Mooch4056
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire problems
2007/08/22 08:07:58
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NEVERMIND........ I have 12 inputs.....its confusing as all hell how they have it set up and what I have to select on the asio panel -- but I tested and re-tested...and there are indeed 12 separate channels capable of tracking and recording 12 seperate tracks at the same time. Well it was a pain in the aZZ, but after messin with it on and off for 4 months and with the new driver update ...it does seem to do what it is suppose to do...... if any of you are having problems figuring out what mics line up with what inputs to get you the 12 seprate channels Pm me or catch me through email...basically the first four channels can not be broken up into left and right seprate TRACKS....you know... the good the ones with the power amps....could only be used for stereo input ...or mono.... THE LEFT AND RIGHT CHANELS COULD NOT BE INSERTED INTO ONE TRACK SEPERATE....BASIC OUTLINE BELOW channels 4-8 could be used for either or and broken up into each left and right input into its own track for a total of 8 inputs there..... ***************************************************************************************************** channels 1-4 = tracks 1-4 -- trying to break up the left and right inputs only pans things on the track left or right channels 5-8...WILL ALLOW YOU TO break up the left and right inputs into seprate tracks for your other 8 tracks.... but you don't get the built in pre- amps.... if that doesnt make sense and you own one of these ...contact me..... and the way they have it laid out on the input menu is just hard on the eyes and confusing..... (shakes head) but hey -- IT FINALLY WORKS RIGHT!
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bvideo
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/08/22 10:28:51
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Most likely the 7 channels are stereo channels, six for the inputs and one for the mix, and then one for the output. You could confirm this in Sonar when you assign inputs to a track - see what choices you get. It should give you 21 choices for input, left, right, and stereo for 6 inputs and the main mix. Hey, too bad a firmware update doesn't give knobs! Bill B.
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/10/26 06:11:15
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Hey everyone, new here>>> but not to the MM16 problems. But it can work great when it does!!! First off: Does anyone have the original drivers from when the units first came out that they could email me? I sent a pc in for repair and left the disk in <damnit, of course not getting it back...> The drivers from 2005 were the only ones I've ever gotten to work. 2. the fast weird warped playback issues, Ive only recently encountered them when using more than 4 tracks, I increased latency and also went back to using my pc's soundcard out for monitoring instead of the mm16 for monitoring (I believe that had more to do with it). I have not had a problem with it since and have gone as far as 12 tracks of playback all edited heavily with effects. 3. I updated to the latest driver package and behold!!! I am missing all the drivers, just have a controll panel. I have encountered this many times before and this time I have not found a workaround. I have followed all the steps to the letter, and my system is up to date. I have never got the downloaded drivers to ever work and have only been able to have a stable system off the cd. ___ Contacted alesis>>> DO they even use their own product??? And apparently according to them , their system is compatible with everything under the sun and they never have problems. Whatever. Thank all of you for posting your thoughts on getting the MM to work. When it works , it works great!!! My setup: Laptop XP home Sp2/dot net 1.1 Amd ath 64 2.8 ghz. 2 gig ram 1394 pci card 100 gig HD 7200 rpm (this was an upgrade which really helped my performance, i previously had a 4400 rpm HD) Samplitude pro 8.0 (I have found this to be very stable for the multimix for 2 yrs now. I tried cakewalk/sonar/cubase to no avail. For those of you that may not be able to afford Samplitude pro, they make a low end version callled Magix music studio (about 30-40$ US) whisch isnt too bad at all but is lacking on channels in(I used it for 5yrs and loved it before upgrading) and has also been stable on my system, or if you look on ummmm- torrent anyone?) Multimix >pc setup firwire from mm>1394 pci card>Samplitude drivers: PLayback- conexant ac audio Recording- MM channels in use headphone channel from mm for can monitoring while playing (or substitute powered monitors in place of phones) use headphone out of pc for playback monitoring (which can be routed into the mm as an analog signal or powered monitors instead of dig through the firewire cable) When you give, You begin to live ~DJM
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/10/26 08:26:35
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EUREEEKA!!!!! OK To get MM firewire installed and working follow these steps < Call alesis support, wait till they pick up, Scream and throw phone angrily against wall, hang up> ***put your driver pack download on a usb stick/cd/external drive- anywhere but on your pc***** 1. Uninstall mulitimix from add/remove programs. There will be 2 instances of Multimix in there. One is multimix control panel, the other is the Alesis driver pack. Make sure you get them both!! 2. open sytem settings, go to hardware, remove Alesis Multimix 3 Here is where it changes. OPEN SEARCH MENU, type in Alesis>>> (3A)Delete everything from them (there will be .dll files and system 32 files, nuke them all!! (3B) perform search for multimix and proceed to delete everything related as you did above. 4. Power down the Multimix 5. Power down PC 6.Start up- you now have an alesis free system, get your gig stic/ usb drive/cd that you placed your drivers on, or get them from alesis again and Follow their clean install instructions, or just continue 7 install MM drivers, let it go through its initial cycle 8 Power on Multimix, light a candle, get on your knees and pray to God, Allah, Buddha or whatever supreme being you may believe in to help you and your pc should now cycle through the 4, YES count them FOUR cycles, <mm channels in/out/main etc..> and you should be good to go If this doesn't work, or you crash down the road, remember to use search and find everything related to alesis/MM and delete/nuke them. I hope this helps all of you I am running old drivers, I think the new ones suck, though I did get them to work, I uninstalled and went back to my comfort zone with the old ones, thankfully i had them backed up, just took forever to dig through all my drives. Anyone in need of older versions, email or pm and Ill send them. Peace and good luck!!
