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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/12 23:22:33 (permalink)
Interiesting discussion... I agree with some here, and I also admit to not always contributing as I should... I'll try to do better... but not today... ... I think I just found the hook line to my next song... 
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/12 23:44:24 (permalink)
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My excuse, whether it's true or not, is that it's getting to be summer. I don't have any A/C. In order to make sure the place is cool enough to sleep at night, I have to get the fans going and keep the doors and windows open.
Oh man, I remember growing up with no AC. We lived about 1,000 feet from the Delaware River in NJ. If it was a dry summer and the river was low the smell and humidity was horrific.


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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/12 23:51:43 (permalink)
New Jersey? It's the Garden State... And it smells like a garden? When you're coming up 95? When you see the sign that says "Welcome to New Jersey?" I like to throw the window down... Put my head out? And TAKE IN A DEEP WIFF OF THAT NEW JERSEY GARDEN SMELL!! Ahhhhh, smells like? "wait for it...." Victory...

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 01:06:46 (permalink)
+1 all:

Yeah, Robby, N.J. smells great in the fall ... the leaves and all.

I try not to invade the forum with every 2 cent song-child ... but wish to reciprocate you other prescious listeners (you know who you are).  Your time on this earth is extremely valuable to me.

Again, the greatest insult I feel is when one of you does not crit my latest song-child ... month after month ... year after year.  That may be neurotic, but I'd bet most of you feel exactly like I do in this regard. 

Or you/I poured your heart to perform/collab with another ... just to be diss'd by your collab partner(s) ... ha ha!  OK, but that also prevents many of one-another's productions.  But, at least we learn who our best collab friends really are and our singing gets better regardless!

Techniques forum is almost as helpful to me as Songs forum ... where some of 'us' are less *shy* about throwing our song-ideas out to be trampled upon by my indiscrete notions. 

Either way, we are fixing/perfecting our songs by loving dialogue, I'd hope. 

BTW Robby, I got your comp-duck notion working well on my kick & bass ... with Sonitus Compressor (last night on a tinny mix) and am keeping it.  I suppose I'll bounce the bass track (compressed) and try side chaining the comp again with different attack release settings.

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 01:27:43 (permalink)
Janet: you're soo awesome! Thanks...maybe someday I'll share a few things...even if just for you. :) I got a load of stuff I've been cooking up...I just have to get the chance to finish it. Maybe I'll post up some of my cover band material when that gets done. We really are doing a fabulous job with our Van Halen tribute stuff. I know that may not be stuff that many may like as opposed to originals, but I'm pretty proud of how authentic it's turning out. It's been more of a challenge than I thought it would be...but the more I get into it, the more I seem to strive to perfect it...which is a waste probably, but I never tried to nail something this exact before. :)

Hmm you guys must be talking about North Jersey because we sure don't get that smell in my area here in South J thankfully. :) The only things I smell outside are usually me because, well, I take pride in my personal aroma...lol...and we get this continuous smell of honey suckles around here all the time. Ever since my mom passed away I think it was her gift to us or something because I don't recall smelling this as often. Most times you'll smell freshly cut grass or the smells of the forrest around here. :)

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 01:39:07 (permalink)
They plant honeysuckle in a lot of the little slots in the sidewalk along the roads all around my neighborhood and apartment complex. Around this time of year sometimes you'll just get an incredible burst of it as you walk along. Particularly after it cools down in the evening.

I'm not complaining too much about the heat or anything. I live in the Silicon Valley area, probably I guess a mile and a half as the crow flies from the southernmost tip of the bay. So it's very mild around here almost all the time. But, you get used to it being mild, so when it gets hot for a few days in a row it starts to become a problem, particularly at night sleeping.

The first day it's ok because everything in the apartment is still nice and cool. Then the second day it starts to get a little rough towards the end of the day and doesn't cool down enough by night to sleep well. The third day I'm cursing my fate and barely sleeping, because I live in an apartment complex and beside a (small) highway, and having to keep the windows open makes it hard to sleep.

