Lenses what do you think about them?

I'm looking at the new help for Sonar 2016.11 and one of the new features are lenses. Apparently the name is changed from Workspaces to Lenses. Because I have Sonar Home Studio I am looking at the ones in it. Sonar Platinum may have them by the end of this month.
 
At present I don't see a huge difference from Screensets except Lenses are global. They can be applied to all projects. Home studio has a limited set that can not be edited where Sonar Platinum and Professional are user editable. More can be created other the stock ones included.  Sort of have it your way.  I don't know if there is a limit on how many can be created. Also a lens Manager is included with Platinum and Pro.
 
I know its early but just wondering what the forum thinks. 

John
 
At present I don't see a huge difference from Screensets except Lenses are global. They can be applied to all projects.

 
That alone would be pretty huge for my workflow as at present I have to save each project with a particular screenset active in order from it to open correctly in the playlist, depending on how many screens I am using for live performance. If I could apply a 'lense' globally would be awesome!

Cool John. Really looking forward to giving them a spin:)
 

John ,
The Lenses , are they along the lines of how Samplitude handles personal work-spaces ? or are The Lenses it's own type of SONAR thing for creating personal work spaces ?
 
Kenny

I have to make my own before they will be useful, but I think I'll like them in the end.

Haven't posted in a while...
 
Lenses: Instant Winner!  
 
'nuff said.

pwalpwal
can someone explain how lenses differ from screensets - are they global screensets or is there more to it than that?

https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=NewFeatures.003.html

pwalpwal
can someone explain how lenses differ from screensets - are they global screensets or is there more to it than that?

To me they appear to be about reducing clutter. One can show only what is needed for a particular task. Reducing the modules in the Control bar for example. They are not so much about having various views at ones disposal. Though screensets work along side lenses. Possibly the single most important thing about lenses is they are global. Screensets are on a per project level. I may be wrong but workspaces and lenses are one and the same thing. 

I don't foresee using it.
Now if we could [] Disable multi dock then ok.

Anderton

John
 I may be wrong but workspaces and lenses are one and the same thing. 

Correct. They changed the name because other programs use the term "workspaces" for functionality that's less capable.

haha, which programs? visual studio/tfs uses the term, but that's the only other app i can think of?
 
which other programs use that term? how are their "workspaces" different/less capable?

bitman
Now if we could [] Disable multi dock then ok.

You mean like this?
 

Anderton

pwalpwal

Anderton

John
 I may be wrong but workspaces and lenses are one and the same thing. 

Correct. They changed the name because other programs use the term "workspaces" for functionality that's less capable.

haha, which programs? visual studio/tfs uses the term, but that's the only other app i can think of? 

Think harder, I don't make stuff up. For starters, there's Cubase, Pro Tools, Samplitude, anything by Adobe, etc.
 
Search on a program name + "workspace." Search functions on the interwebz are a beautiful thing for those who need to augment their ability to think.

fair enough, but i don't have any of those apps, hence my question - but why should i have to qualify your statement, surelynthe onus is on you? the interwebz are full of what's now being called "fake news"...

pwalpwal

Anderton

pwalpwal

Anderton

John
 I may be wrong but workspaces and lenses are one and the same thing. 

Correct. They changed the name because other programs use the term "workspaces" for functionality that's less capable.

haha, which programs? visual studio/tfs uses the term, but that's the only other app i can think of? 

Think harder, I don't make stuff up. For starters, there's Cubase, Pro Tools, Samplitude, anything by Adobe, etc.
 
Search on a program name + "workspace." Search functions on the interwebz are a beautiful thing for those who need to augment their ability to think.

fair enough, but i don't have any of those apps, hence my question

It was the "haha" that seemed to provide a context that went beyond being merely inquisitive.
 

- but why should i have to qualify your statement, surelynthe onus is on you? the interwebz are full of what's now being called "fake news"...

 
First, I don't create fake news. Second, I'm a gentleman, and I didn't want to spell out by name programs whose workspaces offer less functionality that what SONAR would offer if it chose that name. But since you asked, and since you believe it's my obligation to justify what I say even though I think it's clear I do research, I responded to your "haha" question even though I would have preferred not to.
 
 

I just updated to 2016.11. Lenses load markedly slower than screensets for me. Slower than I'd like, anyway. Plus, it seems you can't have them as part of the control bar. That's kinda big for me, as I dock the control bar at bottom of my Raven touchscreen and switch plenty when working. I wonder if it's possible to have lenses become a module in the control bar...