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Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
I've been emailed a half-price offer for Izotope's Alloy 2. I already have Ozone 5 which is great so do I need Alloy 2 as well is the question. Am I missing something - I always assumed Alloy 2 was just 'Ozone Lite'?
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/15 06:38:36
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I would like to get the half price deal. Where did you get it?
My take is Alloy 2 is a channel insert with all the bells and whitles of an in series chein of compenents. Ozone is less fascile, does most of the same things, but the surface is for surgical mastering; alloy for surgical channel. The free 30 day Groove 3 turtorials describes them both in detail and can help you decide.
Please send the link to the 50% discount for Alloy 2.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/15 06:53:08
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/15 08:53:49
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Hmm, interesting - I have Ozone and was considering Alloy. As I understand it, Ozone is for mastering a stero master, and Alloy is for each individual channel, for mixing.
The ad says "crossgrade version of Alloy 2" --- its not quite clear, is that some kind of "lite" version of Alloy, or the full version? If its full version, its a good deal ...
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/15 09:25:05
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I used to think about getting Alloy, but then bought PSP MixPack due to the reviews that seemed to be a little in favour of PSP. I have Ozone as well.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/15 10:55:28
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This is from the help guys at Time+Space.
"They are both open to be used on multiple channels. Traditionally Ozone is used as a mastering software and Alloy as Mixing software."
He said the offer is available for the USA directly from Izotope.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/15 22:59:43
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I use Alloy 2, it's lighter on the system and meant to be used as a channel insert. Though it as similar functions it is a bit of a different critter. The Transient Shaper is worth the price of admission by its self. MOAW
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/15 23:36:17
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I use Alloy2, worth every penny. It is channel insert with a very flexible EQ, gate and compressor, limiter and several other effects unit. I like it's preset system for almost every instrument and sound. best of all it speed up my work flow and sound great.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/16 00:19:22
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I had both and damn it i paid for both of them and regret it, why? Because after extensive testing and verification Alloy 2 is identical to Ozone in its results, it uses 'exactly' the same algorithms as Ozone 5. The difference with Ozone 5 is that it offers a reverb plus a second eq, but why the hell someone would need a reverb and a second eq strapped across the mastering stereo-bus is beyond me. I have inserted both Alloy 2 and Ozone into the mastering-chain and done the A/B thing extensively using the modules that they both share (eq, exciter, compression, limiter) and set them both to the same settings and the result is literally identical. So just to make sure i spoke to TJ at Izotope and he confirmed for me that they do indeed share the same algorithms. I use Alloy 2 for my mastering now and sold my ozone license, because Alloy 2 covers both my mastering and channel strip duties, excellent bang for the buck. Alloy 2 can be used as a stereo processor or a mono processor and automatically knows when the channel is stereo or mono and switches itself to either automatically. Other than that, what it does have that Ozone doesn't have is a De-esser and a transient designer, all other things being equal to Ozone minus the superfluous second eq and reverb. The EQ plus the eq options, and the compression plus the compression options, and the exciter plus the exciter options, plus the limiter and the overall metering are all exactly the same identical algorithms as ozone 5, so Alloy 2 is much better value than Ozone, it can be used both as a top-notch channel strip but also as a full blown fully competent mastering processor and is something like half the price of ozone. In fact, i am gonna message Izotope and tell them that if they completely redesign Ozone with brand new high-end algorithms different to Alloy 2, then i will certainly buy it without hesitation, but as things stand now with them both sharing the same algorithms it is a total waste of money to buy both. PS: As you would have probably discovered, Izotopes Limiter-module in both products is absolutely useless and utterly wrecks the mix, it is not transparent at all, thus why i have to use a third-party transparent Limiter. I have contacted Izotope several times in the past twelve months about their limiter and thus-far they have done nothing about it. Anyone looking for an alternative to Izotope's offerings might like to visit BlueCat audio, they have some extremely high-quality and capable mastering plugins and channel plugins, and after i suggested to them that they should combine some of their mastering plugins into an all-in-one package like Izotope they liked the idea and told me they are now working on it. Download the demos, they are fantastic, better even than T-Racks.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/16 02:24:26
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Godparticle, did you not see any (meaningful) difference in CPU/RAM consumption? According to what I've read, and as mentioned here already, Alloy, being considerably lighter on resources, is made for per track use, whereas Ozone is a mastering VST.
