Blades,
Thank you man I appreciate it! Take your time just when you have a free moment and feel into it:) I would love any type that would play in windows media player but flv is fine too so whatever is easy for you, once again thank you for making it in the first place and sharing it with us all.
take care
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ORIGINAL: Blades

I'd be happy to post these as downloadable, but I need some free time to do that. Currently, they are a Flash object calling on an FLV object, and it doesn't appear to work very well without the html/java that's kicking it off: in short, downloading just the files won't likely get you something you could play.

So I'll have to translate them into wmv or something.

No need to go to that trouble, Flash players are downloadable, there's one here http://www.download.com/FLV-Player/3000-13632_4-10467081.html

Nice vids BTW. It's interesting to see how different users make use of different features 'cos the PAN mode is the one I hardly ever use. I spend most of my time jumping between Track mode, Send, and EQ. Despite having a PCR-800 that'll pick up plug-ins on the fly via ACT, I still find myself coming back to plug in mode on the BCF for them too.

I just can't believe how cheap it is compared to comparative products.

ORIGINAL: b3gsus@msn.com

just can't believe how cheap it is compared to comparative products.

That's the biggest plus & Behringer seems to be able to put out some very decent equipment/comparable at half the price! I've been using a Mackie Control Universal for years but picked up a BCF2000 just to subsidize my MCU although I would have bought a pair of Mackie Extenders if the price wasn't so high as it's much easier IMHO to use the Mackie. You don't have to think your way through every function as with the BCF2000.... As with anything, the more you use it, the more it becomes second nature..... I haven't seen much input from any on the Forum about the Novation Nocturn but it's shown alot of good reviews in several publications... Wildman

I've never used a Mackie but I'm guessing it would be easier to use and definitely looks better. Both which it should, given the price difference. Like in any field for professional use it's definitely worth spending the extra but for people like myself, i.e. hobbyist with limited space the BCF is a God send. I'd have to cut a piece of the end of a Mackie to fit it into the space I have available for a start. Once you've learnt all the different key combinations though you can really fly around on it. A BCF is most definitely value for money though, as most of the Behringer kit is.

I know it gets looked down on by some which I understand, but what they need to understand is hobbyists don't need or can necessarily afford the all singing all dancing kit. It's a bit like me poo-pooing someone who rides a scooter or small motorbike, what you should have is a fully tuned and kitted 190mph, 0-60 in 2 sec, sportsbike - nice to have but unless you're on track, not necessary at all and in fact complete overkill.

Man I got a good deal on the Behringer BCF2000... $149.95 and free shipping.... (and no it's not the BCR2000...I asked them twice to make sure...lol) can't wait to get my hands on it now...

I ordered it last week from another place (179.99) but they emailed me back said they made a mistake and didn't have it in and would be Feb before they got any more..So I found this new place....the black one was free shipping but the white one was $12.99 to ship UPS...lol

Just got my BCF today.....gonna watch the videos again then get it installed....

I'll keep you updated :)


Ken

Grand, fab, sweet, excellent, cool, etc

Glad to know my time wasn't wasted. I should ask Behringer for some money!

I would think that you could use the BCR using that plugin that was created by someone around here. I'm sure you know about it by now. Since the BCF will work Mackie mode, it won't care about another control surface at the same time. I've also got an edirol pcr-800 and use ACT with it completely independantly of the BCF. In fact, each has a WAI strip of a different color as well.

WAI = Where am I ...... See I paid attention.....lol :D


ken

I would like to assign some faders to tracks and a few others to buses during mixing. Looks like that's not possible?

It's not possible to say have faders 1 - 4 assigned to tracks and 5 - 8 to busses but it is just one one-handed key combination to switch straight from tracks to busses and the beauty of motorised faders is they 'remember' where they are.

Take the plunge, buy one I promise you will not regret it. If I had room I'd have another one, at the price they are they are an absolute bargain.

You can of course have as many busses as you wish but if you have less than 8 the remaining faders just snap to zero so it's not compulsory to have them all in use. Make sure you download the BCFView which is a freebie on the Behringer website. It's a virtual LCD so you can also see where you are, values, etc.

Here's another sonar 8 benefit: You can set the bcf to follow visible tracks in the track or console views as opposed to linking to "all tracks" regardless of their visibility.

So, in short, if you hide tracks from view or just collapse a folder so you can't see them, the bcf will automatically switch to controlling visible tracks.

While that doesn't really address the tracks vs. bus issue, it definitely makes it a little less cumbersome.

I have found that the bcfview virtual lcd strip is useful but I honestly usually forget to load it before staring Sonar so I've not come to rely on it. I haven't been able to make it work under Vista either, for what it's worth.

Thanks for the Kudos on the taining video, smallstonefan!

Thanks for the advice guys, I ordered one today. I have to do final mixes on about 8 tracks. This will save me hours.

Hi Blades,

Yeah, I sometimes get surprised when I look back over my list of books. :) The years keep rolling by and the list keeps growing... lol

I can't wait to experiment with this. I have some mixes to do and I'm at the point where I really need to work with some volume envelopes. By letting me automate the volume of a many busss at once with my figners instead of that crazy click-drag fest of the mouse, this thing should save me hours of work!

Thanks again for the vidoes, they really helped. I'll let you know how it goes when I actually get the unit. I'm hoping before the weekend, but guessing it will be early next week.

Dang. Hurry up and ship Fullcompass!!!! lol