ooblecaboodle
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 11:35:03
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Interesting it was using an Apple that got us thrown out of the garden of eden in the first place.
If Adam had just stuck to XP, but nooooo he just had to use iLife and ruin it for us all. don't be so stupid you ignorant fool. XP wasn't around then, it would have been DOS! 
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gordonrussell76
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 11:49:14
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Well seeing as i started out on Sinclair, then a BBC Basic, then and Archimedes 3000, and then gasp a 486 lol
Oh those were the days
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gordonrussell76
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 11:53:40
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Apple Zealot "Oh yes I use an apple becuase i am the coolest". Sadly no, you are just as much a sheep as anyone else, deal with it.
Its like punks, (not that they exist anymore, listening to blink 182 and avril Lavigne a punk does not you make) they wan't to be different, and yet they all wear a uniform. Being truly individual is going to a Sex pistols gig in a pair of chinos, brown brogues and a nice blue shirt.
So in conclusion;
Windows, the anarchists choice.
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gordonrussell76
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 11:59:38
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stevec
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 12:10:52
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwy4R8DfOT4 "Her breath smells funny", "I want you to shoot your download all over my laptop"... Priceless.
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axe
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 12:55:05
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wogg
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 14:23:43
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You have very funny interpretations of things... "I believe that, fundamentally, people who produce content and who own the rights to that content deserve the opportunity to make their own decisions about how they want to provide that content to the public." Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
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jinga8
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 14:54:46
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The commercial success of the nifty player has reached beyond urban hipsters to encompass Britain's Queen Elizabeth II and US President George W. Bush, both of whom are reported to own iPods. NOT Urban Hipsters? HA! I saw them gettin' funkified together just last Friday at the Seligman and Sons Warehouse rave...I left at 6am, but Lizzy and G. Dog were still poundin down the sound... 
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stevec
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 15:12:05
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Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Uhhh... yeah!  I wonder if Axe just expects no one to read it, giving the impression that it's actually something anti-Microsoft. Like, for example, the first two paragraphs: MICROSOFT'S top lawyer has warned Apple not to complain too loudly to record labels about music copyright restrictions, saying the computer giant was already selling plenty of iPod music players. "I'm not a big believer in just blaming the music industry for Apple's inability to sell every conceivable iPod," said Brad Smith, senior vice-president and general counsel at the US software giant.
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bigweb
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 17:28:24
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ORIGINAL: axe
Do you actually have something to contribute to this discussion? Or are you intent to continue making a fool of yourself? I contributed this:
Back in 1997 just after Steve Jobs returned to Apple after it had almost gone broke, it was a certain Mr Bill Gates who made a small but important investment that brought Apple back from the brink.... Only $150 million US but it saved Apple from extinction. Here's what Steve Jobs himself said about that investment. "We have to let go of the notion that in order for Apple to win,
Microsoft has to lose," he told the shocked crowd at the MacWorld
Expo show.
"The era of setting this up as a competition between Apple and
Microsoft is over as far as I'm concerned." LINK 1 LINK 2 LINK 3
But you never replied.
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D.Triny
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 19:42:52
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MICROSOFT'S top lawyer has warned Apple not to complain too loudly to record labels about music copyright restrictions, saying the computer giant was already selling plenty of iPod music players. I think the point would be that yes Apple is selling plenty of iPod music players. The labels on the other hand, say they are not selling enough digital music to offset the rapid decline in the sales of physical media. So the loosening of copyright restrictions is an attempt to help them increase digital sales. I find it's a risky move, but certainly there have been enough complaints about DRM to make me wonder why all of the sudden removing it is a bad thing.....and this forum has usually been pretty anti-DRM. I would like to see the EMI experiment playout. Then if all goes well, then downloads are DRM free, but streaming remains DRM-enabled. I would also like to see Zune and Zune Marketplace step up and give iPod+iTunes some real competition
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bigweb
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 19:57:29
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Yeah I thought it was weird for Brad Smith to come out with that statement. Why would it bother them if DRM was abandoned? Makes you wonder what other vested interests Microsoft have in the music industry.
post edited by bigweb - 2007/04/17 19:59:33
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bigweb
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 20:11:00
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ORIGINAL: stevec
Uhhh... yeah! I wonder if Axe just expects no one to read it I think it's pretty obvious by now that Axe actually is not the smartest brick in the wall, by a long shot... I mean he even confused posting here with "sending emails". And he has so obviously blocked anyone with a credible argument against his ideas... which is a big sign of lack of intellectual capacity IMHO. For many people Macs are ideal. Just like automatic cars are fine for some ... but others prefer manuals. To take the car analogy a bit further: Some people like to just get in and drive and refer any problems to their mechanic. Others like to get down and dirty under the hood. Neither camp is better or worse or smarter or dumber than the other. It's just personal preference, time constraints etc etc etc Quite a few people I know who run both PCs and Macs, rely on friends to help them with "geeky" stuff. If it weren't for the geeks most people would be lost. Or have to pay through the nose. I truly believe Axe has done more in this and other threads to turn people away from Macs rather than attract them to the platform.