As far as the advertising goes, that is the only clear difference between those two (???), but if the load is much lighter, how can the algorithms be the same?
I've read so many threads about how Ozone jams the PC when used on tracks. I don't know about Alloy 2, but
the reviews I've read about Alloy 1, gave the impression there's a clear difference between Ozone and Alloy, and the critics were not overly impressed by Alloy, even though the reviews were quite positive. No doubt the price/quality ratio of Alloy is excellent.
I can not agree with you about Ozones limiter, though.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/16 02:43:16
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I like the visual feedback that Alloy provides, not to mix with my eyes but rather because it's a great way to see the effect as a learning tool and as an added check to what your ears are telling you. At some point in my mixes I usually close my eyes or go to another part of the room and just listen, but it can help jumpstart the process sometimes to see and listen as you experiment. This video provides a good overview on using Alloy on drums -- take note of the "gain trace view" around 2:20 in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NhMMVcJaAo
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godparticle
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/16 03:14:06
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Kalle, Alloy 1 was not using the same algorithms as Ozone 5, but the Alloy 2 update was a total overhaul and incorporated the Ozone 5 algorithms. Like i said, i confirmed it with TJ at Izotope 'after' i did the A/B tests, and he confirmed what my ears were hearing, identical! From what i remember the cpu usage was the same. You don't agree about the limiter. It's one of the worst limiters i've ever heard as far as transparency is concerned, but maybe if you like your music being squeezed, then yeah, you would probably like it. As far as Alloy version 1 I actually liked it a lot, it had a certain no nonsense kick-ass classiness about it, but at the end of the day Alloy 2 is simply a slick beast. On the Izotope webpage for Alloy 2, Izotope even states...
"(Yes!You can have "that Ozone sound" on every element of your mix)" [Unquote]
Also Kalle, Ozone 5 is only $49 more than Alloy 2, so it would make sense that they are using the same algorithms. For the extra $49 you pay for ozone 5, they give you the secondary post-EQ, plus Reverb, plus dithering, plus some options to pick a different algorithm for the limiter. I never use dithering, and the other extra features are a waste of time to me, so Alloy 2 gets my money, and certainly gets the job done.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/16 06:08:24
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Got an email myself now from Izotope - with this same offer. What works out at 74 EUR, for Alloy 2, it seems like a great deal.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/16 07:07:01
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Works out at about £68. - I have Ozone 5 but was underwhelmed with the trial of Nectar...so I'm unsure...though the offer runs through until 1/2/2013, so there's time for a bit of a read-up yet.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/16 20:14:05
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I have since Ozone 4 and alloy 1. I now have ozone 5 and Alloy 2. They are a great combo. Alloy2 I use for tracks mostly-Ozone for busses .
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/16 20:17:41
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Alloy 2 DEFINITELY uses less CPU-and the limiter is fine and they are NOT the same-similar yes-but not the same
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/16 20:46:26
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Seems that stratman70 sets-out to contradict everything i say as evidenced from other comments he's made in other threads i've started.
I'm glad you know more than TJ from Izotopte startman70, i'll come to you for my info from now on.
Guys, the facts are that the EQ, the Exciter, the Multiband Compressor, and the Limiter in both Ozone and Alloy 2 use 'identical' algorithms. If anyone prefers to have a reverb and a second eq plus dithering then buy Ozone, but if you would prefer a de-esser and a transient-shaper then buy Alloy 2, because all the other features and algorithms are the same. Simple!
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/16 22:46:33
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godparticle
Seems that stratman70 sets-out to contradict everything I say as evidenced from other comments he's made in other threads i've started.
