be it a response to the latest Pro Tools or WHATEVER. Some would argue so.

Not gonna slam you guys if it was. I'm just curious. Was this thing forced out somewhat prematurely? Or was this timeframe ALWAYS in mind for its release?

Thank you for asking this question I'm sure a few of us were thinking. I hope you (we) get an answer.

Peace.

I don't think so either. If it was rushed they would've put it out back in OCT when they used to release stuff. Seems fine to me.

Distro wasn't messed up for me either. They're using some kind of "cloud-based" service for downloads, so I don't fault them at all for the few glitches I've heard about. Figuring out the free upgrade folks is prolly also a function of their distro subcontractor. I don't got a prob with it.

There's already a patch scheduled which to me shows that they finalized their feature set and said "go". You have to at some point. The fact that they're already on top of the few bugs that have been encountered just says to me that they're on top of it.

This is total specualtion on my part, but my opinion as well:
 
ALL software is rushed out these days.   Period.
 
But, that being said ... I think there's a slight possibility that this is what would be considered a "paid beta test."   IOW, instead of having an open public beta test period, CW can get their money and have all of us debug it for them.
 
Which we are already doing ;)
 
There are, as always, a few bugs that probably never should have made it out here so quickly (one CW have admitted is being fixed in an ALREADY mentioned patch release coming this month!).
 
In fairness, most of us know companies have deadlines to meet.   I dislike that mentality, but it happens to everything and everyone.  
 
And this is a big overhaul (so big none of us know how to use it yet lol).  I don't know how many beta testers CW has, but I bet it's never enough.   So tag we're it now ;)
 
But, we here on the forum at least get a chance to shake it out and help them fix things (those of us who participate here, that is).  So to a certain degree, we should expect some problems during this initial release period.
 
That doesn't mean it's gonna be fun all the time.  But that's my take on it.
 
 

ba_midi

There are, as always, a few bugs that probably never should have made it out here so quickly (one CW have admitted is being fixed in an ALREADY mentioned patch release coming this month!).

I bet he's regretting mentioning the patch release. It's not sitting well with people.

dimelives1


 I'm just curious. Was this thing forced out somewhat prematurely?
 
Nope, someone just brought a case of Activia to the last office party...

gtgarner


It sits well with me.  Cakewalk can patch all they want.  Who cares?

People don't know how to use it yet?  Are you kidding?  This is the simplest verion yet. If anyone used 8.5.3, then this is butta.   

I know for sure that I am going to have used the 8.5 manual much more than I would an X1 manual. 
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I am always amazed at people who buy something and then in the same day complain about what they bought. 

Yes, I'll stand by my statement that (most) people don't know how to use it yet.  Especially if they were deep pre-X1 users with custom setups, custom keybindings, custom workflows, etc.
 
YOu find it easy to know so quickly, well, I congradulate you.  Good for you.  Really.
 
 

Well if they found a bug AFTER it went to print, and they are already working on it for the patch then that's a great thing. What more do you want? Do you want them to wait to release it after they find every bug? Then it would never get released.

These guys are on it in my opinion.

dimelives1


The out-of-nowhere announcement, the somewhat messy distribution, the lack of a reference guide with the program... I'm just wondering, Seth & co., HONESTLY, was the release of X1 rushed? Be it a response to the latest Pro Tools or WHATEVER. Some would argue so.

Not gonna slam you guys if it was. I'm just curious. Was this thing forced out somewhat prematurely? Or was this timeframe ALWAYS in mind for its release?

Rushed!  Are you kidding me?  It's two months late!  Besides, how can you accuse X1 of being rushed?  After all, they put up extra severs and bandwidth to accommodate all the downloads and make the download faster than ever.

Gee, the public is never satisfied.

Kind regards,


Living Room Rocker

I kid, I kid....

Brandon (or any CW'er) ...
 
Did the bakers remove the visual feedback for CapsLock, NumLock, etc?  I can't find them anywhere.
 
I really used that visual feedback, so I just would like to know if I should stop looking for that.
 
 

Bub

gtgarner


It sits well with me.  Cakewalk can patch all they want.  Who cares?

What I wonder about it is ... iirc there are normally 2 free patches then you have to purchase an upgrade. It's a little concerning if there's already a patch this early, that only leaves time for 1 more free patch. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, but iirc that's how it's worked in the past. Announcing a patch the day your product is released is a little weird don't ya think?

I personally think it was a slip of the tongue when it mentioned.

It was absolutely no slip of the tongue. It was deliberate information. We do not know how many patches there will be to X1 before the next major version. I would think people would be pleased they are getting a batch of fixes and improvements so quick.

I didn't know you guys were giving away free patches.

I want a free Sonar X1 patch for my denim jacket!

Are these in the Cakewalk store? No wonder it's so busy.

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk]

I would think people would be pleased they are getting a batch of fixes and improvements so quick.

It is great that there's a patch to address some things. I just personally wouldn't have mentioned it on the day of release.

But there does seem to be allot of little things that IMO should have been caught. My newest glitch is the "gain" knob which moves side to side when being moved (I mean the whole knob) Of course the PDF MANUAL has been mentioned quite a bit and I have to agree with ba_midi that it's a far cry from the help (though of course I'm using that) It's just allot of little naggy detail stuff that I'd think would have been nipped.

I just had some sticky-ness with the new EQ of the Pro Channel.  Clicked on the graph, and my mouse gets "stuck" there for awhile.  It lets go eventually.

Very weird and disconcerting.

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

Bub

gtgarner


It sits well with me.  Cakewalk can patch all they want.  Who cares?

What I wonder about it is ... iirc there are normally 2 free patches then you have to purchase an upgrade. It's a little concerning if there's already a patch this early, that only leaves time for 1 more free patch. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, but iirc that's how it's worked in the past. Announcing a patch the day your product is released is a little weird don't ya think?

I personally think it was a slip of the tongue when it mentioned.

It was absolutely no slip of the tongue. It was deliberate information. We do not know how many patches there will be to X1 before the next major version. I would think people would be pleased they are getting a batch of fixes and improvements so quick.

I haven't had time to read all threads on release day, and I will most likely wait for boxed meda to update and perhaps after the first patch - but from what I've seen, it's nice to see Brandon around here trying to be as helpful as possible especially when the environment is ripe for quick criticisms. 
 
Luckily I never had time to master 8.5 - to me, the X1 UI already looks like it will be easier to navigate. 
 
I was disappointed that the staff editor got no love, but I figure the UI improvement bodes well for the overall presence of Sonar in the marketplace.  (even the guys on KVR are impressed)
 
And the better X1 does, the more likely there will be resources for staff editor improvements.
 
Just my 2 cents.