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axe
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 20:20:42
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ORIGINAL: stevec
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
Uhhh... yeah! I wonder if Axe just expects no one to read it, giving the impression that it's actually something anti-Microsoft. Like, for example, the first two paragraphs:
MICROSOFT'S top lawyer has warned Apple not to complain too loudly to record labels about music copyright restrictions, saying the computer giant was already selling plenty of iPod music players.
"I'm not a big believer in just blaming the music industry for Apple's inability to sell every conceivable iPod," said Brad Smith, senior vice-president and general counsel at the US software giant.
If stop, read this and actually think about what you just posted you will be embarrassed at what you just posted. You are actually saying that you support DRM and support its use. Of course the other question is do you actually know what DRM is? Yes ... you look foolish Think before you post
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bigweb
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 20:24:31
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Like I said....
Not the smartest brick in the wall...
And have you noticed how his posts have degenerated into personal attacks now?
Dumb & Dumber.
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vintagevibe
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 20:54:26
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ORIGINAL: bigweb
Like I said....
Not the smartest brick in the wall...
And have you noticed how his posts have degenerated into personal attacks now?
It would be best if everyone just didn't respond. We're not dealing with an adult here. Let's let this thread die.
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bigweb
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 21:02:41
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ORIGINAL: vintagevibe
It would be best if everyone just didn't respond. We're not dealing with an adult here. Let's let this thread die. hehehe You just contradicted your own theory by posting here. Be aware that Axe has said he's blocked me, so, if that's true, he can't see anything I post here.
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SvenArne
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 22:04:33
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Newsflash, Axe: It's not about Apple, it's about you! No one here really thinks that Macs (or Intel Macs) suck or that OSX isn't a cleverly concieved OS! Shayne White said this on page 4 of the "Port to Linux" thread: Mac OS X is the best OS around and is just waiting to be able to run the best DAW software around (Sonar). He came out of the blue, stated his opinion and then let it go. No one attacked him, can you believe it? And I'm willing to bet that no one even sat at their desk thinking "well this is just your average ignorant Mac-lover"! It's your persistient Apple brouchure wielding missionary personality that's lead to some of our regular posters making it their personal crusade to try and make you see what an idiot you are! The long, aggressive arguments that reasonable posters like JB and D. Triny have gotten into with Ooblecaboodle, Bigweb/Fretwizz, Undertow and others would never have taken place if they'd just stated their opinions somewhere else rather than defending you in your threads! You're like a detonator for all kinds of flame wars! You're already a legend on this forum and you will most probably remain an humorous offbeat reference for years to come (together with another legend, Shea). Your work here is done! Rid this forum of your profile and come back with another when you're ready to contribute with something more constructive (as I know you've done previously, before you accepted the missionary legacy). Sven Technique: Karate Blood Type: A Likes: Macs AND Windows PCs Tired of: Axe
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vintagevibe
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 22:50:15
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ORIGINAL: bigweb
ORIGINAL: vintagevibe
It would be best if everyone just didn't respond. We're not dealing with an adult here. Let's let this thread die.
hehehe
You just contradicted your own theory by posting here.
No. I didn't say you shouldn't post - just not respond to Axe. This was a perfectly good topic until he hijacecked it. If we don't respond to this troll perhaps the next post won't be hijacked.
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Mick
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 23:07:58
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Axe is the one that posted the topic in the first place. ORIGINAL: vintagevibe
ORIGINAL: bigweb
ORIGINAL: vintagevibe
It would be best if everyone just didn't respond. We're not dealing with an adult here. Let's let this thread die.
hehehe
You just contradicted your own theory by posting here.
No. I didn't say you shouldn't post - just not respond to Axe. This was a perfectly good topic until he hijacecked it. If we don't respond to this troll perhaps the next post won't be hijacked.
I have not changed my signature.
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stevec
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/17 23:10:29
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It would be best if everyone just didn't respond. We're not dealing with an adult here. Let's let this thread die. Given how Axe's responses have really degenerated even further as he/she goes along, leaving no real "content" anymore, I have to admit that I agree. I mean, it's not as though anyone can't figure out what the response is likely to be anyway. It's been fun...
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ooblecaboodle
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/18 04:20:21
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oh, come on, maybe he'll explode!