I'm glad you know more than TJ from Izotopte startman70, i'll come to you for my info from now on.
Guys, the facts are that the EQ, the Exciter, the Multiband Compressor, and the Limiter in both Ozone and Alloy 2 use 'identical' algorithms. If anyone prefers to have a reverb and a second eq plus dithering then buy Ozone, but if you would prefer a de-esser and a transient-shaper then buy Alloy 2, because all the other features and algorithms are the same. Simple!
Well, not just me, but that's another story. The Higg Laptop- no doubt. You do know the history of your user name I assume. Anyway I use them both and get different results depending on my needs. I have asked TJ to confirm his conversation with you so I can here it from him.-He always gets back to me rather quickly So I am sure he'll get back to me soon. But, Just the fact that Alloy 2 is less cpu intensive appeals to me so I can us it on tracks. I am only stating my eperience while you are quoting the programmer. So my experience is different than yours.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 00:14:52
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Oh really stratman70, and exactly what is the history of my username?? I want to know, you tell me cowboy. Whatever the hell your on about.
I actually don't think you own either of these two products, cause if you did, you wouldn't be telling me your getting different results.
I have them both here and have done a one hour session with them before replying to you. I had both strapped into the master-bus and used the same modules 'with the same settings' and what was the results? IDENTICAL! Exactly as TJ confirmed to me several months ago.
And i don't know what computer your using but when i switch on either of theses two products they use the same amount of CPU.
Can you read English matey?? My previous reply quoted their website, which was informing about Alloy 2 ON THE ALLOY 2 WEBPAGE!...so here is that quote again from Izotopes website on the Alloy 2 page...(Yes! You can have "that Ozone sound" on every element of your mix)
I am a Beta tester for Izotope so maybe TJ isn't gonna admit anything to you about their algorithms.
And i would appreciate it if you would stop following me around this forum and trying to contradict everything i say.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 00:20:00
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god particle- did the waves null then.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 00:38:40
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One of the reasons I don't frequent this forum like I used to is exactly because of the attitude shown by some posters as typified by this thread.
I have Ozone 5 Adv and Alloy 2.
I make use of all iZotopes products and have since they began. It's one of those very clever companies that I like to fully support like Cakewalk among a few others.
While Ozone and Alloy obviously share similar code and algorithms, my experience has been that they are not the same product but complement one another.
Ozone for Mastering.
I use Alloy for channels strips and busses as its a lot lighter on CPU use. and of course Ozone Advanced has significantly more features. If I didn't have or couldn't have another compressor I'd be more than happy to use Ozone's and do quite often.
Presets are a place to start but not what I rely on for my sound.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 02:03:30
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Some of the other differences between Alloy and Ozone are certain features and functions which might be exclusive to one or the other. I'm not at my DAW right now but I'm thinking of things like Sidechaining (Alloy) and Mid-Side processing (Ozone) which can completely transform the sound and FX processing and would therefore make each tool useful in its own right.
I don't have Ozone Advanced so I may be talking out of turn here as to what it offers, but that's as far as I can recall. Definitely there are different presets for each product which tend to be more in the context of track FX (Alloy) and mastering (Ozone). Of course there is a lot of overlap in the basic modules and the essential functions for these, and some of the other specific features may not be of much interest.
