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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 04:24:47 (permalink)
 
I got the email too... sounds promising and exciting... looking forward to more announcements that are expected on June 01st 2016.
 
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 04:26:07 (permalink)
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Current store lifetime upgrade states 225.78 Euros, is that correct - exchange rates dollar/euro are normally the other way round, or are we talking VAT here ?



I think it's VAT. My price is €188.15 + 21% VAT. It very much looks like yours is the same price + 20% VAT. That €188.15 seems in line with $199.99.
 
EDIT: am also wondering what the business rationale is. Regular SPlat yearly subscription is apparently $149.99 so lifetime is hardly more expensive. 
post edited by Rocsee70 - 2016/05/18 05:53:03
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 04:51:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2016/05/18 05:25:28
Opted in, but I have rather bad feeling about what CW is going to deliver. This year we have got so far:
* drop of phone support (since CW is reading this thread... do you know that it is not possible to schedule call back, right? )
* SONAR self de-authorizing
* bad written 2 master plug-ins
* redundant button to add tracks
* simplified way to submit material to one online mastering service
I know that many users are excited by this list, I am not
 
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 05:03:15 (permalink)
Whoah.. I was still browsing through that link you sent and ended up paying for it. Not entirely unhappy, but give a little "Are You Sure"? option maybe?

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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 05:05:42 (permalink)
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Whoah.. I was still browsing through that link you sent and ended up paying for it. Not entirely unhappy, but give a little "Are You Sure"? option maybe?



Doesn't it just work like any other webshop ? When you click buy, it's added to your Shopping Cart. You then still need to go Checkout before you actually are buying it. So I don't see how you can accidentally buy it.
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 05:45:22 (permalink)
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Current store lifetime upgrade states 225.78 Euros, is that correct - exchange rates dollar/euro are normally the other way round, or are we talking VAT here ?



I think it's VAT. My price is €188.15 + 21% VAT. It very much looks like yours is the same price + 20% VAT. That €188.15 seems in line with $199.99.
 
EDIT: am also wondering what the business rationale is. Regular SPlat yearly subscription is apparently $149.99 so lifetime is hardly more expensive. 


The devil is in the detail and what constitutes the core features. I suspect one will still have to pay for additional "non core" features (third party applications, VSTis, Pro Channel modules etc.) making the choice far from straightforward, I am sitting tight until June 1st. 

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 05:50:19 (permalink)
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The devil is in the detail and what constitutes the core features. I suspect one will still have to pay for additional "non core" features (third party applications, VSTis, Pro Channel modules etc.) making the choice far from straightforward, I am sitting tight until June 1st. 



Correct. Personally I always liked that I got several 'freebies' in the past like VSTs and stuff, although you can indeed argue that in the end you were just paying for those. Given that change to a bare bones Sonar, it would be highly likely that after this one-time lifetime offer, they will significantly lower the regular monthly/yearly subscriptions as well, at which time the lifetime offer would become a bit less spectacular.
PS: we can actually sit tight until end of August, since that is when the offer expires.
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 05:54:54 (permalink)
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I received my email and following the link says lifetime membership will cost £420 GBP.
Is this correct?



I think yours should probably be the same as mine, £88.44 incl VAT, with the £420 crossed out. 




Yep... That's what I paid


Thanks lads. Showing £88.44 now.

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 06:05:25 (permalink)
Hmm. For me it shows as £148. Is this because I pay monthly, rather than annually? I have an unbroken membership from Jan 2015.

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 06:11:07 (permalink)
Hi Cakewalk
 
I also never get emails (about this or anything else)...I did notice I wasn't signed up for the newsletter, which probably explains it....but could I please be "email activated" or whatever you call it?  :-)
 
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 06:14:55 (permalink)
I am listed as subscribed to newsletters but didn't receive this email either. I tried the pay once option in the store and got £99 plus VAT which is different again to what some of you seem to have. I also have been using SPlat since Jan 2015

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 06:16:29 (permalink)
i didn't get the memo either. which is strange because this last year for the first time ever I have actually been receiving Cakewalk emails. Following the link on p3 of this thread my price appears to be 199USDollars. Is this standard or are some people actually getting it for $99?

 
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 06:16:32 (permalink)
"Pay Once" isn't the same thing. That's the 12 month membership. I've mentioned this a few times in the thread. They really should fix that terminology. Going to be loads of confusion over it.

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 06:34:29 (permalink)
No email here yet ..... resubscribed this afternoon
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 06:39:55 (permalink)
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Whoah.. I was still browsing through that link you sent and ended up paying for it. Not entirely unhappy, but give a little "Are You Sure"? option maybe?



