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Freddie H

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Freddie H

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Freddie H


Optic cables! Light, no need of gold cables there either, right. 

I still use Adat-Tos-link-cables in good quality in gold, anyway! Funny it does sounds better too, because I did a blind test.

http://www.profigold.co.uk/en/home/


--->adat 1-2, 3-4 gold; 5-6, 7-8 standard tos link cables from RME! You did hear different! And swith around again so 1-2,  3-4 *standard cable and 5-6, 7-8 gold! Same again i heard the different!

Other people in the studio heard the dfiffernt too even if they didn't knew what was what...




Regards
Freddie

Your not serious are you?
If so please do this forum/new members/& new musicians a favor & stop posting false information.

You are 100 % right, it can't and it shouldn't be any differnet, impossible I know...
I don't know if it just my TOS cables but it is? What can I say?
psychologic effect?    

Regards
Freddie

Give your belief in "audio magic" a reality check & record the outputs of both adat ports phase cancel the tracks.

Yes, my friend and I bet its the same sound = no sound!


Best Regards
Freddie

So wait a minute, Your saying you know it completely cancels & still think the profigold cables sound better?

dmmi


I guess computers don't speak in 0's and 1's anymore.....

I will continue to carry this "BS" as truth....and I don't want to argue anymore.

I clearly cannot be convinced otherwise, neither can you guys.....so 

Freddie likes his sound.....let him have his sound.

info@tomflair.com


btw. ...freddie - how can you state that rme are some of the best converters in the world????  ahhrgghhh !!!
rme are just entry level in pro field ;-)

thanks john that you didnt even mention me - since i started the disussion about freddies imaginary soundleap and i actually (on a lower technical level) was exactly exposing what those other guys you mentioned did... and i thought i also was one of those froends of yours here ;-) c´mooon

John

thanks john that you didnt even mention me - since i started the disussion about freddies imaginary soundleap and i actually (on a lower technical level) was exactly exposing what those other guys you mentioned did... and i thought i also was one of those froends of yours here ;-) c´mooon

Sorry its a long thread and I knew I would alienate some one here. I consider most everyone on this thread a friend.

BTW I find your posts darn good.  Heck, I knew I would get in trouble no matter what I said. I tried to be very short but you see how well that went.

info@tomflair.com

Freddie H

info@tomflair.com


btw. ...freddie - how can you state that rme are some of the best converters in the world????  ahhrgghhh !!!
rme are just entry level in pro field ;-)

 
RME have won a lot of awards of there converters, my friend!
Its just the way it is.. they are great  at--> 119db SNR... Have you tried them or listen on them?
 
Apogee, RME, Cirrus logic and Lynx that's it! Have I missed something?   
 
Regards
Freddie
 

freddie - i own (or owned) a rme digi 8 pad, a hammerfall 9632, a hammerfall hdsp 9632, a hammerfall 9652 hdsp, ánd in the second studio in vienna we have a ff800 + a adi8 pro
...so i "think" i can have an opinion about rme ;-)
btw. i also own a konnekt 48 from tc electronics - and PURELY SUBJECTIVELY i thinjk that the konnekt sounds more pleasant than all the rme stuff i ever heard ...
 
yet rme wins Hands down in matters of support, driver stability, performance, and building quality - so especially this facts makes rme "professional" - even the chief of rme himsels says that its futile to discuss about "converter sound" - since probably all convertes available today (except for really chep stuff) give professionally usable results - so its the features beside the (possibly)  "non existing sound" of a unit that makes it a great piece of hardware
 
cheers

Freddie H

info@tomflair.com


btw. ...freddie - how can you state that rme are some of the best converters in the world????  ahhrgghhh !!!
rme are just entry level in pro field ;-)

 
RME have won a lot of awards of there converters, my friend!
Its just the way it is.. they are great  at--> 119db SNR... Have you tried them or listen on them?
 
Apogee, RME, Cirrus logic and Lynx that's it! Have I missed something?   
 
Regards
Freddie
 
 
considering the pricerange there are so many concerters that "should" be better (and im not saying that this is my opinion but price is often an index for quality ;-)
 
convertesr from:
 
mytek, lavry, benchmark, weiss, crane song, burl audio, jcf, those convertes in the radar systems hdd recorder, prism, lucid, and a few others i just cant remember ---
 
btw...(and i have posted this already some times befor in other threads) most convereters even share the same texasinstruments chip for the conversion which costs about 25 dollars (yes - also some of the multi-thousand dollar units...)
almost no firm today makes custom converter chips - so the biggest difference in sound just results from the analog layout of those convereters and especially alo their powersupply (noisssssse)
there was once a test on gearslutz: behringer ada8000 vs. apogee ad 16 (the expensive one) and funny enough even there a lot of people couldnt guess whisch was the better one - if you consider the different prices this is extremely amusing ...
nevertheless some expensive converters can be "better" feature wise since they might incorporate very clean (or not) micpres with hell of headroom or whatever -- in the end it has to work and its a question of style: some want ultraneutral stuff like massenpurg pres throug a weiss converter - orthers pay for a distorted (analog coloration) in a universal audio converter - a mad world ;-)

Jose7822


I agree with John, and know that Freddie is actually a well intended person.  Yes, he's sometimes wrong and exaggerates things a little (notably with big, bold phrases :-P).  But he does so because he's passionate about what he does, and not because he means wrong.  We can all argue about a subject without being offensive, I think.  Sometimes I am guilty of this, so I should listen to myself :-)


@ InfoTom,

I am very pleasantly surprised on how much you actually know Tom.  It seems like you're a new person, good for you!

Hope you're doing well.


Take care!
 
 
hi jose - nice to hear from you :-) especially i appreciate this sort of compliment mixed with an insult - hehehe - no - i know what you mean - i am trying to be less "cocky" lately - i think we all should get along well here - except for some bold comments that i make to provoke cj ( but he doesnt react anymore - taking my fun away ;-)
 
best regards
 
 

info@tomflair.com


btw. probably i am to stupid to check this new "quote" thing here - but why the heck some times when i quote - my own text is like the quoted one???
i am getting old i guess ...

kicksville

 And to reinforce what others have been trying to tell you, the fact is, our ears lie to us. All the time. We just fool ourselves into believing what they tell us. 

Dude

MatsonMusicBox

dmmi


It is impossible to convert analog to digital smooth.

sorry - again you are incorrect because you don't understand the math/physics. Whatever difference there is would be because of the actual electronic components, filters, jitter, etc. etc. etc. and NOTHING to do with the principle or sample rate.

Why all this theory? It is possible that his converters will behave differently at different sample rates. And remember that there is both AD and DA conversion happening, so as pointed out, filters (anti-aliasing filter) and jitter has an effect.
 
Remember, Freddie said that it sounded better on HIS system (so both AD and DA conversion took place). If transfered (digitally) there might not be any significant difference.
 
Dude