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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 18:59:14 (permalink)
I did that. In the download it says it's version 1.1 When I start it up it shows version 1.0 and the latest upgrade as 1.0. I exited and came in but it still shows 1.0 I've tried update from settings several times now unsuccessfully 

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:00:10 (permalink)
I think maybe the issue is he needs to download CCC 1.1 from the Command Center page.

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:03:13 (permalink)
I am having a problem I cannot see my project thumbnail or snap shot
 
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:04:35 (permalink)
I think you have to save a project before the Start screen will capture a thumbnail.

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:16:45 (permalink)
I saved a new project and it shows a black box not the thumbnail of the project
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:18:14 (permalink)
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I think maybe the issue is he needs to download CCC 1.1 from the Command Center page.


I've tried that 3 times now. I've gone so far as to uninstall the CCC from control panel. I've reinstalled the latest version from your link below and when I run it it shows version 1.0 From there I went into settings and logged out then in. I then re run the CCC and still it shows Version 1.0

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:32:53 (permalink)
I downloaded CCC 1.1 from the Command Center page and installed it after I start ccc it say 1.0.0 and not 1.1
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:34:44 (permalink)
It's certainly very inconvenient that you can't tell the version number in the CCC UI.
 

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:38:36 (permalink)
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I downloaded CCC 1.1 from the Command Center page and installed it after I start ccc it say 1.0.0 and not 1.1


Same here. I installed the Hopkinton update but I still see 1.0 as my and the latest version of the CCC.

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:42:16 (permalink)
I am burning up this got so MAD not being able to get the new updates also the right version of ccc. I guest everyone at cakewalk have gone home. 
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:45:09 (permalink)
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I am burning up this got so MAD not being able to get the new updates also the right version of ccc. I guest everyone at cakewalk have gone home. 


Download it from the your account in the cakewalk store.


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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 19:49:29 (permalink)
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I am burning up this got so MAD not being able to get the new updates also the right version of ccc. I guest everyone at cakewalk have gone home. 


If the button is yellow in the version of Sonar you have go ahead and upgrade. It will give you the Hopkinton Upgrade. I still show CCC version 1.0

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:00:04 (permalink)
I uninstalled the CCC and reinstalled. Then I logged out then in. Then from settings I ran update. I started the CCC still showing version 1.0. This time the platinum button was yellow. It gave me the Hopkinton Upgrade as far as I can tell. I have the new start up screen. The CCC still shows version 1.0 and in my store account the last thing registered was drum replacement. No sign of the Hopkinton Upgrade in my store account. 

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:00:47 (permalink)
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I am burning up this got so MAD not being able to get the new updates also the right version of ccc. I guest everyone at cakewalk have gone home. 



Not me. I prefer to wait a few weeks to see if we get a regression bug fix release. With start screen not supporting UTF and from what else I'm reading, I have a feeling it will happen.
 
Happy to stick with Gloucester for the moment.

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:19:48 (permalink)
The new start screen is ok I guess. The problem I have with it is all the wasted space. I have big boxes for each project and the icon in the middle is about 1/3rd the size of the box.
 
If there was a way to specify the size of the box or get rid of it altogether that would be nice. 
 
I also notice that the open time for Sonar is increased by 5-6 seconds while the new start screen loads.
 
Otherwise I like that it shakes things up a bit. The new templates seem like a good way to try out a bunch of sounds to find what you want and make your own track templates.
 
I'm sure I will get used to the new start screen.

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:20:12 (permalink)
OK the 1.0 is from my list at the top of the CCC. It's not the version of CCC I have but of the Modern Drum Replacement upgrade. I checked out the new start up screen and love it! Don't laugh and you know who you are!!
 I Am on prescribed drugs at the moment so at least I have an excuse. 

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:30:54 (permalink)
OK I was going to start working on a project and started sonar and there it was the new start screen? Could it be that this update installed differently then the other updates because I didn't see a yellow button anyway it look like I got
the "Hopkinton" update.
Thank you to everyone for your help.
Cakewalk you still have some bugs to fix.
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:33:29 (permalink)
OK Now I see that when I save a project it creates a new thumbnail that is used in the start menu.
 
