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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/01 02:27:29
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/01 06:20:32
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Hey Guys,
I was looking for some extension cords for my live rig and I happened upon... well you probably guessed it... Monster Cable extension cords. I found two versions. Both are only 8 feet long and they cost $50 or $100 depending on the features, he he. They are gold plated and mylar coated and blah, blah, blah. What's sad and scary is that this psychological crap works on me. I'm looking at this thinking, how much coating for EM and RF interference do I need? I found some Hosa cords that are the perfect length and are $12 each which I think should do it since they make cables for the music industry but if it's not too off topic, could you guys tell me what you think about EM and RF sheilding and how much is needed? If you have a preferred brand, that would be cool too.
later,
Chipstar
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/01 10:21:14
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my preferred brand is mogami for all things XLR and TRS.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/01 13:25:29
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ORIGINAL: chipstar
Hey Guys,
I was looking for some extension cords for my live rig and I happened upon... well you probably guessed it... Monster Cable extension cords. I found two versions. Both are only 8 feet long and they cost $50 or $100 depending on the features, he he. They are gold plated and mylar coated and blah, blah, blah. What's sad and scary is that this psychological crap works on me. I'm looking at this thinking, how much coating for EM and RF interference do I need? I found some Hosa cords that are the perfect length and are $12 each which I think should do it since they make cables for the music industry but if it's not too off topic, could you guys tell me what you think about EM and RF sheilding and how much is needed? If you have a preferred brand, that would be cool too.
later,
Chipstar
Check here for some thoughts: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1228498&mpage=1&key=�
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/01 13:45:49
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Oh, am I late to read this about Monster Cable, you can bet I'll never purchase their products. A classic case of how attorney will do and say anything at any cost to bill clients and reak havoc upon ordinary people.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/01 14:12:53
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Hey Yep,
Thank you for all of that information. I have a question though. Regarding the incoming line, are you speaking of the actually wiring in my home as well? I would think so. I will basically be running the extension cables out of a Furman power conditioner directly into a few Roland keyboard amps. I've the highest quality gear that I could afford and I figured that a $24 investment wasn't a bad idea just to see if there is a difference. Ultimately, I can try the amps without the extension cables and with them to see if I can actually hear a difference. I need someone else's help to run the double blind tests though.
later,
Chipstar
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/01 16:30:09
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Chipstar, I think you might need to clarify your questions a litte. Also it would probably be helpful to reply in the other thread for the sake forum clarity and anyone else who might care.
Cheers.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/01 16:31:52
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Do you think the audiophile thread would be better? I'm going there now.
later,
Chipstar
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/01 18:28:35
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ORIGINAL: chipstar
Do you think the audiophile thread would be better? I'm going there now.
later,
Chipstar
Um, no. I meant the thread about power cords that I linked to above. That is what you're asking about, right? Cheers.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/03 06:17:05
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ORIGINAL: Brett
ORIGINAL: daverich
slightly off-topic but a friend was telling me today how he's replaced all the interconnect cables in the studio with digital cable - the stuff you use for Spdif etc.
He reckons it's a big improvement over normal audio cable,- the theory being it's screening has to be that much better.
Kind regards
Dave Rich
Well your friend has more money than sense.
Now can we stop this stupid audiophile crap?
no we cant ;) Apparently if you by a roll of it and neutrik connectors and make your own,- they work out very cheap indeed. Kind regards Dave Rich
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/04 06:04:39
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Oh HELL NO! No they didnt try to sue Fenway, a classic ball park. I grew up seeing the green monster a few times as a kid. F**K monster cable. Sue me biatches!
Yall need to get a clue ya f***en corporate ass wanna be money hungry biatches.
THATS bullsh**t! I should know, Im a taurus!
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/07 13:08:44
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Bose has (fairly or not) a bit of a reputation in the pro audio world for being sort of over-hyped, over-priced consumer-grade equipment marketed as high-end equipment. It fair and true! Bose is way over priced. Remember the Bose 801s? They were the joke of the industry. They were called harmonic distortion generators.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/07 13:44:31
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"Can't hear highs, can't hear lows--must be Bose!"
This thread is still going strong!
I guess Monster has to charge $50 for a 20' cable to pay their legal fees?
A saleswoman once told me that she always bought Monster because of their in-store replacement policy, as she was forever ruining her cables in the studio by rolling over them with her chair. What an awful mess her studio must be!
Having never understood the cable mystique and being too old to worry about what others think of my choices, I buy cables online--whatever's reasonably priced, and preferably on sale!
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/16 00:34:57
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I bet the folks that run the Red Sox organization laughed their...... well they probably just got annoyed and had a lawyer shoot back a memo squelching it;
what a sleezy organization
I wonder how Musician's Friend would deal with a petition from their regulars--
just a thought Yep
thanks for posting this
-JD
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/16 09:43:33
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ORIGINAL: contact@jondunn.org
I bet the folks that run the Red Sox organization laughed their...... well they probably just got annoyed and had a lawyer shoot back a memo squelching it...