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Ed Dixon
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/10/26 10:22:46
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Entered in error. Sorry didn't notice this was 8 pages long until after I replied. I should know better than to get on these forums first thing in the a.m. UncleMartinD28, I do have the original drivers, will see what I can do about mailing them. I have to find the disk first (shouldn't be hard), I'll look for it while the coffee is cooking.
post edited by Ed Dixon - 2007/11/02 22:25:42
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Ed Dixon
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/10/26 10:52:14
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JUst sent the drivers Josh, 8 files attached to the email a little over 2 mb. couldn't do it from here so I used the contact info on your webpage. Ed Dang I did it again. after I sent the drivers I see that you already have them, oh well coffee's almost done.
post edited by Ed Dixon - 2007/11/02 22:25:21
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/10/28 11:14:42
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ED, Thanks so much!!! I'm saving theses for backups, and in case anyone else ends up needing them. Once again, thanks!!
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire problems
2007/11/05 15:53:43
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Hey, guys! Just to start off, I have had very little problems with my Alesis Multimix12 fire wire. I usually just mess around with the buffer speed until my computer is happy and everything is smooth. My question for you all is this : I just bought a firewire hard drive from Western Digital, 320 gb, specifically for recording. I would like to use the other firewire port in back of the mixer for my hard drive, so I don't need to write right to my computer's hard drive. Audio can get kind of meaty in size so that's why I know I would have a more stable system if I write right to my fire wire external hard drive. I haven't really tried that hard yet, but I was juit wondering if any one could give me the steps of doing this. Do I need to download some drivers? Will the Alesis recognize the drive when I record and write to the external rather than my computer? Please any information would be greatly appreciated.
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JPPOLECAT
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire problems
2007/11/12 12:14:38
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This forum was very helpful! I'm considering buying a multimix 12 so heres what I sum up I may have driver install problems but If I use suggestion here 90 % chance it will eventually work! Don't Call Alesis 's help line better info here Patience It may work right out of the box but expect to frig with it! When it and if works it will work great! ? I hope Now the only question is do I want channel inserts? if so Phonic Helix FW alesis doesn't have them! I think it sums it up have I missed anything?
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire problems
2007/11/12 13:18:59
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/11/14 10:08:01
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Hi UnkleMartinD28, Thanks for the info on the Alesis Multimix firewire with Sonar. It worked for a while, now it keeps shutting my system down. Could you email to me the old drivers. I have a Multimix 16 Firewire. Thanks email address:ronaldbauers@sbcgloba.net
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/01 11:25:20
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Any experience with the multimix and Adobe audition 1.5? I am having the same stupid thing every time-can't make anything recognize anything but ALESIS FIREWIRE IN and ALESIS FIREWIRE OUT. Alesis control panel is installed, but even under inputs on that I can choose DIRECT, MONO, QUAD, 5.1, 7.1 etc, but nothing else shows up for inputs in DAW other than ALESIS FIREWIRE IN. Any suggestions? It works fine with single inputs, but that kind of voids the purpose of the firewire mixer as I bought it for live recording practice sessions with a band.
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/03 15:05:37
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Im very interested on that multitrack recorder... i've read lots of forum and opinions...everyone has managed to get them to work proprely.. can someone please send me a record from the alexis multimix 16 channels with more than 1 channel recorded...(either separated tracks or everything together, just recorded at the same time) send to nightgost@gmail.com the track/s or the links to listen. Thank you
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/03 15:08:59
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire problems
2007/12/18 01:14:20
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From what I understand about the way the MM works, your going to have to choose your external drive as the save drive from your software. Your not going to be able to write directly to the drive via the fw port on the MM. when you originally lay down a track, it is a temp file until you save it to a directory/file/folder on your pc. If your pc can handle 2 fw ports , one for the MM, the other for the external drive your speed is matched. If your writing to your external drive through a usb, keep in mind the slower transfer rate. I use a dedicated partition on my pc for recording and backup all files and also save the track to an external drive afterwards. you can delete space off your pc, or just move them to another drive to free up space.
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/18 01:18:10
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Hey, just got the post, ill zip up files and send. There is a new problem with the MM itself that alesis hasn't worked around. I'll have to find a new workaround before i send. Are you getting any error messages or lockups of you software when the MM quits working?