I guess that is cool but most my projects will look very similar in the thumbnail because I use the same layout all the time. LOL
 
Still the wasted vertical space is significant. I have the MRU for sonar set to 15 but can only see 8 without scrolling. 
 
Everything else so far checks out and my projects are working as intended.
 
Thanks for another smooth update.

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:40:16 (permalink)
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Ryan, I am using version 1.0.0.0 of command center.


It sounds like you're confusing another product's version for the Command Center version. CTRL + Click on the Settings icon on the top right and it will tell you the exact version # of Command Center. The latest is 1.1.1.20.
 
In Command Center, under Connected Products, if you click on "SONAR Platinum" specifically it should fetch the update details, telling you what your Current Version installed is as well as the Latest Version available. Be mindful it only does this for the details obtained in the last update check (which defaults to 24 hours and can be tweaked in the settings).
 
As I was also mentioning, you can also access the latest updates from http://www.cakewalk.com/my-account/products . It's an important troubleshooting step in the sense that if you see the latest SONAR update in your account versus in Command Center, it lets us know the issue is with Command Center fetching updates versus with your membership status (which would take us down a different path).
 
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:45:49 (permalink)
Why can I not see the thumbnail of thwe project just a black thumbnail with no picture
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:51:08 (permalink)
Try saving the project. Also (long shot) try clearing picture cache.

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:52:34 (permalink)
Ok Ryan I have the right version of ccc 1.1
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:55:12 (permalink)
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Why can I not see the thumbnail of thwe project just a black thumbnail with no picture


The thumbnail reflects the project's last save state. If the project has not been saved in Hopkinton it will just display the default thumbnail for a project file. When you save it should create the thumbnail with how your project last appeared.

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:55:25 (permalink)
Ryan thank you very much for your help I did get the update everything is working now.
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:56:26 (permalink)
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Ryan thank you very much for your help I did get the update everything is working now.


Awesome!! Glad to hear it! :)

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 20:59:54 (permalink)
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I also notice that the open time for Sonar is increased by 5-6 seconds while the new start screen loads.


Maybe the initial time you run it, it is slow. Second time you start Sonar it is faster? (Cached).

Otherwise (speculation) that would appear to indicate the news feed (whilst downloading XML from the internet or whatever) is not working in it's own seperate process like the plugin scanner does (a fear I stated a few days ago). Or perhaps some things aren't being cached. Heaven forbid this does not end up like a Rap Pro startup issue.

Before jumping to a full conclusion it would be nice to hear feedback from others. Thx.
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 21:17:43 (permalink)
"Start Screen when offline" query: 
 
Hi, just wondering if anyone has tried the new start screen without an internet connection.  Is there any delay while the program looks for the non-existent connection? (especially interested in Win7 behaviour)
 
CW-Do you use a "time out" approach or just look once?
 
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 21:33:04 (permalink)
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I also notice that the open time for Sonar is increased by 5-6 seconds while the new start screen loads.


Maybe the initial time you run it, it is slow. Second time you start Sonar it is faster? (Cached).

Otherwise (speculation) that would appear to indicate the news feed (whilst downloading XML from the internet or whatever) is not working in it's own seperate process like the plugin scanner does (a fear I stated a few days ago). Or perhaps some things aren't being cached. Heaven forbid this does not end up like a Rap Pro startup issue.

Before jumping to a full conclusion it would be nice to hear feedback from others. Thx.



 
The load time for the new start screen is easy to determine. Just go to File>start screen.
 
As for how much time it adds to the initial start my educated guess is about 2-3 seconds. I had previously timed the Sonar start on my system and it was 4-5 seconds on average. Now it is approx 7 seconds.
 
While that is not much it is noticeable.
 

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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 22:07:16 (permalink)

As for how much time it adds to the initial start my educated guess is about 2-3 seconds. I had previously timed the Sonar start on my system and it was 4-5 seconds on average. Now it is approx 7 seconds.
 

Just wondering, is this with or without internet connection on? 
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Re: August SONAR "Hopkinton" now available 2015/08/26 22:18:23 (permalink)
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Just wondering, is this with or without internet connection on? 




With the internet on. I have not tried without. Honestly it's not much and I can see there may some benefit from it in the future so....

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