But, finally the big air conditioner in the sky kicks back in and it's like aahhhhhh.... And it literally feels like that. The cool air flowing off the bay. We get the hot spells when it stops now and again. Then you'll be sitting on the patio sweating at the end of the day and suddenly it's like someone turned on a huge air conditioner just down the road.

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 02:12:56 (permalink)
Dean don't you have AC man? I don't think I'd be able to sleep without it. One thing that never worked for me was sleeping while I was hot or sweaty. I have central air in my studio but of course that can get super pricey especially when I have all the gear on. My studio will get up to like 80 degrees or higher and it gets a bit tough to work in like that and to be honest, I never let it get that hot anymore because it just feels uncomfortable. So I was stuck with a $600 electric bill. LOL! But that got old and a friend of mine told me about those little AC units on wheels that look like R2D2....ever see those?

Well I got one for here and it's absolutely amazing! A bit loud, but it's so far away from me (in a closet with a hose hooked up to it that sends into my central ducts) I can't hear it and it cools this place really well. It's cut my electric bill down from $600-$700 to $250-$300 and I use it everyday keeping the room at 71 degrees. It runs from 6 pm until 10 am most times and has fan and dehumidifier features built into it. If you ran it just when you slept, it would probably cost you close to nothing to have. I've been using it for nearly 2 years now and it's amazing. Something worth checking out....it plugs into a normal socket, doesn't need to be cleaned or emptied and you just wash the filter or change it every 3 months or so. It has a little window kit that comes with it...you slide it in, close the window, hook up the hose and you're done. I think it was like $350 with shipping included and looks like a high tech kitchen waste can. LOL! If you're interested, let me know and I'll give you the details more in depth. :)

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 02:13:37 (permalink)
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+1 all:

Yeah, Robby, N.J. smells great in the fall ... the leaves and all.
I miss that a lot.

Out here in Iowa (the land of wind and hog $hit as I lovingly nicknamed it), we don't get very many nose friendly aromas. But right now the corn is chin high and when I sit on my back porch and close my eyes while the wind's blowing, it sounds like I'm at the shore from the corn stalks brushing against each other in the wind.

I was very fortunate to live on a 200+ acre farm in NJ for many years. We rented the farm house and the owner lived a mile or so away. I was surrounded by pines and forest in my own private world. The house had a huge fireplace the owner built from stones he pulled out of the fields. There was small lake we went fishing in. Not many private places left like that in NJ. His son is a raging alcoholic and will probably lose it one day when he inherits it.

Getting OT ... sorry.

I've replied to a ton of posts in the song forum tonight. You guys gotta check out Ben's When I Was Born ... it is awesome! He posted 2 songs in the same thread and you will want to skip the first song if you don't like blue material (it's really good too though).

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 02:29:26 (permalink)
Danny Danzi

It's cut my electric bill down from $600-$700 to $250-$300 and I use it everyday keeping the room at 71 degrees.
Holy Mother of God Danny! $700 a month!? $300 a month!?

I get pissed if my electric bill is over $100. My electric and natural gas together in the dead of winter when it's -20 here is only $250.

Damn!

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 04:50:29 (permalink)
Yeah Bub, it's horrible what they've done to this place since you left. You got out at a good time, that's for sure. Everything is so high man, it's just nuts. When the central air goes on, that's what kills me the most. I have my house set at 77 so it's realistically 75 there....bill is like $250-$300 in the summer, $180-$190 in the dead of winter. In the studio however, because I run all the gear and the air sooo long with the hours I keep, it gets nuts especially keeping it at a solid 71 degrees. I'm definitely not proud of that bill, that's for sure. But I use very little heat in the winter in the studio other than to heat the other rooms when people are here.

