(This is probably the most appropriate thread for this, I don't think I need to start a new one).
 
The tipping point for me came three weeks ago when I made this forum post: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Strange-linked-clips-behaviour-m2852454.aspx
 
...and also submitted a corresponding bug report to Cakewalk.  No response to either.  This particular bug, along with intermittent loop-timing issues and poor handling of notes which are orphaned when splitting clips (read: 'crazy behaviour') make using the application an exercise in teeth-grinding futility for me.  I'm tired of spending over an hour just trying to manipulate a single bar of music satisfactorily and giving up in frustration as a result.
 
So for the past couple of weeks I've been using FL Studio and have been having...fun.  Yes, fun.  It's made me realise that I haven't actually had fun with a piece of music software since Cubase 2 on the Atari STFM.  I certainly don't regret buying Sonar or supporting Cakewalk; at the very least I still get to use the fantastic set of synths and effects that ship with it.
 
If Cakewalk produce an X2b bug fix patch, which I hope they do, I'll certainly take a look.  I also hope that they decide to include functionality which really should be bog-standard in their flagship product; mp3 export comes to mind, for example.  However, if their next offering is a paid-for upgrade, I don't think I'll be tempted.

I'm wondering whether the lack of an X2b means Cake are writing new code for X3. Which could be good . . . or could be buggy bad!

brconflict

Lemonboy
I'm wondering whether the lack of an X2b means Cake are writing new code for X3. Which could be good . . . or could be buggy bad!

I know, you're in the dark on this one, too. Man, I feel ya, but at this point, I'm just going to accept whatever we get. It's not up to us what Cakewalk provides next. C'est la vie, my friends!

We all are.    I guess it's just a matter of one's fear of the dark.  
I'm looking forward to whatever comes next.   Although, I'm getting along well with X2 so I'm hoping there's little learning curve involved.   For whatever that's worth.
 

I'm working fine in X2a, just not using the all features I was sold.

Mentioning competitor software features as a comparison can be productive. But advertising competitors software here or trying to pursuade users to switch to a competitor software is low.

dorism

WDI
Mentioning competitor software features as a comparison can be productive. But advertising competitors software here or trying to pursuade users to switch to a competitor software is low.

How come? All of the debate has been extremely respectful I think? Its good insight for Cakewalk too. The fact that people are still contributing to this forum after switching to C7 shows they are still vested and hoping that Cakewalk produces a great release.

See the comments about logic on the previous page.

mike_mccue
"I remember investing a lot back in the early days in DXi - same deal. Its peculiar to Sonar and will have limited shelf life I suspect as no one supports the format. I had to buy a lot of plugins later in VST. Very annoying."
 
 
What is really annoying is that the very same company that promoted the DX format plug ins will not sell its Producer licensees the versatile and useful 64bit Sonnitus VSTs that they include with the SONAR Studio package.
 
You can buy an extra copy of SONAR Studio if you want to upgrade your Sonnitus VST to 64bit but you can't buy the 64bit VSTs separately the way you can buy the Pro Channel cripple ware.
 
I've been thinking of buying a used copy of SONAR X1 Studio on eBay just to get the 64bit Sonnitus VSTs for use with Studio One (x64).

Mike,
 
If you install the 64-bit version of SONAR you will get the 64-bit DXi's of Sonitus.

If you install the 32-bit version of SONAR you will get the 32-bit DXi's of Sonitus.
 
The VST versions of the Sonitus:fx Suite, available at our webstore are 32-bit. There has never been 64-bit versions of these plug-ins.
 
You are probably basing your erroneous info off the poorly worded webstore description. It forgets to mention that only the DXi versions are included with SONAR Studio.

Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]

mike_mccue
"I remember investing a lot back in the early days in DXi - same deal. Its peculiar to Sonar and will have limited shelf life I suspect as no one supports the format. I had to buy a lot of plugins later in VST. Very annoying."
 
 
What is really annoying is that the very same company that promoted the DX format plug ins will not sell its Producer licensees the versatile and useful 64bit Sonnitus VSTs that they include with the SONAR Studio package.
 
You can buy an extra copy of SONAR Studio if you want to upgrade your Sonnitus VST to 64bit but you can't buy the 64bit VSTs separately the way you can buy the Pro Channel cripple ware.
 
I've been thinking of buying a used copy of SONAR X1 Studio on eBay just to get the 64bit Sonnitus VSTs for use with Studio One (x64).

Mike,
 
If you install the 64-bit version of SONAR you will get the 64-bit DXi's of Sonitus.

If you install the 32-bit version of SONAR you will get the 32-bit DXi's of Sonitus.
 
The VST versions of the Sonitus:fx Suite, available at our webstore are 32-bit. There has never been 64-bit versions of these plug-ins.
 
You are probably basing your erroneous info off the poorly worded webstore description. It forgets to mention that only the DXi versions are included with SONAR Studio.

Cheers for the clarification Seth, Appreciated.

Welp, they're going to have to have something done by NAMM 2014, which isn't a warm thought, but my money is on that.  My gut tells me X2b is a dead issue and we're going to have to move on past that.

brconflict
 My gut tells me X2b is a dead issue and we're going to have to move on past that.

My gut tells me it will be business as usual like with X1 & X2.
A new version released along with new bugs & issues.

nevermind....

Guitarpima
I think the Sonar X series is sending subliminal messages to everyone. That's why they took our colors away. Some are easily controlled and some are fighting it. Upgrade! Upgrade! Upgrade! It's the only way you will be happy being sad about not being happy while your sad. I feel the Xanax subscription rate will increase as Obama Care makes it easier to get you daily dose of the next Ugrade! Upgrade! Upgrade! It's all plagal to me. ;-)
 
In all seriousness though, the X series is a nightmare. I like the screensets, the take lanes will be cool when, and if they ever, work. The PC is nice but this has to be the oddest upgrade ever. Strange draw issues that don't seem to affect the program but offer a, "what the", which can be amusing or not. Sometimes it sounds like your keying a CB off and on when you start or stop. I've tried everything for that and found the happy medium. It doesn't happen all the time but can be embarrassing.
 
Does anyone remember Eliot Carver? "Make sure the software is full of bugs! They'll be upgrading for years".

The graphical glitches! Arrgh. It's the software equivalent of closing a car door and it sounds really tinny - it just makes you wonder how well screwed together this baby is.
The 2 killers for me were the 'Mexican wave glitch' rippling down my track view when I solo'd or muted a track and the crazy jumping clip issue where it refused to go where I wanted. Must be my graphics card.