I know it seems like it should be laughed off but this lawsuit campaign is no joke-- take a look at the disclaimer at the bottom of monster.com. These people are extracting settlements and shakedown money from a lot of places. Cheers.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/16 12:25:49
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I guess Monster has to charge $50 for a 20' cable to pay their legal fees? No they have this covered by bilking the small entrepreneur out of their money and tying them up in legal BS. I've told every one I can about what Monster is doing to independent businesses to discourage the feeding of a monster (pun not intended).
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/16 14:17:07
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This started out as a bump, and then I realized that yep and Doc and Jon Dunn have already bumped it. You see, I'm heavily medicated already, and in the last few days I've increased my dosage on the one that makes me sleep all the time and foggy when I'm awake. I thought it was Christmas, so of course the posts from 12/16 were pretty old. Sorry guys. There should be a warning on this stuff. Oh, wait -- there is. Never mind.
post edited by Jessie Sammler - 2007/12/16 14:54:32
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chipstar
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2007/12/16 14:26:40
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Shameless, just shameless Jessie, he he. I wanted to mention an encounter I had with Monster support at the start of 2007 (before I knew about the lawsuits) that was pretty telling. I had called to get some advice on the different grades of cabling since they have what seems like 5 versions of every cable. The guy on the phone really surprised me by telling me what we all seem to know here, that there fundamentally is no difference in the quality of the cables. Believe it or not, he told me to choose the cheaper of the options otherwise I would be wasting my money. Assuming that the 'this call may recorded or monitored for quality assurance' message is remotely valid, this guy probably lost his job but I appreciated the honesty. I haven't purchased Monster product since that time and I haven't regretted it.
later,
Chipstar
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2008/01/10 16:07:14
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This had fallen a bit low on the radar, so I'm bumping it, but with a story.
So, went to GC the other day to take a look at a Blue mic that a buddy said was kinda nifty. It was, but not nifty enough for it's pricetag, but I find it difficult to leave music stores without spending anything. They had some nice looking Neutrik-ended mic cables for a reasonable price, in shorter lengths than normal, so I grabbed them and walked up to the counter.
Chatted with a little boy behind the counter, who asked what I'd be using them for (told him about my studio). Little boy says "Oh, man! You don't want these cheap things! We've got some EXCELLENT deals on Monster going on. Here, let me show you!" and drags me over to the still-overpriced Monster crap.
I politely state I don't buy Monster, and give him my elevator speach as to why, and turn to head back to the counter. He says "Well, I'm not going to let you buy this junk, man. At least, not if you care about what you're laying down! You've gotta have some PRIDE man!"
I stopped, looked at him and said, as clearly as I could "You're right. Never mind. I won't be buying anything today." and handed him the "cheapie" cables, and walked out the door.
What an idiot.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2008/01/10 16:17:12
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I politely state I don't buy Monster, and give him my elevator speach as to why, and turn to head back to the counter. He says "Well, I'm not going to let you buy this junk, man. At least, not if you care about what you're laying down! You've gotta have some PRIDE man!"
I stopped, looked at him and said, as clearly as I could "You're right. Never mind. I won't be buying anything today." and handed him the "cheapie" cables, and walked out the door.
Wow, great story! Funny, I get the feeling that the little boy never caught the real irony of what transpired. Thanks for sharing it with us.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2008/01/10 18:03:43
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Guitar Center and Monster Cable were made for each other. I hope they're happy together, because they both suck ass.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2008/01/10 18:20:35
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I stopped, looked at him and said, as clearly as I could "You're right. Never mind. I won't be buying anything today." and handed him the "cheapie" cables, and walked out the door. awesome. i hope his manager was within earshot.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2012/11/06 16:58:28
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Dire ping
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the odd 'big name' guitar lead or two but really it's all just a big hype trick
If 'Dire Straits' can record and master such superb sounding albums as 'Brothers In Arms' in studios wired with regular star quad mic cables then it's good enough for me - end of story
Cheers
ping
And I've actually cleaned the patch panel leads used for that album with brasso. At the time I wish they were gold plated they were so bloody dirty, gave me cramp in my hands.
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2012/11/06 18:08:42
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Jessie Sammler
Guitar Center and Monster Cable were made for each other. I hope they're happy together, because they both suck ass.
yup, couldn't agree more
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RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2012/11/06 22:08:24
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LOL, i've never bought a monster cable.
so how can i boycott something i've never been interested in buying anyway?
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Re: RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2012/11/07 00:35:05
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A ten foot microphone cable did not work from them. It still don't.
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Re: RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2012/11/07 12:04:39
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Wow another Vintage thread from 2007, but still relevant.
If a music store is pushing a particular brand then it's because they are probably getting a better mark up on that product line.
There are tighter margins on the "good" stuff.
Monster Cable is very profitable to sell and they somehow have become a "name brand".
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Re: RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2012/11/07 20:22:44
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Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy. Win 7 x64 X2 Intel DX58SO, Intel i7 920 2.66ghz 12gb DDR3 ASUS ATI EAH5750 650w PSU 4x WD HDs 320gb DVD, DVD RW Eleven Rack, KRK Rokit 8s and 10s sub
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Re: RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2012/11/07 20:49:19
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another Vintage thread from 2007, but still relevant. Sad, no? That it's still relevant.
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Re: RE: Boycott Monster Cable
2015/06/17 17:55:38
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So,
In all these years.
I have never bought a Monster Cable!
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