When I'm just working myself in the control room, the computers keep the place nice and warm believe it or not. But heck man, even our property taxes are pure insanity. Up to $2000 per quarter now. I have another house that's worth way more than this one in Florida that only costs me $1200 per year in prop taxes. It just don't make sense. Yeah, between phones and electric bills....I'm an absolute loser. LOL! I've tried so hard to cut the costs when possible and even switched to a new electric carrier that promised to save me money....wound up paying more and going back to the other company. With phones, (2 house phones one I got for my dad, 2 cell phones one for dad, 1 business line) I need scopes/international calling plans on my business line and cell, that gets nuts too. But as long as I keep the business where it is thank God, I'm ok...for now. LOL!

Mmm, Iowa...I loved it there. Had a girl I used to fly out and see 2 times per month in Cedar Rapids then she moved to Vinton I think it was. I really loved it there and nearly stayed....those tornado things were a bit much for me though. I'm not afraid of anything....except for tornados because I'm so afraid of losing my life, house, gear etc and bee's because I got about 12 minutes to live if I'm stung. LOL! You should see me throwing kicks and punches when a bee comes around me...it's the funniest thing man. I used to get called "the bee boxing champ". I must have punched, kicked, swatted, head-butted thousands of them through the years just about always knocking them out. There was this one though...he just couldn't be hit...he must have been laughin his lil butt off at me....I got so frustrated, I yelled at him like a banshee....dude seized the moment and flew in my mouth at that exact second. LMAO!!!! I spit him out before he bit me, then we both ran. LOL!

Sorry, I'm horribly off topic now...maybe I'll stfu and post a song or something. :)

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 05:08:37 (permalink)
Yep, I agree with most of the possible explanations in this thread.  For the three years that I've been on here, I've noticed that during July and August activity in the songs forum usually takes a drastic nosedive.

I always attributed it to vacations, outdoor summer activities and people catching up with "real life" stuff.

All I can say is that this is truly a great place to get helpful advice and input from many knowledgeable and generous people.  I try to learn something from every comment that I receive, be it good, bad, ugly, encouraging or indifferent.  Just the fact that somebody actually took time from their busy day to listen and make a comment matters a great deal to me, and shows what a valuable resource this forum really is.

Have a good one, guys!
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 07:39:31 (permalink)
Well, here I go with my 2cents......I like many have not been able to get here much with new job and life stuff in general. Anyway what I think is KILLING this forum and keep in mind this is my personal opinion....There is too much "Hey I posted on your song you better post on mine going on" I myself feel pressured to write something on certain threads that I could not possibly have anything constructive to say but well just do it or I`ll feel like I`m an outsider. Some people here have to remember that we are amateurs posting here and I believe some may not feel like posting because they don`t have the credentials or experience to post on a thread. I myself don`t feel I have the full knowledge and therefore usually just post hey I liked that or that was cool or something like that...And too me that`s not constructive help it`s just a slight help someones EGO boost.... and lastly it is real hard to actually take in any of the constructive stuff here because there are so many different people ...who like different things ...I mean some people would let you know you have too much compression when others say there`s not enough...you get what I mean......Recording, Mixing and Mastering are all SUBJECTIVE...So find out what you like and do it ... sometimes I find the FORUM a bit too much too handle ...And I know there`s a song in that somewhere LOL!!!!!!


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because he knows the time is short.....
let him who hath understanding.....
reckon the number of the beast.....
for it is a human number...
it`s number is.....
666

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 11:25:31 (permalink)
I was quite addicted to the forums a few months ago but even then I did not review enough songs, I always appreciate comments on my stuff so enough said...I'm going to listen and comment on some more threads, that is my own personal answer from within. SONAR X1 Rocks.

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 15:41:19 (permalink)
Last rites because songs aren't moving off of the first page fast enough? That seems a bit extreme. I would think that the longer a song is on the first page the more likely it is that more people will listen to it. isn't that a good thing? Regarding an assumed obligation to comment on other people's song if you post one, I comment more when I've posted a song because I think it's the polite thing to do and I know how rewarding it can be to get constructive feedback. If I want that feedback I do feel an obligation to give that back to the forum.