To help you decide, if you have Sonar X2 and are eligible for the monthly content club offer to watch any Groove3 video for free, then there are some excellent tutorials on both Ozone and Alloy which can really help explain some of their respective features and uses. Whenever I think I know a product I find these videos always highlight something new to me that helps me to view the functions in a new light and breathes new life into my approach.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 04:44:39
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Ummm, backwards, i don't get what your saying man, sarcasm? Whatever, it doesn't matter. VariousArtist, you are right, i forgot to mention the mid-side processing available in Ozone, and to some people that will be a key difference; and if someone knows what they're doing i would say that mid-side processing would be a must have; on the other hand, when i switch-on mid-side processing it completely skews the mix and leaves me bedazzled as to what the hell it's doing or how i might adjust the settings to do anything worthwhile with it, so i never use it. I certainly don't ever remember the most famous hardware bus- compressors ever having mid-side processing. But i would suppose that if a veteran or real-pro got hold of mid-side processing then probably they could work some magic with it. But really, for 90% of people i would say that Alloy 2's side-chaining is more preferable than having mid-side. One other thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Alloy 2 has 'Vintage-Bell' filters as an option in the EQ section in addition to the standard Bell EQ in Ozone. Plus Alloy 2 offers the all famous Bandaxall 'Treble or Bass' EQs which Ozone doesn't. Plus the High&Low-pass EQ filters in Alloy 2 offer a 'Sharp' option in addition to the other two options in Ozone, plus Alloy 2 also offers a 'Resonant' option in the High&Low-shelf EQ in addition to the standard fare in Ozone. Also if you think about it, Alloy two can be used as a totally high-end voice-channel strip in its own right with it's additional De-esser and Transient-shaper when used in combination with the other modules. And another thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Alloy 2 allows parallel processing (To achieve the famous 'New-York Compression' technique) in the Dynamics section, and it has a separate module-button to access this ability; two separate lots of compression in tandem certainly seem more handier and more practical to me than mid-side processing. Also, another plus for Alloy 2, the exciter module allows the user to mix&match for any combination of Tube,Tape,Transistor and Retro emulations and blend between them or go exclusive, but Ozone only allows the user to pick one emulation and that's it. But even if the user chooses to pick only one emulation in Alloy 2, they can alter which parts of the harmonics for that emulation are added; Ozone does not allow that, and from experience the ability to do such a thing is priceless compared to the 'single emulation only' Ozone approach, because the perfect harmonic structure can be attained for more suitable results in the final master, and i would go so far as to say that it can actually make-or-break the finished mix. Alloy 2's benefits. -Full-blown competent mastering (with identical results to Ozone 5) -Dedicated High-end vocal-channel -Professional channel-strip tools for tracking Ozone 5's benefits. -Full-blown competent mastering And Alloy 2 is $49 cheaper than Ozone 5, plus has a 'zero-latency' option. Now for someone on a budget, knowing what i've just said, what do you think they are more likely to buy?
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 07:00:52
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@ godparticle. What Backwards was asking is if you did a null test?
Export your project with alloy, and then with ozone, and load the two wavs back into a project. Invert the phase of one of the tracks.
If they are identical they will cancel each other out and you will hear nothing. If you do hear something, it is the "difference" between the two tracks. I have simplified this a bit.
It is a commonly used trick/experiment, and can be enlightening. Google "Null Test".
I'd be very interested in your findings.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 11:07:39
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godparticle
Oh really stratman70, and exactly what is the history of my username?? I want to know, you tell me cowboy. Whatever the hell your on about.
I actually don't think you own either of these two products, cause if you did, you wouldn't be telling me your getting different results.
I have them both here and have done a one hour session with them before replying to you. I had both strapped into the master-bus and used the same modules 'with the same settings' and what was the results? IDENTICAL! Exactly as TJ confirmed to me several months ago.
And i don't know what computer your using but when i switch on either of theses two products they use the same amount of CPU.
Can you read English matey?? My previous reply quoted their website, which was informing about Alloy 2 ON THE ALLOY 2 WEBPAGE!...so here is that quote again from Izotopes website on the Alloy 2 page...(Yes! You can have "that Ozone sound" on every element of your mix)
I am a Beta tester for Izotope so maybe TJ isn't gonna admit anything to you about their algorithms.
And i would appreciate it if you would stop following me around this forum and trying to contradict everything i say.
