Beepster


If X2 NEEDS to run on Win 8 then I will most certainly not be buying X2. Just tossing that out there.

You won't have to worry about that.

Again, they seem to think that is a good idea to bring iPad functionality to the Mac... Why?

 
The iPad is in a league of its own, really.  I totally understand adding iPad touch functions to the Mac.  It makes sense and will probably be great.  Apple knows what it's doing.
 
Windows 8, on the other hand...I can see where they're trying to go, but it's just not happening.  It seems like Windows 7 finally got it right, just as technology is on the verge of changing again.  And as usual, Microsoft is a few steps behind.  Maybe in a few versions they'll manage to hammer out something likable.  But in the meantime, Apple will still lead the way. 
 
I wish Microsoft would stop trying to be Apple and just do what it's always done best: Versatile, nuts and bolts operating systems that put the power in the hands of the user.  Apple has always been top dog in user-friendly, stable systems.  But Microsoft gives us the ability to tinker, change, and customize our systems to meet our individual needs.  It's more prone to problems, but it's far more versatile for those who don't mind getting their hands dirty. 
 
I think in a few years most monitors will be touch-screen, although I do not believe they will replace the mouse.  Instead, they should compliment the keyboard/mouse with additional flexibility and control.  If the computer companies design their systems thinking touch-screen will be the primary method of navigation, I think they'll be making a huge mistake.  People don't want to have to reach out and touch their monitors to accomplish things.  It's a great option, but I don't see it as a practical, efficient or even comfortable style of interfacing with desktop computing.

More than half of the people in my organisation (and they number in the thousands) struggle to do anything more than the most basic of things using XP.

We are all upgrading to Win 7 later this year and I can foresee a HUGE learning curve for masses of people (which will also impact greatly on mine and several other "power users" time)

For them to have to adopt a touch screen approach would be like trying to teach calculus to a pet monkey - it just won't happen.

Think I will get one of these to use for the matrix view:
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Very well said Heather.  Windows is more fun when you're able to tinker with it.  Windows 8 is going the way of Windows ME for the new decade like Bitflipper pointed out. A lot of Windows users don't even have touchscreen monitors and it won't be until another 6-8 years until touchscreens become the norm, replacing non touchscreen monitors. Windows 8 is ahead of its time in that regard. 

Widows 7 should be improved upon without needing a complete makeover. I think it's safe to say that a lot of users will stick with Windows 7 until Windows 9 is out. Microsoft is smart though, they're releasing a version whether relevant or not to users to cash in with the new version and then will release Windows 9 similar to Windows 7 release right after Vista to please those users.

As far as X2 being touchscreen capable... a few users probably own a touchscreen monitor so it will be a nice feature for those users. But some people just prefer to use their mouse/keyboard, touchpad or tablet. So a Sonar touchscreen feature will not be a big selling feature for the next version or whichever version incorporates it.  As much as the marketing may hype this feature, you will still need Windows 8 and a touchscreen monitor. 

If X1 is to Windows 7, then X1 should continue to roll out fixes and enhancements but not overhauled like Microsoft's Windows 8.

So lets all hope X2 isn't coming out this year, right Beepster?

A touch screen is NOT required to use w8.

Yeah, Windows 7 is great. I'm not leaving it unless I have to, or something I really want requires an upgrade

Windows 8 is predicted to be Vista II.

I just hope they keep the option for support for W7 when 8 is properly released,like MS did with XP,when Vista was released[and many found XP superior at the time].

Personally,with the money invested in W7 and X1 Expanded,I DO NOT want X2,and hope to use W7 for the forseeable future.

Everything is [finally] running very smoothly,and don't want to go through a couple of new products[and their expense $$$]after only semi recently,dealing with the"too early" shortcomings of X1,and working out how to optimise an OS,not particularly implemented,just for Pro Audio.