Doesn't it just work like any other webshop ? When you click buy, it's added to your Shopping Cart. You then still need to go Checkout before you actually are buying it. So I don't see how you can accidentally buy it.


Actually, if your credit card details are loaded, Buy means Buy. Click and it's a done deal. In the past it always first verified everything. I'm sure it's my mistake, but I have bought LOADS of the CW products and this was a bit surprising.

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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 06:47:05 (permalink)
Didn't get that email either...


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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 07:25:41 (permalink)
hmmm. Can someone just copy and paste the e-mail so we could read it?

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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 07:33:56 (permalink)
I only got the first mail too. And my price is 227 euros, which seems high as I already paid for the yearly twice. 
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 07:34:07 (permalink)
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hmmm. Can someone just copy and paste the e-mail so we could read it?


If that is allowed, I think it would be a good idea. Just got the first mail myself regarding June 1st.
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 07:37:25 (permalink)
It's on the third page. 
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 07:39:05 (permalink)
Thanks, Sander

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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 08:07:13 (permalink)
I got the email yesterday. I jumped on it. Seemed like a no-brainer based on what I've seen over the past year.

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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 08:08:33 (permalink)
Andrew,

If you could be so kind, I too didn't get the email... my email address wasn't up to date.  I have corrected it now so could you please forward me this email?
 
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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 08:17:58 (permalink)
Hi Andrew,
 
Me too. Bought my renewal through JRR...maybe that's why I'm not getting this email? I have all of the other recent emails.
 
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 08:20:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby stickman393 2016/05/18 15:22:15
Reading through this thread has made me realize several things:

1. Many people need to learn to read an entire email regarding special announcements.
2. Web mail providers' SPAM bins are finicky beasts that range wildly as to their voracity.
3.People unsubscribe their email address from things without knowing what they're unsubscribing from.
4. Some people would complain if you gave out $100 bills on the street corner.

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Re: Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 08:21:31 (permalink)
I'm guessing the other two announcements will be for optional add on content.
Still... seems like a good deal if your happy and planning on staying with Sonar.

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 08:23:59 (permalink)
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This isn't based on info from Cakewalk, but personally, I see it more like jb101. I'd consider Aux Tracks to fall under core features, but not something like Drum Replacer or Vocal Sync. Look at how FL Studio does their updates for life - core program gets updated, but add-ons like plug-ins are optional at extra cost. 
 
If that's what Cakewalk is going to do, that makes a lot of sense. Then no one can complain about paying for something they don't need, and the people who need something can pay for it. It seems Cakewalk is really moving more in the "it's your choice" direction. This also neatly solves the problem of "what if a bug is fixed after I don't renew?"




OK if Craig is speculating openly on this here then I guess it's fair game. This makes a certain amount of sense to me, too (my previous speculation notwithstanding). In this context, the closed window of lifetime-membership availability - though of course they are free to open it again at a later date, but this particular window seems to be only until Aug 31 - is primarily a kind of an olive branch to the core faithful who have renewed this year. Otherwise, if they just dropped the bombshell of 'we are changing the model, no more major new features come with the membership, only fixes to what's already there, all major new features will be paid add-ons' it would be kind of a slap in the face to those of us that have renewed this year expecting an ongoing stream of goodies. Despite a few people insisting that they only want fixes and streamlining, most of us want that *and* some sparkly new things once in a while. This way we get to roll our investment into an 'exclusive' lifetime membership that would otherwise cost a certain amount, likely lower than it has been but still an ongoing cost, per year or per month. It's a little strange to make that offer without telling us exactly what it is we're opting into, but that would also explain the request for secrecy, which obviously hasn't gone entirely to plan. But why pre-announce it at all then?
 
Maybe the model simply hasn't worked as well as was hoped for and this is a necessary adjustment. Maybe they are really transitioning to a full-blown subscription model. Maybe this was planned all along (though I personally doubt this as it would require a level of dishonesty I'd prefer not to ascribe to our Bakerly friends!). Maybe my previous speculation was correct and it's just a play for needed cash-flow to support some major stuff that they're willing to bet the farm on. Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about (this happens frequently) and it's a completely different situation that we'll find out about in, err, 2 weeks!
 
Ach, it's going to be a long 2 weeks!

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 08:52:07 (permalink)
please keep it simple... (i am too old for this - expectations-)
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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 08:53:06 (permalink)
This is very interesting and courageous of Cakewalk. The first two items in the FAQ (in the email) pretty much explains what's included. I like the idea of "core features" vs. "new products".
 
I would encourage Cakewalk to focus on core features and less on "one-knob tricks" to keep the core DAW competitive.

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Re: Huge announcements coming June 1st, 2016 2016/05/18 09:01:59 (permalink)
Hi Andrew, got no email. Renewed this year via Audiodeluxe.

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