I have had it with you-with the magical laptop. You are now getting nasty-All 24 posts you have Of course I own them-now I'm a liar? I use them and I get the results I stated. Following you around. I posted in your mythical super charged realtek powered laptop thread where EVERYONE saw thru you. Then I saw this thread where once again you are spouting misinformation . Your a bete tester for TJ? Well, what a great human being you are-you beta test for the guy and then come here andtell folks not to waste their $$$ buying both???? Wow-that speaks volumes. The scientist who "discovered or uncovered" the nicknamed God particle was Higg-The real name of the elusive beginning of it all particle-reaction. The Higg particle/. It was nicknamed the godparticle by those "outside" the scientific family" as the God Particle becuase it is possibly the beginning of everything-before electrons, neutrons, etc.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 14:22:26
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The scientist who "discovered or uncovered" the nicknamed God particle was Higg-The real name of the elusive beginning of it all particle-reaction. The Higg particle/. It was nicknamed the godparticle by those "outside" the scientific family" as the God Particle becuase it is possibly the beginning of everything-before electrons, neutrons, etc. All one has to do is watch a few episodes of The Big Bang Theory and it all becomes clear... ;-) I've also been eyeing up the Alloy deal. I currently have Ozone 3, so I'm a bit behind the curve.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 18:26:00
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Hello All, I know I have a tendency to get in a debate :-) so to speak. But I am annoyed by some folks who come in here making all kind of weird claims. Especially when they have 20 posts and know it all. A quote I received today from TJ, Izotope honcho and cheif programmer. I filled him in about the claims made here by one particle Hopefully this will set the record straight- The email unedited..................... Hello Frank, Thanks for letting us know. While there may be a few basic elements (Some EQ curves and the default compressor implementation for example) that are shared between Ozone 5 and Alloy 2, there are quite a few features that are unique to each plug-in. Please also note that Alloy 2 is specifically also optimized for Low-Latency, Low-CPU, and Low-Memory usage, which is also a large difference from Ozone 5, which requires more resources at the benefit of higher quality processing in certain modules. Which features specifically is this referencing? Please let me know if you have any further questions. Sincerely, TJ iZotope, Inc. http://www.izotope.com/%3C/a%3E%3C/font%3E
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 18:35:08
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Hey Stratman;
I too sent an email to TJ which supports both our positions, Lets hope it clears up the mis-quotes and quotes out of context that our newer member has thrown around.
My question/s to TJ:
"there's a bit if a debate going on over in the SONAR forum here:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2757280
regarding the subject of similarities between Alloy 2 and Ozone with one contributor claiming to have been told by TJ that Alloy 2 and Ozone 5 share the same algorithms and therefor must sound the same. He cites his own experience as proving that there is no difference in the 2. If that is the case then what is the significance of that point?
I on the other hand find the 2 products similar but providing different sounds and differing CPU loads with Alloy being less CPU intensive on the same application.
what say you. Thanks for any comments
Michael Vogel"
TJ's reply:
"While there are some shared underlying structures between Alloy 2 and Ozone 5, there are quite a few differences in the implementations and with regards to a few other features that are unique to each plug-in.
The main important larger difference is that Alloy 2 is specifically optimized for low-latency and low-CPU usage, and Ozone 5 is designed to utilize more resources in order to achieve higher quality processing. As such there may be differences in implementations of specific features that may seem similar, in order to achieve this performance difference.
There are also quite a few other differences as Alloy 2 has a multi-band transient shaper, dual multi-band compressor modules, additional EQ curves, additional exciter blending options, etc.
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Sincerely,
TJ"
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/17 19:09:43
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I don't want to get involved with this thread but I have for years promoted Ozone on the Sonar forums.
I agree 100% with both Stratman and Mike. The other opinion being offered has to be viewed as inaccurate and misleading.
To answer the OP. Ozone to me is a must have. Alloy is one of many channel strips. I don't see a need for me to have Alloy. You can of course decide for yourself. There is no wrong decision possible.
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Re:Anyone use Alloy 2 as well as Ozone?
2013/01/18 03:04:40
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.... NOTE : this price does NOT include VAT .... which is then added ! ULTRABRA
Got an email myself now from Izotope - with this same offer. What works out at 74 EUR, for Alloy 2, it seems like a great deal.
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