Heh... thanks, twaddle. I got it. Too slow typing. lol

The license manager is now saying the status of that S/N is "Ok". I click the "Kit" menu in BFD and there is my Rock Legends kit. Awesome. Now to play around with it. I'll see you guys in a bit. Cheers!

Okay. This kit sounds WAY better. It's not exactly what I want but it will certainly tide me over until I can afford the Andy John's pack. Now again that is just personal taste. This kit will be perfect for pretty much most people and I'm positive I'll be able to tweak it to do everything I need anyway. For me though I'm looking for something ultra tight, clean and punchy which is why I keep prattling on about that Andy John stuff. This Rock Legends kit is more smooth and vintage sounding and I will be able to use even the raw samples as they will be nice for quite a bit but as an old cheese head rocker (a dying breed... I know) it's just slightly off for my needs but considering all the options in BFD I'd bet I can get some more thwack out of it. BTW I just checked out the "Grooves" button in BFD and there are tons of beats that I actually might be able to use. That has always been a big problem for me in regards to grooves especially in Session Drummer. They were just... not right. This is a massive list and I literally poked around with it for one minute and found a ton of usable stuff. Cool cool and more cool. This is pretty much one of the best deals I have ever gotten in regards to audio production purchases. If I haven't convinced you already DOOO IIIIT!!! It's like the cost of two cases of crappy beer or dinner at a semi decent restaurant. In fact I'm gonna harass all my real life buddies into buying it and I NEVER do that. Cheers.

EDIT: This post was essentially sheer exuberance and I am removing it because I think the people that needed to see it saw it. The gist was I am extremely happy with this purchase and it has finally rounded out my ability to create music again after a very long journey. Buy this software if you can. You will not be disappointed. Thanks again Rail for all your help and stevec who pointed out this deal in the first place and all the awesome folks here on the forum who advised me to look at the BFD brand as well as everyone else on the forum. You all rock. Cheers.

This Rock Legends kit is actually gonna work out great for a lot of stuff. Loving it more and more as I play around with it. Very honest and pure sounding. Beautiful.

Ya bro... this is gonna be killer. I just went through some more of the genre grooves and it's all usable. Now I just gotta figure out how to get this into recorded format or send the pieces to PRV. Had to deal with some other stuff tonight though. I'll keep updating as I move along. Hey... I might even get to toss something down in the Songs forum soon instead of just constantly running my mouth up here. Wouldn't that be sumthin'? ;-)

Just catching up here. Actually, I'm quite jealous, because shortly after getting a load of drum stuff, with respect to both SessionDrummer and BFD Eco, I then got a load more synth stuff and my experimentation with my new drums came to a halt. I need to remedy that situation somehow.

I am a little bit like a startled squirrel, not knowing where to jump next, having been confronted by a big hairy black bear!

Billy Cobham's Spectrum

 
Completely off-topic: I still have that on vinyl! 
 
OK, as you were... 
 

So do I! Not only is it a kickass recording but some of Tommy Bolin's BEST guitar playing for sure...

 
Completely agree on both accounts!    I haven't listened to that album in years, so I really need to burn it to CD.  
 
BTW... this is actually sort of on topic since Tommy Bolin played with Billy Cobham, Billy Cobham is a drummer, and BFD Eco is a drum synth.    Now, Beepster, your mission is to program a drum track in the style of Billy Cobham using BFD eco.    
 

Thanks for the links Steve :^)

Okay... spent the past few hours reading and absorbing the manual. Sorry for the formatting and I'll try to insert breaks on this post later but this is relevent to anyone trying to load BFD Eco into Sonar...

Using BFD Eco as a VST plugin in Sonar Launching BFD Eco 1. With a project open, use the Insert menu to insert BFD Eco as a soft synth: Insert • Soft Synths • [VST plugins folder name] • BFD Eco 2. In the synth properties dialog box that appears, you can choose to set up BFD Eco’s additional outputs in the Sonar mixer. Unfortunately, this dialog box does not include an option to create all the required stereo and mono outputs, so it is recommended to choose ‘All Synth Audio Outputs: Stereo’, and afterwards manually change the stereo channels created for BFD Eco’s mono 1-16 outputs to mono channels. If you do not know how to do this, please consult your Sonar documentation or contact Cakewalk support. By default, all channels in BFD Eco are routed to the Master channel in the BFD Eco mixer, which is hard-wired to the first stereo output (output 1-2). In order to separate channels into discrete outputs, you must first route the relevant channels to the desired BFD Eco outputs in the BFD Eco mixer. If you need to use BFD Eco’s MIDI Out function, remember to check the ‘Enable MIDI Out’ checkbox in the synth properties dialog. 3. If the ‘MIDI Source’ checkbox was not left checked in the dialog box, you need to create a MIDI track and route its output to BFD Eco. If you encounter any problems performing the steps above, please consult your host’s documentation or contact the manufacturer’s tech support channels – BFD Eco operates in the same way as any other multiple-output instrument plugin. Recording BFD Eco’s output as audio To do this you either need to use Sonar’s mixdown functions – make sure you enable the Offline button before performing any offline or non-realtime export. It is also recommended to disable the ‘Use Fast Bounce’ setting in Sonar’s preferences. Alternatively, you can use BFD Eco’s audio export feature when exporting Grooves.

BTW I'll be tossing the link to the manual and probably that little blurb into the first post of this thread as well as directing people to Rail's posts to save any random googlers and forum users some time. I however cannot stare at this computer screen for much longer so that will have to wait for another day. Cheers.

I might be wrong but I'm fairly sure the "humanise" function will only work on the grooves that are being played internally.
Meaning, midi that is created in your sequencer or dragged from Eco into a midi track can no longer be humanised.

What humanising basically does is to place certain notes slightly behind or ahead of it's correct grid placement.
Obviously it can't to that with midi that is being fed in to it.  Unlike BFD2, BFD Eco doesn't allow you to import standard midi files so you can't humanise midi files created elsewhere by loading

them in to Eco.
Steve

Just bumping this to the top because the Eco/Rock Legends deal is almost over (Aug 31). Also I wanted to review some of my notes and the advice others have given here. I just installed the Zildjian Gen 16 Z-Pack which is also on special over at AudioMidi and it sounds great. Cheers.

Hey MCC thanks for that link! I just watched the video and am glad I did. I haven't explored SD3 or the Andy Johns kit I bought, nor installed the BFD ECO with Platinum Sample yet. Still for $20 it seems like a cheap way to try that path, too. Thanks again Michael