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/18 01:21:21
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There has been a recent rash of MM crashes in december, mine included on dec 6th. I have managed to get it to work on a daily basis with reinstalls, but something is up with their software corrupting, or the firmware corrupting- and inputs are disappearing. I'll repost info in next few days on the workaround. Best I can tell you at the moment is go to an old driver from 2005-06 and use the reinstall method above.
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/18 01:30:31
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Also, if anyone who has been through the recent crash, any info on what exactly happened, error codes? audio loss/lockup, software stall/lockup? It would greatly help me pinpoint the problem ad find the best driver workaround :) peace
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/18 01:34:56
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Funny, i just checked alesis, and lo and behold, the nov driver update has mysteriously disappeared and july is back up. Im going to post a link for the driver package that I find works for more than 24 hours on here.
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lespaulman35
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/18 08:40:57
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ORIGINAL: slipmip Dude check out Phonic's stuff they have a firewire interface similar to the alesis. I have a post on here trying to get opinions on it but no one is biting. I am definitly interested in the mixer interface combination myself and im waiting for some reviews on the phonic and alesis gear. The phonic stuff is a bit cheaper and it can run a higher bit rate (96 kHz) than the alesis multimix so its worth checking out. http://www.phonic.com/partner/modules/product_explor/products_detail.php?product_id=139 peace That link didn't work for me.
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/18 08:53:54
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Nevermind! That link was on page 1. After reading this topic I don't want an Alesis.
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/30 05:09:57
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Here are some older drivers I have working for download. Go to www.joshlasinsky.com and visit the cool links section. Ill keep them updated there. I found this easier than responding to pm's
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JCoster
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/30 12:23:06
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Hi there. I have a MultiMix FW 8 mixer running firmware 2.0. Previously I have had no problems, however since upgrading in whatever recording program I use it randomly stops recording sometime between 0 and 60 seconds in. This happens to whatever channels I record. It is happening on two machines, both of which run Vista Business, however I understand Alesis fully support Vista now? The drivers and firmware are latest available and whatever I do I can’t seem to resolve this problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated. After reading this entire thread I may go back to the older drivers but I'd rather not if the current July drivers are any better? Thanks.
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/30 14:15:26
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JCoster, that same problem came to me too when updating drivers. So I changed back to the old ones and now I don't have it anymore! Haven't found any good reason to change to the new drivers...
post edited by Deinonychius - 2007/12/30 14:38:24
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JCoster
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/30 14:31:12
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Thanks. Is it possible to use the older drivers with the new firmware? Or can/do you have to roll back the firmware? Which drivers did you use? Thanks.
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Deinonychius
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/30 15:02:45
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I use the new firmware and it works well. The drivers are the ones which came with the Alesis CD. Oh and by the way I'm using MultiMix 8.
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2007/12/31 03:12:41
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JCoster, As far as I can tell, you are going to be limited to the last batch, maybe 2 of drivers. Those are the only ones I know that are vista compatible. I'm not sure, but you may be able to run the old drivers in backwards compatibility mode for vista-xp , though I'm not familiar with vista and if it is an option. Also, you said you are running vista business - that may be the source of your problem, the drivers are for vista, IMO not for vista business I would assume. The auto shut off of your recoding process I have no clue on, could use some more details and what programs you are running for recording and any errors or glitching that occurs. Are the tracks even playing even though the recording process was stopped? I found the last crash of MM drivers was due to a windows update (late nov) that somehow causes my software to freeze when I use the play/stop shortcut key (on mine it is the space bar) I can press it a few times, then my drivers corrupt and everything freezes. I'm back to only necessary updates for the alesis to run and thats it. If I were you, I would take a blank drive and install xp on it and use it strictly for recording. You can choose to boot up with that drive as necessary and have a clean operating system to work off of. Also, when you are going to record, shut down all unnecessary processes. I'm running xp with 14 processes going in the task manager. Shut off your wireless internet if you have it. Ditto for the firewall and anything else that may want to run- and turn off the automatic updates- that has caused me problems numerous times. I have found the multi-mix to be most stable when your running xp stripped down. Every time I crash the MM, it has been due to some windows update ad things going out of wack. I have it on its own drive and operating system and it does fairly well. Im just not impressed with windows when it comes to recording, I see a Macintosh in my near future Older drivers (not vista compatible, so alesis says. If you try them, better back up your system and set a restore point!!) can be downloaded Click here and go to the cool link section. Hope this helps
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2008/01/07 10:42:41
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Hi guys, i've had this device for sometime now and have recorded quite a lot of material, it's a plug, but there is a reason, all the songs here are recorded using the alesis multimix 16. I can use it and cubase not had chance to try it with cakewalk yet, but am about too. Anyhow, if you go this website http://www.visionthingband.com/ they're all recorded via the multimix by me and my brother. Hope you enjoy.
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unkleMartinD28
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2008/01/07 20:56:11
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Updated the yousendit link for older working MM drivers on my site, click here go to the cool links section
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RE: Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire
2008/02/01 16:34:04
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Can someone tell what the difference is between the Alesis Multimix 16 USB 2.0 vs the firewire model ? Any recommendations as to which one is preferrable? Thanks
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