This whole computer "Iv'e just bought it and in 3 months it's already out of date",mentality,is quite shocking to an old guitar player,who after 25years,got my hands on a Real Gibson Left Handed Les Paul,and was surprised that my old hacked up "Ibanez with a Seymour Duncan Humbucker and 25 year old[One of the First in OZ]Floyd Rose-fine tuner Locking Trem".,is actually a VERY good guitar,and the Gibson while beautifully made,with a very pure tone,is actually not the wonder machine,I thought -all these years,when I could never find a Left Handed one for less than 3 thousand plus.

Just MO,regards Bob.

@bobguit... I stopped chasing the top end guit dream pretty much immediately after owning a couple. Fortunately I managed to recoup most of my cash eventually. Now I'm all about Frankenguits. The only thing I think I'd pay full price for is an Ernie Ball Music Man EVH original. Even then those buggers are overpriced.

Many folks had and have perfectly good Vista implementations. Personally I by passed it and went XP -> 7. But that was just my upgrade cycle.

I've been evaluating moving my company's development effort to Win 8. It would be a big move and personally I have a hard time figuring out why I would other than at some point the software my team develops would be outdated and unsupportable. It is a devils bargain in my view.

But that is work and for my home studio based DAW I really can't see making the move to Win 8. X2...that will probably happen right off the bat but it will probably be installed on a secondary unit until I think it is ready for prime time.

Regards,

Beepster


@bobguit... I stopped chasing the top end guit dream pretty much immediately after owning a couple. Fortunately I managed to recoup most of my cash eventually. Now I'm all about Frankenguits. The only thing I think I'd pay full price for is an Ernie Ball Music Man EVH original. Even then those buggers are overpriced.

Hey Beep,I hear ya,my desktop picture is a L/H EVH[not the Ernie B.,do you think those are better?],and Sweetwater,have some L/H ones for $1499,instead of $3995.


I think some of the trouble with the gen.Les Paul,is I exclusively tune 1 semi-tone flat-Eb,and even with 11/52 it just doesn't play in-tune,like my Epiphone Chinese LP Custom,so I restrung it with 9/46 in A440,and it plays much nicer,but my FrankenIbanez,plays great no matter what tuning or guaging,must be something about the shorter scale length-24 3/4" instead of 25 1/2"?


Anyway,about Win8,I got a tip,that the co-orporate sector are going to avoid it at all costs[mainly cause their only just changing over to 7 though],and X2?,I wonder?.....silly me,since this is[computers/Daw's] is all only 1 year in,I forgot that the up-grade cost won't be like buying from scratch.


Cheers
Bob

John

Windows 8 is predicted to be Vista II.

If it is than I will be very happy. I love my Vista. Sadly after using the Win 8 preview its not Vista at all. :(


I hope MS sees the light and doesn't screw up a great OS.  Metro's usefulness to a desktop machine is very limited touch screen or no touch screen. 


I have an Android tablet and it works great for what I use it for. I don't need what it does on my desktop nor do I want it there. 

Hey John,my brother had no problem with Vista at all,though he was not doing Audio,mainly buisness,and script writing[TV],and W7 is very similar anyway,so I believe?


My sister is all about iPhones,and iPads,but I only use a mobile phone to phone for help, if the car breaks down[almost].


There was a guy over at GS,that's reported that W8,displays higher latency[quite a bit],but that could because the application is coded for 7 no?


Anyway,lately Im all about trying to find another Tannoy "Devon",as I've only just found out how expensive they go for as a pair,and I've had "1" only[unfortunately]and after,getting fatigued[very] with my KRK Rokits,I now realise why the old Tannoy sounded so superior,when I was told never use old stereo speaker's for "montoring",as they enhance the sound,and bought the KRK's,and have never been happy with them.


Apparently the Devon's were considered a studio monitor,and I never knew,I was given a set years ago,but one was blown,but Ive always thought "it" sounded special.


Regards
Bob

Beepster


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