I would comment a lot more but, frankly, sometimes I hear a song and I just don't know what to say about it. Plus I know that I'll say something like "that was a cool song" and then somebody else will break the song down and make comments like "you need to raise/lower the 6 kHz-8.5 kHz frequencies on your closed high hat 2db" and then I feel silly and pointless. Why can't I hear these things? Then I get depressed and eat ice cream and donuts while I watch TV. Then I go to sleep and have nightmares about people making fun of my comments.
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 15:45:42 (permalink)
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Last rites because songs aren't moving off of the first page fast enough? That seems a bit extreme. 

No, not at all...rather that the bottom of the first page had posts that were over a week old. Thus not a lot of posting action overall. There are plenty of days where the last post of the first page is only ten or so hours old.
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 15:46:33 (permalink)
That's exactly how I feel.  :( 

No wonder I'm gaining weight. 

But hey, someone's gotta say 'atta boy' or 'atta girl' so I guess it will be you and me.  :)
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 15:54:23 (permalink)
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Chappel


Last rites because songs aren't moving off of the first page fast enough? That seems a bit extreme. 

No, not at all...rather that the bottom of the first page had posts that were over a week old. Thus not a lot of posting action overall. There are plenty of days where the last post of the first page is only ten or so hours old.


So you think it's better that more songs are posted rather than the songs that are posted being listened to by more people?
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 16:16:20 (permalink)
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Chappel


Last rites because songs aren't moving off of the first page fast enough? That seems a bit extreme. 

No, not at all...rather that the bottom of the first page had posts that were over a week old. Thus not a lot of posting action overall. There are plenty of days where the last post of the first page is only ten or so hours old.


So you think it's better that more songs are posted rather than the songs that are posted being listened to by more people?
You have it all wrong...I think it is a better thing when more people are posting more often. What I am pointing out is a lack of posting, and I am not saying anything about more songs/less songs.

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 16:17:13 (permalink)
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Chappel


Last rites because songs aren't moving off of the first page fast enough? That seems a bit extreme. 

No, not at all...rather that the bottom of the first page had posts that were over a week old. Thus not a lot of posting action overall. There are plenty of days where the last post of the first page is only ten or so hours old.


So you think it's better that more songs are posted rather than the songs that are posted being listened to by more people?


no, I don't think he's saying that either.  I think he's saying that there are very few people posting in the songs forum period compared to "normal."  in the past there have been both a lot of new posts AND a lot of comment/reply posts.  right now this forum is barely more active than the SONAR STUDIO AND PRODUCER forum. 

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 16:48:21 (permalink)
I feel like Chappel in regards to the song forum. I tend to post more when I have posted a song.
I want to reply to every person that has taken the time to give a listen. To post here and not comment on other peoples songs is not right, as far as being a contributor to the forum, but to not reply to the people that have responded to your song in a post is really wrong to me. I have listened to posts and have thought (just an example) that  "this would cook if the timing were tighter" as I listened. Then I read what others have had to say, and everyone loved it. Now it could be that my listening has gotten better, (doubt it) or honesty is selective, depending on who's posting. This keeps my tongue in my cheek often. But I do comment on others work more than I post my own songs. Not that my post count shows it. LOL
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 17:06:11 (permalink)
I tend to post if I have the time and inclination that perhaps I can point out something about the mix or something else that may or may not agree with the person doing the work in the first place. Plus the fact that I feel awkward about posting about a song, because I may not have the knowledge to know what that person was doing with the song in the first place. I mean, they (whomever wrote the song and performed) should to me at least have a better idea than perhaps I can on what they wanted to achieve with the song in the first place. I would hope that people posting a song here know somewhat what they are doing, so the only thing is listening to it perhaps with different speakers or headphones and well, you know that everything sounds different and people have their personal choices in gear anyway.
 To me to post the about the same thing - it sound alright - ya, I like that, or wow that was spot on, or anything else, just seems to make me want to shy away from posting at all.
Am I suppose to post something that on a forum where people are suppose to be nice and state:
I do not like the song and further perhaps you should stick your head in the toilet. No, I am not going to post anything like that, so there is only a limited response to give anyway.