However, it is tiring, that he seems to believe he's 'won' the argument, and somehow 'bruised our egos' etc - When in fact nothing could be further from the truth. He is just embarrasing himself.
I do imagine howver, that if he was to carry out his current level of discourse in a face to face situation, he would have been introduced to the concept of concussion by a facefull of fist by now. The thing is, this is an online forum, if we get tired of him, we just stop paying attention!
But he seems to have run out of ideas anyhow. I used to check back here regularly for a giggle, but now I'm just bored, waiting for any new material from him.
Come on axe!! Don't tell me your Al Murray routine's finished!
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gordonrussell76
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/18 05:44:14
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Okay seeing as this thread is basically a load of old tosh, lets play a game.
Its called historical/fictional figures, what operating system would they favour.
Here is a little list as a starter for 10 with my opinions. Feel free to comment and add your own characters.
Stalin - UNix
Bill Clinton - MAC
Indiana Jones - Windows
Luke Skywalker - Windows
Judge Dredd - unix
Keanu Reeves - MAC
Neo from the Matrix - UNix
Etc,
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SvenArne
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/18 05:50:18
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Judge Dredd is a conformist. I'm sure he'd be using Windows.
Sven
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gordonrussell76
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/18 05:52:09
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Bill Gates - MAC
Steve Jobs - Windows.
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ooblecaboodle
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/18 07:50:26
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ORIGINAL: gordonrussell76
Okay seeing as this thread is basically a load of old tosh, lets play a game.
Its called historical/fictional figures, what operating system would they favour.
Here is a little list as a starter for 10 with my opinions. Feel free to comment and add your own characters.
Stalin - UNix
Bill Clinton - MAC
Indiana Jones - Windows
Luke Skywalker - Windows
Judge Dredd - unix
Keanu Reeves - MAC
Neo from the Matrix - UNix
Etc,
I would have guessed that Stalin would be using GNU-Linux! Tony Blair - Doesn't know, just bought it from a catalogue. Greenpeace - abacus
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jinga8
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/18 09:10:57
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Prince - Little Red Ha-at (clap, clap)
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ooblecaboodle
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/18 09:29:44
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And of course, Satan would use FreeBSD, because of the Daemon logo!
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D.Triny
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/18 14:05:40
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The long, aggressive arguments that reasonable posters like JB and D. Triny have gotten into with Ooblecaboodle, Bigweb/Fretwizz, Undertow and others would never have taken place if they'd just stated their opinions somewhere else rather than defending you in your threads! possibly, but despite his confrontational style, most his basic message is not all that difficult to find elsewhere. The nastiness is unfortunate, but also not unprecedented I haven't been sweating it that much here's something recently posted by Paul Thurrott (news editor for Windows IT Pro)
With less than 3 percent of the market for computers worldwide, Mac OS X and the hardware it runs on might not seem a viable alternative to the Windows hegemony that most of us simply take for granted. Nothing could be further from the truth: Macs offer the best of both worlds, giving you the ability to run both Windows—with its huge software and games libraries—and Mac OS X—with its better security and iLife solutions—side by side on the same hardware. You might argue that a Mac is, in fact, the ultimate PC, simply because it can do so much more than other PCs. I believe this to be the case for many users.
and
All Macs share certain characteristics. They're incredibly well made, beautiful to look at, and generally devoid of any extraneous ports and other doo-dads. This can be bad in some ways—for example, you'll never find a useful Flash RAM reader on a Mac—but for those who appreciate design, Macs are top-notch. All Macs come with Mac OS X and Apple's highly valued iLife suite of digital media applications. In some ways, iLife is reason enough to own a Mac: There's nothing like iLife on the PC side. Mac OS X isn't as full-featured as Vista, but it's also a lot less busy looking and serene in nature. Aimed more at technical users than consumers, Mac OS X isn't so much friendly as it is austere and Spartan. But once you master its quirks, you'll find you can be as productive as you are in Windows.
from: http://www.connectedhomemag.com/HomeOffice/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=95805 for the most part I think the majority of the posters in this forum can appreciate the value of both Windows and MAC. It's just that until recently there was the slight possibility that Cakewalk could port SONAR to OSX. Now that it's been confirmed that this will not happen, lobbying would be a waste of time...but the idea that a MAC could (via bootcamp) be a good alternative for SONARites is still worthwhile for those so inclined to propogate. But it's not something I'd prefer to spend energy on.
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UnderTow
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RE: EMI dropping DRM - great news for us
2007/04/18 15:11:32
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ORIGINAL: ooblecaboodle
And of course, Satan would use FreeBSD, because of the Daemon logo!
Talking about FreeBSD... oh no. That should be in the other thread. Sonar ported to FreeBSD. UnderTiw
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