DUMPING SONAR!!!

Well, it happened. The unthinkable. The horrible. The "It could never happen to me" happened.  All of my tracks, all of
them just disappeared from track view. That great searing lead line that I put down last Thursday, gone. That wonderful
syncopated synth line from last week, gone too. All my drum programming, the clever Bass line that added so much, all
gone. How could this happen to me. All the hours and hours tweaking and refining, all gone now. Sonar X2, where did we go wrong??
 
I know, I'll take complete responsibility for it.  It's all my fault. My fault for believing in you Sonar. My fault for thinking
Sonar could compete with all the other DAW's out there. Does this happen to Pro Tools users? Does this happen to
Cubase users? Something tells me I had better find out.
 
I promise myself I will never let this this happen to me again. I'm through with you my dear. I want a divorce. This is
unacceptable. This is where I draw the line. It is time for me to DUMP SONAR.  Your behavior Sonar is so unprofessional.
If you want to play in the big leagues Sonar, then you must perform worthy of that stature. You are a phony Sonar. You
deny yourself greatness by your results and your results stink. You have sunk so low that you have even lost me.
 
Dear Sonar, I can't change you, I can only change me. So that is where I stand. My last stand. Goodbye.

Bye

Of course you just need to take a deep breath and then load one of the many backups you made...you did make some didn't you?

The same thing happens in Cubase too (from experience), and I daresay most DAWs.

joep46


Well, it happened. The unthinkable. The horrible. The "It could never happen to me" happened.  All of my tracks, all of
them just disappeared from track view. That great searing lead line that I put down last Thursday, gone. That wonderful
syncopated synth line from last week, gone too. All my drum programming, the clever Bass line that added so much, all
gone. How could this happen to me. All the hours and hours tweaking and refining, all gone now. Sonar X2, where did we go wrong??
 
I know, I'll take complete responsibility for it.  It's all my fault. My fault for believing in you Sonar. My fault for thinking
Sonar could compete with all the other DAW's out there. Does this happen to Pro Tools users? Does this happen to
Cubase users? Something tells me I had better find out.
 
I promise myself I will never let this this happen to me again. I'm through with you my dear. I want a divorce. This is
unacceptable. This is where I draw the line. It is time for me to DUMP SONAR.  Your behavior Sonar is so unprofessional.
If you want to play in the big leagues Sonar, then you must perform worthy of that stature. You are a phony Sonar. You
deny yourself greatness by your results and your results stink. You have sunk so low that you have even lost me.
 
Dear Sonar, I can't change you, I can only change me. So that is where I stand. My last stand. Goodbye.

I'll bet that your audio hasn't gone anywhere. Look for it and if you need to import it back into a new project.

Hi Joep,
your statement is straight,and without any further info´s about what you tried to get your tracks back,system specs aso.
To read this  statement of you sounds like you are  searching the "mistake" everywhere, but not in your person and work.Iit´s not understandable at all.
Peace and farewell
Pragi

In track view type H that will bring up the track manager. Make sure all check boxes for tracks are checked. If that doesn't work then sorry... same thing happened to me with X1 a couple of months ago. Sonar crashed and all my audio files were deleted from the project audio folder. hasn't happened since, but still....

joep46


Well, it happened. The unthinkable. The horrible. The "It could never happen to me" happened.  All of my tracks, all of
them just disappeared from track view. That great searing lead line that I put down last Thursday, gone. That wonderful
syncopated synth line from last week, gone too. All my drum programming, the clever Bass line that added so much, all
gone. How could this happen to me. All the hours and hours tweaking and refining, all gone now. Sonar X2, where did we go wrong??
 
I know, I'll take complete responsibility for it.  It's all my fault. My fault for believing in you Sonar. My fault for thinking
Sonar could compete with all the other DAW's out there. Does this happen to Pro Tools users? Does this happen to
Cubase users? Something tells me I had better find out.
 
I promise myself I will never let this this happen to me again. I'm through with you my dear. I want a divorce. This is
unacceptable. This is where I draw the line. It is time for me to DUMP SONAR.  Your behavior Sonar is so unprofessional.
If you want to play in the big leagues Sonar, then you must perform worthy of that stature. You are a phony Sonar. You
deny yourself greatness by your results and your results stink. You have sunk so low that you have even lost me.
 
Dear Sonar, I can't change you, I can only change me. So that is where I stand. My last stand. Goodbye.
 
 
 

Goodbye troll

FOr whatever the worth, as disc space is so cheap these days, 

Every day, prior to beginning any DAW work, I manually copy my entire projects folder to another location on a different internal drive in my system.  I do this while I go make coffee or eat something.  I keep 1 prior version - so on my system, I carry the active projects folder, and essentially 2 copies of yesterday's projects folder.

I also have a 2 Terabyte external USB 3.0 drive, and that is set to backup automatically every Sunday evening, during football games.

I often also have several active collaborative projects uploaded to one of my web sites.  I use those for shooting projects around the universe to other muscians.  I just set up FTP users and folders for whomever I am dealing with, so a lot of things are there too.

I sleep REALLY well at night.

Bob Bone

well the forum wouldnt be the forum without one post like this a week lol, or even daily http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aht9hcDFyVw

Seems legit.

This is REALLY immature of me, but here goes: 

We got it all wrong.  Joe is on to something here.

If we wait until AFTER we lose our data, THEN do a backup, it will run MUCH faster.

He found yet ANOTHER performance upgrade in X2.

OK - got that out of my system - Joe, it's obviously too late now, but wherever you go, I DO hope you learn from it.

MANY of us have likely lost data that we just didn't seem to take time backup.  I lost a brand new solid-state drive (512GB) and it took me more than a MONTH to reconstruct everything.  (then again, I DID have some backups - dang it - thought that was out of my system, but I guess even my attitude gets backed up).

Reality is regrettably harsh, 

Bob Bone

Its probably not gone. Also, did you have autosave turned on? If not, blame yourself. 

Auto save and every night I do work (and even when I take a break during the day) by entire projects drive is synced to my Buffalo Terra Station which is 2TB (4TB Raid 1). I do not need to do a full backup as my sync mechanism simply handles the deltas; adds new files to the backup drive and deletes removed files from the backup based on the current source drive contents.

I have (based on one or two bad experiences) have gotten into the habit of ONLY cleaning the audio folder of a specific project after the final mix is completed.

A couple of months ago i was doing a project just playing with loops.  sonar crashed and ALL the audio disappeared from the project audio folder.  tried 2 file recovery programs to no avail - no traces found of them even with a surface scan.  that was weird.
  http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?&m=2552105&mpage=1

I don't use auto save. I just make sure if I've done something worth keeping I save. If I've reached a critical stage in the project like a specific track (drums tracked, guits tracked, etc) is complete or mixed or whatever I'll do a save as. I end up with a HUGE list of project versions but I can always delete them later. I've never liked auto save type stuff because I may not necessarily want to go back to the point the computer decides to save at.