You might as well have a gigantic jam session where someone downloads the song and adds a part to it, and in the end, a lot of people contribute something to the song and everyone can listen to it then.
Oh, well, back to square one and trying to play musically anything in the first place.
And very few people would probably want to spend the time on anything like that anyway.
Well, I got other work to do, so enough of my babbling on and on.

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/13 17:10:49 (permalink)
And there are some songs posted that play in Quicktime or something similar, which do not sound good when listening to them. (clicks, pops, and generally not as good as some other places.)

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/14 10:25:07 (permalink)
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/14 10:59:03 (permalink)
I keep getting messages like "this webpage is not responding"
It sucks all the fun out of it for me...
I'd post here more often if it weren't such a pain in the ass...

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/14 11:34:50 (permalink)
Anyone started writing that requiem yet?
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/14 11:48:56 (permalink)
morenoise


Anyone started writing that requiem yet?


Ha!... that would make an interesting collaborative project.
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/14 12:27:59 (permalink)
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morenoise


Anyone started writing that requiem yet?


Ha!... that would make an interesting collaborative project.


actually, the last forum collab may have been the reaper's axe...so bowel-shudderingly awful even the magic ways of mr yoyo couldn't save it, apparently...

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/14 12:30:17 (permalink)
and we go in cycles, i used to comment on almost every single song, but i don't spend much time here now tbh, i will comment on certain member's stuff, eg Philip, James, DT, SMB and CHB, along with a few others, but i'm sure that might change in the future and i'll be back more often...

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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/17 00:45:58 (permalink)
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I feel like Chappel in regards to the song forum. I tend to post more when I have posted a song.
I want to reply to every person that has taken the time to give a listen. To post here and not comment on other peoples songs is not right, as far as being a contributor to the forum, but to not reply to the people that have responded to your song in a post is really wrong to me. I have listened to posts and have thought (just an example) that  "this would cook if the timing were tighter" as I listened. Then I read what others have had to say, and everyone loved it. Now it could be that my listening has gotten better, (doubt it) or honesty is selective, depending on who's posting. This keeps my tongue in my cheek often. But I do comment on others work more than I post my own songs. Not that my post count shows it. LOL
Well spoken, IMHO.
 
So are MGH's creative comments. 
 
Mark, I always appreciate your songs, faithfulness, and frankness to us desperate artists.  Hopefully, God will bless me to collab with you someday.
 
All of us are fluked at times but I 'think' I know which artists *deserve* attention, even if I'm on their diss lists ... haha!
 
A lot of music (mine and everyone's) is fake and bake. 
 
Paradigms change, commercials suck for me.  Covers are an embarrassment.  I'd be afraid to submit a song sounding like a paradigmic commercial. 
 
Most of you have a conscience and prefer not to intrude your songs unless they are 'special'

Philip  
(Isa 5:12 And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the LORD)

Raised-Again 3http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12307501
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Re:Cakewalk Songs Forum: Should someone administer Last Rites? 2011/07/17 02:00:52 (permalink)
mgh


Chappel


morenoise


Anyone started writing that requiem yet?


Ha!... that would make an interesting collaborative project.


actually, the last forum collab may have been the reaper's axe...so bowel-shudderingly awful even the magic ways of mr yoyo couldn't save it, apparently...


Collaborations are hard. My one experience trying to work with someone here ended up with my work being ignored and my PM's unanswered. That was sure a waste of my time.
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